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Bill Aims to Ban Workplace Smoking
Newsday | 9/17/02 | J. Palmer

Posted on 09/17/2002 6:15:39 AM PDT by sushiman

For almost 20 years, Suffolk County has been slowly eroding people's rights to smoke in public. With one more measure, the butts could stop here.

A group of bipartisan lawmakers today is expected to unveil a bill that bans smoking in virtually all workplaces - including bingo halls, bowling alleys, bars and restaurants. This effort is the product of talks with officials in Nassau, Westchester and New York City to provide a regional standard for workplace smoking.

The Suffolk bill would allow smoking only in private homes and in private enclosed offices occupied exclusively by smokers. Smoking also would be permitted in outdoor seating at bars and restaurants. State and federal property are exempt from the county's jurisdiction.

In Suffolk now, smoking is limited to separate rooms in all restaurants. It is also banned within 50 feet of hospitals or public buildings and restricted in workplaces.

Brian Foley, a Democratic legislator from Blue Point, said the proposed ban is essential to protect public health and is also a workplace safety issue.

"Second-hand smoke kills tens of thousands of Americans each year and injures the health of tens of thousands more as well," said Foley, who chairs the health committee and is co-sponsoring the bill with fellow Democrat Ginny Fields of Oakdale and Presiding Officer Paul Tonna, a Republican from West Hills. "This reso- lution is going to save lives here in Suffolk County."

Foley said the proposed ban will be discussed in the next health committee meeting Oct. 2. A public hearing before the full legislature will be held Oct. 8.

In Nassau, similar legislation will be considered by the legislature at its Oct. 7 meeting, said Deputy Presiding Officer Roger Corbin (D-Westbury). Corbin, the legislature's health committee chair, said the bill he's introducing is similar to Foley's. He said legislation being considered in Westchester and New York City will be in step with those proposed on Long Island, but is moving slightly slower.

Since talks among policymakers in the downstate region became public last month, the concept of a complete ban has run into stiff opposition from restaurant and bar owners who say businesses will go belly up as customers opt to stay home to smoke in peace.

John Reyerson, owner of McGuire's Restaurant and Comedy Club in Bohemia, said he expects to lose about a third of his business if the legislation is approved. He said a complete ban would be too onerous because about four years ago the county required restaurants and bars to install separate ventilation systems and partitions to segregate smoking and nonsmoking areas.

"There is no way I'm going to recoup my investment," said Reyerson, who is also chairman of the board of directors for the Suffolk Restaurant and Tavern Association. "They are not going to come here and have a beer and watch a football game if they can't have a smoke. Why would they?"

Suffolk Legis. Fred Towle (R-Shirley) said the ban is too intrusive and takes away people's ability to make decisions. "There comes a point when government has gone too far," he said.


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To: robertpaulsen
Or is he just making this up to justify his position?

He read something that someone else made up. Junk science.

21 posted on 09/17/2002 7:06:02 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ohioman
If I am ever around you, I will make sure to light one up.

I don't even smoke and I would happily blow it in the face of anyone who advocated usurping the rights of property owners.

22 posted on 09/17/2002 7:07:32 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: metesky
LOL!!!!!!
23 posted on 09/17/2002 7:08:37 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Centurion2000
Your car exhaust is a lot more deadly than my cigarette smoke.

His advocation of armed thugs usurping the rights of citizens is more deadly than all the other factors combined. Sadly, someday it will probably lead to the death of millions of citizens, as it has in the past. War is bad for your health.

24 posted on 09/17/2002 7:10:23 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
I don't even smoke and I would happily blow it in the face of anyone who advocated usurping the rights of property owners.

Exactly - and that is the point of this issue - private property rights - it really has very little, if anything with health or even smoking.

25 posted on 09/17/2002 7:10:58 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Illbay
Smoking is optional, breathing is not.

If you can't stand the smoke; get out of the breathing business.

