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Boston Mayor Offers Smoking Ban At Work, Bars,Restaurants
Yahoo News ^ | 24 September 2002

Posted on 09/24/2002 3:38:19 PM PDT by SheLion

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To: jdontom
No, there is no compromise. It's a mental illness they suffer from.
21 posted on 09/24/2002 6:11:34 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Argus; SheLion
Is it still legal to smoke in a cigar store?

Under the smoking ban which goes into effect in Delaware in November, even cigar stores will have to be smoke free.

There is a very upscale tobacconist at one of the beach resorts here who created a very comfortable reading room with magazines and chess tables. It's lovely and very popular with the upscale older crowd it attracts, most of whom are cigar and pipe smokers. There are ashtrays on every table and it's very bright with huge picture windows and the owner went a great deal of effort and expense to make it inviting and comfortable for his customers, all of whom truly appreciate it.

On November 27, it will be no more.

22 posted on 09/25/2002 9:13:56 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz
Under the smoking ban which goes into effect in Delaware in November, even cigar stores will have to be smoke free.

Sheer insanity!!

23 posted on 09/25/2002 4:52:44 PM PDT by I'm_With_Orwell
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To: I'm_With_Orwell
Sheer insanity!!

That is a rather mild way of describing the situation..........

24 posted on 09/25/2002 5:24:25 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: SheLion
Until the people of Boston-Massachusetts decide that they have had enough this will continue until you pay $10.00 a pack of smokes as well as only be able to smoke in your house with your windows closed.(So as no second hand smoke may get out.) People of Massachusetts WAKE UP!
25 posted on 10/01/2002 10:00:40 AM PDT by northeastsmokersalliance
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To: Frohickey
Sounds like the bars and restaurants should start closing up and instead turn themselves into private clubs with member patrons.

They have already thought of that. Any place that has employees will be under the orders. That's how they have done it in most places.

In any case, if people don't stand up for their rights on principle, they can forget having rights and just settle for a game of cat and mouse with the armed thugs.

Then, they can refuse service to whoever they feel do not fit the clientele that they want to serve.

It won't work, and if it does, it won't for long. It's almost time.

26 posted on 10/01/2002 10:08:43 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: SheLion
Mayor Thomas Menino should be put in stocks.
27 posted on 10/01/2002 10:09:41 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: WyCoKsRepublican
But as a non smoker, I love being in a smoke free restaurant or bar.

And are willing to use guns to usurp the property rights of other citizens for your own desires.

You aren't for inalienable rights. You aren't even a Republican I'll bet. And I'm not in love with Republicans.

Another wannabe stealth liberal pretending to be a Republican to make them look even worse than they are. Your "right wing zealot" remark gave you away. Go back to DU please.

28 posted on 10/01/2002 10:17:16 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: WyCoKsRepublican
"I am a right wing zealot..." Really...
a dumbocrat right wing zealot is a rare thing..
You're probably under appreciated, at least by me.
29 posted on 10/01/2002 11:31:38 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: northeastsmokersalliance
After much research, I have found three very wonderful documents. One is the Federal Court throwing out the EPA’s study on ETS because it was bias to produce the results that they wanted:

Federal Court Rules Against EPA on Second Hand Smoke

Also, the ORNL Labs, belonging to the Government, put forth their research on second hand smoke. I think any health coalition who tries to dismiss the findings of the U.S. Department of Energy labs at Oak Ridge, should be confronted with the question: "Are you saying that DOE researchers committed scientific fraud and that their findings on ETS exposure are untrue?"

I'd like to see what the anti would say in response to that question.

"Exposures to second-hand smoke lower than believed, ORNL study finds"

and:

ORNL ETS Study

Congressional Research Service report on Environmental Tobacco Smoke and Lung Cancer, Nov. 1995

Especially note page 55, first line, "Finally, it is possible that very few or even no deaths can be attributed to ETS." And page 62, -second paragraph:

"Therefore, had OSHA performed a meta-analysis, it seems likely that it would have found no increased lung cancer risk from occupational ETS exposure."

And "they" think we are so stupid out here. Just burns me up that they are getting away with this.

30 posted on 10/01/2002 4:14:02 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: ThomasJefferson
It won't work, and if it does, it won't for long. It's almost time.

Bar and restaurant owners think it won't happen to them. Then, when they find out that it CAN happen to them, it's too late.

So many restaurants have been hurt bad by smoking bans. Check out:

Smoking Bans Bad For Business

31 posted on 10/01/2002 4:20:37 PM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
I thought Liberals always told us that what we do with our private lives is none of the governments business..
32 posted on 10/01/2002 4:41:12 PM PDT by Havoc
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To: Havoc
I thought Liberals always told us that what we do with our private lives is none of the governments business..

Unfortunately, we have RINO’S at work as well. They have been easily swayed…….and are going along with the anti’s.

33 posted on 10/01/2002 4:50:06 PM PDT by SheLion
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