No apology, more charges from Simon [GOP hopeful defends allegations to the shock of Davis' camp]

Contra Costa Times ^ | October 10, 2002 | Daniel Borenstein and Andrew LaMar

[RonDog]

As Bill Simon's allegations of illegal fund raising crumbled, the Republican candidate acknowledged late Wednesday that his charges against Gov. Gray Davis were unfounded.

But Simon did not apologize to the governor. He said he had "a good-faith basis" for believing the false accusation he made public Monday.

[HamiltonJay]

Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr Howard...

[bonesmccoy]

About "cajones"... I'm not very impressed with the backbone of some of the Freepers here. At the first sign of negative press, they run for cover. It's like an entire battalion running for the hills when a bunch of kids with pop guns fire. Where's the huevos? Scrambled...apparently.

The press has some leverage, but to publish these incoherent, babbling, negative statements about a guy who is NOT BOUGHT OUT BY Liberal Washington DC money... well, they look like they're liberal lurkers...who want to believe their fantasies about the governor's financial scandals.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Good one!

[hchutch]

A lot of people on both sides of this dispute need a crash course in the history behind the 11th Commandment, IMHO.

See this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/663340/posts

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

nOW EXACTLY HOW WOULD HE VERIFY ?

[bonesmccoy]

Yes, I agree with you. However, it is not possible for me to distinguish the reasons for a person to post here. Are they really a GOP Republican or are they a liberal anarchist or democrat attempting to play a psyop game on Freepers?

I've been around these kinds of boards before in other places. The big fallability of these systems is that you can not vouch for the identity of the individual writing. These anarchists like to use that leverage to create mistrust and trouble.

People who are conservative activists need to stay sharp to the psyop tactics of the socialists.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

I have the feeling you are right!

liberal lurkers

seem to be coming out of the wood work!

Many seem to want our guy to make NO MISTAKES and be totally pure! i.e. Being a businessman, makes him unpure because the other side (the proifessional politicians ) can say he is a capitalists who profits at the expense of people.

Shades of communism!

[ladyinred]

He didn't say that about Gary Con-did-it, now did he?

Excellent point. Or Bill Clinton either, right? My guess would be that Davis had to look up the word, HONOR in the dictionary before uttering the word.

[ladyinred]

I have been thinking the very same thing! Why aren't they reporting where this picture was taken? Why aren't they reporting many things about the most corrupt governor California has ever had?

[My2Cents]

Gary "Wormtongue" South is an evil and vile man, working for an evil and vile man. Instead of nitpicking about where the picture of Davis receiving the COPS check was taken, the media should have hounded Gray Davis from office years ago. But, apparently, the media is as corrupt as Davis.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Oh, we should keep the proven corrupt governor on the ticket but drop the challenger?

Where is the l;ogic in that?

[bonesmccoy]

Not just "shades" of communism, the debate had lines which were purely socialistic commentary coming from Gray Davis.

Since when in our country is it BAD to make money?

[Commie Basher]

FWIW, both Bill Handel of KFI-AM, and the morning crew on KABC-AM are mocking Simon over this. And Bill Handel is "a registered independent who's voted Republican in the last several elections." He's also a Riordan/Bush supporter.

The Simon and Davis supporters will stick to their men. The question is, how will moderate/independent voters react to this. Not well for Simon, I suspect.

[Commie Basher]

I agree with Gay Davis (gag!)- Simon should drop out. He's an embarrasement.

At least Simon is working hard to make the Libertarian's Druid spitter look good by comparison, :-)

[airborne]

Thanks for your post # 5. I love that story!

[Askel5]

Simon to Davis: "Nuts!"

That's exactly what folks here thought Chief Pennington was when he did much the same thing -- and totally wrecked his campaign in the process -- regarding some Breaking News announcement of malfeasance on the part of now-Mayor Nagin.

[Congressman Billybob]

The way to "verify" was the way I said from the beginning. FIND THAT DAMNED PAINTING BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF A KIND. Where the painting was in 1998 (an expensive painting by a name artist -- though I wouldn't have it on a bet) is where the photograph was taken.

Some very able FReepers established at the get-go that the photo was probably genuine. So the location of the painting was the location of the photo. This is investigation 101. I agree with those who say Simon's staff let him down -- and he failed his own prosecutorial experience under Guilliani.

With that said, Simon still can win this race. His poll numbers have just moved up. He needs to go on the attack, and attack, and attack, because Davis is more crooked than a dog's hind leg. And he has to be ready to use the Nathanson Memo as well as Forrester used the Chang Memo. It's nearly a direct match in content, and therefore in effectiveness.

We, meaning the whole nation including California, need a Republican veto in the Governor's chair in California. Simon is the only option to get that. Crying over the split milk of Jones or Riodan will not obtain that result.

Congressman Billybob

Click for "Oedipus and the Democrats"

Click for "Til Death Do Us Part."

Click for "to Restore Trust in America"

[Commie Basher]

Davis strikes me as a lightweight with a powerful machine and a partisan press for backup.

Davis is corrupt and unprincipled, but he doesn't strike me as a lightweight. He's a seasoned politico. And FWIW, I think Davis is a Vietnam combat veteran, unlike softy rich-boy Simon.

By contrast, Riordan was reported to be a self-made millionaire. Both Davis and Riordan have more "gravitas" than Simon, and it shows.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Simon should have let Karl Rove take over the campaign. His people are driving me nuts.

[RonDog]

See also from the OTHER thread:

If California election were today, Simon would probably win: Dick Morris
Mark Larson, Larson Live! | OCcober 10, 2002 | me
Posted on 10/10/2002 8:21 AM Pacific by John Jorsett

Appearing on Mark Larson's Larson Live! radio show (KRLA 870AM Los Angeles, KCBQ 1170AM San Diego and KRLH 590AM in Riverside and San Bernardino) this morning, political strategist Dick Morris was asked about the California governor's race.
Noting that the current polls give Davis 45% to Simon's 35%, Morris said that with numbers like that, if the election were held today then Simon would likely win by a small margin.

Morris said that an incumbent (Davis) must get credibly close to 50% to have a reasonable chance of victory. The reason is that the challenger has less name recognition among undecided voters, who are likely to break to the challenger as they become more familiar with him.
Morris says that, as an experienced campaigner, Davis is well aware of this. Davis is presently calling on Simon to step down after the latest gaffe regarding the illegal fundraising accusations by Simon. Morris said that Davis "being all over Simon" should be regarded as more of a measure of Simon's strength than his weakness.

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I stopped engaging the naysayers. They are quitters, IMHO. Like the Rats and Toricelli.
This race is far from over, indeed, Simon is going to win. Watch... - eureka!

See also this WONDERFUL image from a similarly difficult (but WINNABLE) race in New Jersey:

Who made this Picture? - We're trying to help the Doug Forrester for NJ Senate Campaign !
New Jersey & National Democrat Mob Got Us Goin' dot commie | October 9, 2002 | Just Me
Posted on 10/09/2002 3:36 PM Pacific by MeeknMing

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