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LAS VEGAS! Casino profits could go up in (no) smoke
PressAtlanticCity.com ^ | 24 September 2002 | JOE WEINERT

Posted on 09/24/2002 4:22:36 PM PDT by SheLion

LAS VEGAS - Perhaps the biggest threat to growth in the U.S. casino industry comes not from antigambling interests, but from health-conscious public officials.

A group that sets the country's indoor air-quality standards is under "enormous" pressure to make casinos and other hospitality venues smoke-free, an expert warned attendees at the Global Gaming Expo on Thursday.

"With the collapse of the tobacco industry, (?) the hospitality industry is next to come under attack," said Elia Sterling, president of Theodor Sterling Associates, an indoor air-quality firm based in Vancouver, B.C.

If the American Society of Heating, Refrigeration and Air-Conditioning Engineers, or ASHRAE, were to adopt a zero-tolerance policy for smoke particles, casinos could lose billions in revenue, according to legislative analyst Wayne Mehl of the American Gaming Association.

Forty percent to 50 percent of casino gamblers are smokers, about double the percentage of the U.S. population as a whole, Mehl said. A 1993 gaming-industry study showed that
Nevada casinos alone would have lost $1 billion in revenue if casinos were forced to go smoke-free.

"It's not just the loss of customers, but also the loss of gambling time - 12 percent less time for smokers. They would spend that time going out for a smoke," Mehl said.

Of course the casino industry is concerned about the effects of second-hand smoke on its employees, Mehl said, but Thursday's panel discussion was all about the bottom line.

The industry will get a glimpse of the possible future beginning Nov. 27,
when the three Delaware racetracks become the first casino jurisdiction to go smoke-free as part of a broader state law.

"There's a lot of talk about how much (gaming-tax) revenue the state will lose, and not only that, but jobs, too," said Don Johnson, deputy director of the Delaware State Lottery, which controls the racetrack slot-machine operations.

Delaware officials have been in touch with counterparts in Australia, where every gaming establishment was required to provide a smoke-free gaming area by Sept. 1. Johnson said he was told that the Australian smoking ban caused a sharp decrease in casino revenue initially but that business is beginning to recover.

At issue for U.S. casinos is ASHRAE Standard 62-1999, which governs how casinos, restaurants, bars and lounges filter and dilute their air to control tobacco particles, tobacco odor and body odor.

"It's intended to accommodate smoking in buildings," Sterling said. "This ASHRAE standard is a practical standard and is working well in the field."

For example, he said, the lavish Bellagio casino hotel here "provides better air quality indoors than you'll find outdoors."

Special interests, however, are aggressively pushing for standards so tight they "would effectively ban smoking in the hospitality industry," Sterling said.

ASHRAE (which conveniently rhymes with ashtray) is a 108-year-old non-government trade group of indoor-air specialists whose standards governance has been taken over by public funding and public officials, Sterling said. Today, the group's standards committee is chaired by an official from the Environmental Protection Agency and has only two representatives from the hospitality industry, he said.

"They're in the process of adopting a zero-tolerance approach to tobacco smoke. One molecule of tobacco smoke is unacceptable," Sterling said. "The debate is clearly not about health as it is about social engineering to denormalize smoking."

Matthew Iandoli, a Washington-based lobbyist and lawyer, said the Hospitality Coalition on Indoor Air Quality is trying to pre-empt the proposed new rules by adopting its own guidelines for smoke and ventilation. The group's members include the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union, which represents more than 14,000 Atlantic City casino workers, and the Nevada Resort Association, which represents the gaming industry here.

Iandoli warned that any action, or non-action, by the hospitality industry could expose it to substantial legal damages.

"Trial lawyers are trying to find that avenue, trying to find that chink in the armor where they can pursue those class-action lawsuits," he said. "If the ASHRAE standard goes forward, that will be the point at which the lawyers will try to show that the casino industry has harmed its employees."

From the casinos' point of view, Mehl said, the "ideal" solution to shielding employees and customers from smoke is a combination of effective ventilation and smoke-free areas.

To e-mail Joe Weinert at The Press:

JWeinert@pressofac.com


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; michaeldobbs; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
"I enjoy my cigars too much. If the whackos don't like it, I'd suggest they go to Disney or hug a tree and eat some tofu, or whatever it is those communists enjoy doing."

