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SMOKE - AND FIRED
TheNewYorkPost ^ | 2 October 2002 | DAVID SEIFMAN

Posted on 10/04/2002 12:04:04 AM PDT by SheLion

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:09:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A top Housing Authority official has smoked himself out of an $80,000-a-year job.

After consulting with the mayor's office, Housing chairman Tino Hernandez yesterday ordered the immediate firing of Robert Swinton, the deputy director of the Office of Facility Planning, one of five employees spotted by a Post reporter last week in extended smoking sessions outside the agency's headquarters at 250 Broadway.


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; michaeldobbs; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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To: FreedomPoster
I disagree. Educated people don't smoke

I beg your pardon. Smokers cross all boundaries and a great many educated people smoke. A no-smoking policy set by the owner of a business is fine with me, but it's not government's business and it certainly isn't the business of a bunch of unelected busybodies.

Any day you wanna compare edumacation, let me know.

161 posted on 10/26/2002 3:49:06 PM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: Max McGarrity
Any day you wanna compare edumacation, let me know.

You get em, Max!!!

162 posted on 10/26/2002 4:04:31 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: FreedomPoster
Do you see a rise in smoking among educated Americans?

College students are the fastest-growing group of first-time-smokers according to the CDC.

Is it something you'd encourage your kids to do?

No, but I wouldn't get hysterical if they did.

Why would a business want to encourage/allow on-premises an activity that tends to reduce productivity, increase insurance rates, and drive away good employees?

Lotta unproven assumptions in that one statement, FP. I've owned a business that employed more than 100 people and smokers were by far my best employees. A recent Rand study showed that smokers are not less productive, and that holds true in some businesses like those in Eden Prairie that threatened to move more than 1000 employees out of the city if the council passed a smoking ban that included them. I'd hire only smokers before I'd put up with a whiny bunch of antis.

163 posted on 10/26/2002 4:10:26 PM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: Max McGarrity; FreedomPoster
Eden Prairie backs away from widespread smoking ban

Eden Prairie backs away from widespread smoking ban

2 October 2002

Last month, one of the city's largest employers threatened to relocate many of its 600 jobs if the stringent ban were passed.

The Douglas Corp, a manufacturer of car logo emblems, joined metallic-balloon manufacturer, Anagram International, and other businesses in lining up against the proposal. Douglas officials estimated that one-third of their employees smoke.

164 posted on 10/26/2002 4:18:04 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: cinFLA
I started smoking at 19 and my lungs at 55 are clear! Of course I stopped smoking at 19. Your post means nothing.

Those capable of following the conversation realize that Great Dane's hubby still smokes, and even after all those years of smoking is still healthy. As am I and many other smokers I know. If anyone's post means nothing, it's yours but that's nothing new. Exactly why do you spend time on smoking threads showing your bile and ignorance?

165 posted on 10/26/2002 4:20:40 PM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: Max McGarrity
Exactly why do you spend time on smoking threads showing your bile and ignorance?

Have you noticed, Max, that when "they" have a bad day, they come into our threads and start trashing? It's a problem on THEIR end, I think.

166 posted on 10/26/2002 4:33:11 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: Max McGarrity
Those capable of following the conversation realize that Great Dane's hubby still smokes, and even after all those years of smoking is still healthy. As am I and many other smokers I know. If anyone's post means nothing, it's yours but that's nothing new. Exactly why do you spend time on smoking threads showing your bile and ignorance?

My grandma shot herself in the head with a .44 magnum every year for her birthday to clear her sinuses. Worked great! She lived to 90!

167 posted on 10/26/2002 6:20:59 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: SheLion
Freedom poster is a pain, thats all he is
168 posted on 10/26/2002 6:47:35 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: ezoeni
Freedom poster is a pain, thats all he is.

It's a pity. Most people in Free Republic are great! But then along comes some anti. Just like his name: Freedom Poster. I guess Free is good as long as it's HIS freedom. But when it comes to others freedom to smoke a legal commodity, he is against it.

Thank God it isn't up to him.

169 posted on 10/26/2002 6:54:57 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
"Smokers of one-and-a-half packs of cigarettes a day receive approximately 60 millirads of radiation daily (as much as 60 chest X-rays), which is 21.9 rads per year (as much as 21,900 chest X-rays) or 547.5 rads over a course of 25 years (equivalent to 547,500 chest X-rays). Bear in mind that we are considering the inhaling of smoke from U.S. grown tobacco. Divide that by five and a half for tobacco grown in India."
170 posted on 10/26/2002 7:00:13 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
Divide that by five and a half for tobacco grown in India.

(You don't have any one at home that you can beat on tonight?)

In response to your diatribe on smoking, I am sure you like to eat, right? Ok, then read this:

Cigarettes and cigarette smoke contain a multitude of toxic chemicals, according to anti-smoking zealots. Therefore, the public must be protected from evil smokers who would threaten the health of nonsmoking men, women and children in places like restaurants and bars.

But what exactly are those helpless victims eating and drinking in their smoke-free, toxic-free non-smoking section of the restaurant? You might be surprised. Holding your breath while you eat might protect you from toxic secondhand smoke, but don’t swallow that food!