26 posted on 09/17/2002 7:14:17 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Gabz
it really has very little, if anything with health or even smoking.

Precisely. Just as the WOD question really isn't about drugs. They keep trying to convince people that it is.

These folks have the same position as Hillary. I wonder if they will vote for her.

27 posted on 09/17/2002 7:15:08 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Gabz; *puff_list
Brian.Foley@co.suffolk.ny.us
28 posted on 09/17/2002 7:15:09 AM PDT by metesky
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To: Illbay
You are the Selfish one. Most of us respect the rights of others to do and say as they please so long as they don't harm others.

In your case you buy into the fiction that you hurt others when you smoke, are willing to saddle the risk taking businessman with new laws that limit his own business, and you say I am selfish?

Here in Texas we are asking resturants to identify wether they are "smoking" or "non-smoking" then let the people decide for themselves, and permitting the businessman who takes all the risks to manage his own business.

But not YOU. Oh no, you have to decide for everyone, don't you?

You are hopelessly lost, freind. Fogot you were an "American". You don't really belong in this country if you don't believe in tolerance of others and their rights.

Can't stand the smoke? Get out of the area where it is. We smokers never banned non-smokers from public places, but you are willing to try to ban us from places. YOU aere the creep, not us.
29 posted on 09/17/2002 7:17:27 AM PDT by RISU
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To: Illbay
But YOU can decide on your own to foul the air and make it d*mned inconventient for others to breathe.

Nonsmokers are entitled to smokefree air.

Then smokers are entitled to smokey air; freedom and justice for all/men are created equal.

30 posted on 09/17/2002 7:17:58 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
If you can't stand the smoke; get out of the breathing businesses that allow it on their private property.

There, I fixed it.

31 posted on 09/17/2002 7:18:50 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: Mulder
That's their Right, and I oppose any effort to infringe upon it.

THANK you!!!!

32 posted on 09/17/2002 7:19:17 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: sushiman
"Second-hand smoke kills tens of thousands of Americans each year and injures the health of tens of thousands more as well," said Foley,

What a crock! Oh, wait a DemoncRAT said it...never mind...consider the source.

33 posted on 09/17/2002 7:20:29 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: metesky
"Second-hand smoke kills tens of thousands of Americans each year and injures the health of tens of thousands more as well," said Foley

Yea, well Save Lives, not Big Tobacco!

WITHOUT Big Tobacco, millions of antis lives wouldn't be worth a plug nickel; Big Tobacco is where their money comes from to continue this BS against smokers!

34 posted on 09/17/2002 7:21:16 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: ThomasJefferson
If you can't stand the smoke; get out of the breathing businesses that allow it on their private property. There, I fixed it.

Exactly!

35 posted on 09/17/2002 7:23:04 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Mr. Bird
What I envision is a bar/restaurant suddenly becoming a members-only establishment. For a nominal fee ($5 a year?),

A restaurant in Fort Wayne, IN charges $1.00 for a lifetime membership in their "club" and gives a $1.00 discount on the first cup of coffee.

36 posted on 09/17/2002 7:30:21 AM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: sushiman
People who smoke are uniformly dumb and often inconsiderate, but that is no reason to usurp the property rights of private businesses.
37 posted on 09/17/2002 7:30:30 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: ThomasJefferson
These folks have the same position as Hillary. I wonder if they will vote for her.

They probably all did - which is why she is where she is and this bunch of clowns thinkks they can ignore the rights of business and private roperty owners with impunity.

38 posted on 09/17/2002 7:33:50 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Illbay
It's very simple--or should be: whoever owns the business makes the rules, NOT the Government.
39 posted on 09/17/2002 7:36:11 AM PDT by Musket
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To: RISU
We smokers never banned non-smokers from public places, but you are willing to try to ban us from places.

I can tolerate the no-smoking in public places - it's the forced no-smoking in private businesses where I have a problem.

40 posted on 09/17/2002 7:36:28 AM PDT by Gabz
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