LOL! I am actually not a full time smoker. I would never smoke in my home or my car, but occasionally, I have one on the patio. My husband and I go to LV at least twice a year, and there is nothing I like more than to smoke, drink, and play slots next to little old ladies and guys smoking cigars (I like the smell). If we can't go to LV and let our hair down like that, we won't bother going.

261 posted on 09/25/2002 4:51:11 PM PDT by Lanza
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To: cinFLA
Times change.

But anti-smokers don't. And I can only call you an anti smoker because you refuse to address the idea of allowing ANY bar or restaurant to permit smoking because you don't like it.

But please remember your own words, Times change.

They will most likely come back and haunt the antis.

Good Day

262 posted on 09/25/2002 4:51:42 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Rye
Try playing something other than the nickle machines.
263 posted on 09/25/2002 4:52:20 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
So how many businesses will the state of Delaware be taking over in November? I know I would close mine and move it.

None, nada, zip, zilch, notta one. The state's got no money and can't see the handwriting on the wall.

264 posted on 09/25/2002 5:11:22 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Lanza
That's why I split my trips. I go to the Carribbean where the only laws are against you hurting others physically. If Vegas goes PC, I have plenty of other casinos to visit in Biloxi and the Carribbean where I don't have to worry about the PC police telling me how to behave.
265 posted on 09/25/2002 5:23:39 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Gabz
Sounds like a mini-Commiefornia.
266 posted on 09/25/2002 5:24:06 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
It's actually worse.

But then, you must consider this is a state that continually re-elects Joe Biden and voted out Bill Roth.

I can't get out of here fast enough.
267 posted on 09/25/2002 5:31:06 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz
I've noticed that since they revised their corporate laws, a lot of companies are removing their names as a "Delaware" corporation and relocating to friendlier states. It's amazing what happens when the socialists take power.
268 posted on 09/25/2002 5:35:40 PM PDT by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: SheLion
Thank you SheLion. I misunderstood.
269 posted on 09/25/2002 5:43:13 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
Thank you SheLion. I misunderstood.

Hey! You bet! I was sticking up for you. I'm sorry if you thought I wasn't. It's been a long day in here with many controversial figures. They have worn me out. LOL!

270 posted on 09/25/2002 5:47:23 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: cinFLA
You, perhaps, should go read a good economics book. Recession is the contraction of business. Even in a recession you can have inflation. You are thinking of deflation.

Wrong, deflation comes after a prolonged recession.

271 posted on 09/25/2002 6:14:00 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Gabz
The only exceptions there are to the Delaware Ban are for organizations running charitable fund raisers.

There are no exceptions for organizations here, result is charities are loosing a lot of money, when the bingo players didn't come back, the City went so far as to install slots, hoping that would do the trick....... it didn't.

272 posted on 09/25/2002 6:18:09 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Waskishi
#273........... Thank you, I needed a good laugh, it's been a long day. :-}
274 posted on 09/25/2002 7:54:41 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Waskishi
Fianally, A place where a sensitive kind of guy or gal can spend a whole week end gambling and eating bean sprouts and tofu

For your information, there are a lot of us steak-lovers that rather NOT have the taste of a good steak fouled by the smell of tobacco smoke. Do you realize you are enjoying food less due to the damage tobacco does to your taste and smell?

275 posted on 09/25/2002 8:28:34 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
Do you realize you are enjoying food less due to the damage tobacco does to your taste and smell?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA
If I enjoyed it any more it would be a crime!
I gues it's a GOOD thing I smoke.

276 posted on 09/25/2002 8:30:19 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: SheLion
"Why don't you find another thread to play in and leave decent people alone."

Oh, I'm finding an adequate level of indecency here -- Thanx anyway . . .

277 posted on 09/25/2002 9:26:35 PM PDT by Crowcreek
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To: Gabz
" You gave no indication this person was smoking in a non permitted location"

I gave the man plenty of indication, sort of all at once -- He'd vouch for that!

Please -- calm yourself

. . . Get some oxygen!

278 posted on 09/25/2002 9:31:38 PM PDT by Crowcreek
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To: Crowcreek
I gave the man plenty of indication, sort of all at once

Was it MARKED as nonsmoking or did you just DECIDE that it was nonsmoking?

279 posted on 09/25/2002 9:42:08 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Just another Joe
"Was it MARKED as nonsmoking or did you just DECIDE that it was nonsmoking?"

Fighting for the rights of smokers to make others miserable isn't very noble, but it must be satisfying.

Have at it, suckers.

280 posted on 09/25/2002 10:02:59 PM PDT by Crowcreek
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