Everybody likes roast turkey, especially when the whole family is around the table. Hope they like heterocyclic amines, too. Nothing goes better with turkey than some bread stuffing ethyl alcohol, benzo(a)pyrene, ethyl carbamate, furan derivatives, furfural, dihydrazines, d-limonene, psoralens, quercetin glycosides and safrole. Nothing says “Happy Holidays” like cranberry sauce, unless it’s the furan derivatives that go with it.

How about some prime rib of beef with parsley sauce? Use lots of ketchup unless you have a taste for heterocyclic amines and psoralens. How about some broccoli spears? The allyl isothiocyanate ought to kill the taste. Who doesn’t like a nice baked potato? Can’t have too much ethyl alcohol and caffeic acid, I suppose.

Perhaps you prefer a sweet potato instead. You’ll still get your dose of ethyl alcohol, but with a shot of furfural to boot. No meal is complete without rolls and butter. Or the ethyl alcohol, benzo(a)pyrene, ethyl carbamate, furan derivatives and furfural that come with it.

Save room for dessert pumpkin pie is good, even with the benzo(a)pyrene, coumarin and safrole inside. Apple pie is my favorite, though I’d rather not think about the acetaldehyde, caffeic acid, coumarin, estragole, ethyl alcohol, quercetin glycoside and safrole that go with it. Fresh apples, pears, grapes or mangos? They’re always good, even with the acetaldehyde, benzaldehyde, caffeic acid, d-limonene, estragole and quercetin glycosides. Anybody else need a drink after all that?

If you drink enough red wine, you won’t notice the ethyl alcohol and ethyl carbamate. If you drink so much that it’s time for a cup of coffee, the benzo(a)pyrene, benzaldehyde, benzene, benzofuran, caffeic acid, catechol, 1,2,5,6-dibenz(a)anthracene, d-limonene, ethyl benzene, furan, furfural, hydrogen peroxide and hydroquinone might do you some good. Or not. If tea is more to your liking, you might need some sugar to mask the taste of the benzo(a)pyrene and quercetin glycosides.

And for you health-conscious types who prefer only herbal teas, have some symphytine with your comfrey tea. Or some benzyl acetate with your jasmine tea. A cigarette might taste good after all that.

171 posted on 10/26/2002 7:25:13 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Your post is senseless. You apparently are ignorant of the fact that American cigarettes are poisoning you with radiation which causes cancer.
172 posted on 10/26/2002 7:28:10 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
Your post is senseless. You apparently are ignorant of the fact that American cigarettes are poisoning you with radiation which causes cancer.

You read what Max said to you, so I won't repeat it again.

First off, why do you care? Second, why do you think it's any of your business what we spend our money on? And you do realize that cigarettes are legal? Right?

Why are you so mean and nasty. Hiding behind a monitor is the only way you can get your hostilities out? I really feel sorry for you. Maybe when you grow up you will get a real life.

As for my above post on food, you think it's pointless? Well, I had a newspaper print it as an Op-Ed. So, it can't be TOO useless!

173 posted on 10/26/2002 7:32:22 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
Why are you so mean and nasty. Hiding behind a monitor is the only way you can get your hostilities out? I really feel sorry for you. Maybe when you grow up you will get a real life. As for my above post on food, you think it's pointless? Well, I had a newspaper print it as an Op-Ed. So, it can't be TOO useless!

Why are you name-calling. Why do you think it is mean and nasty to post the facts? As for Op-Ed's, newspapers with put just about anything in them that's submitted. It contained NOTHING related to dangers. It contained NOTHING related to my post of the radiation concerns of tobacco. Why are you ignorant of the fact that by going to organic cigarettes you can reduce the cancer hazard?

174 posted on 10/26/2002 7:37:13 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: SheLion
Over here for a laugh.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/776544/posts
175 posted on 10/26/2002 7:38:28 PM PDT by ozone1
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To: cinFLA
Why are you ignorant of the fact that by going to organic cigarettes you can reduce the cancer hazard?

It's my choice my body. And why do you care? Why don't you take up a battle that doesn't infringe on the rights of the American people. Were you even born in America?

You pounce on me and that's supposed to be ok. When I contradict you, then I am name calling. I don't think we are reading the same words here.

176 posted on 10/26/2002 7:40:55 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: ozone1
Coming!
177 posted on 10/26/2002 7:41:16 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
When I contradict you, then I am name calling. I don't think we are reading the same words here.

You are right. We are not reading the same words. Here are your words that I read! Your memory is short.

"Why are you so mean and nasty. Hiding behind a monitor is the only way you can get your hostilities out? I really feel sorry for you. Maybe when you grow up you will get a real life."

178 posted on 10/26/2002 8:58:17 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: SheLion
It's my choice my body. And why do you care? Why don't you take up a battle that doesn't infringe on the rights of the American people. Were you even born in America?

Just keep your filthy habit out of my face and there is no problem. If you don't want comments, don't post on a public board.

179 posted on 10/26/2002 9:00:15 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: SheLion; Max McGarrity
It seems that some of the antis at FR have been reading Georgina Lovell's "You are the Target" this is one of her favorite line - about the chest xrays.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

180 posted on 10/27/2002 8:31:08 AM PST by Gabz
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