[SheLion]

Federal Court Rules Against EPA on Secondhand Smoke

I think any anti who tries to dismiss the findings of the U.S. Department of Energy labs at Oak Ridge, should be confronted with the question: "Are you saying that DOE researchers committed scientific fraud and that their findings on ETS exposure are untrue?" I'd like to see what any anti would say in response to that question.

Environmental Tobacco Smoke Study

One man said: "Same with NYC. It used to be home to the majority of Fortune 500 company corporate headquarters. Not anymore. The anti-business policies and exorbitant taxes have been pushing them away for years."

[SheLion]

One gal said:

I like the quote...
"Some hotels are already smoke-free. Some are half and half. The beauty of the free market is that they are catering to their customers," Day said. "They don't need to be told what to do by the City Council."

[Drango]

How stupid are smokers when it comes to business and money? From Yahoo...

In 1970, Bob and Jim each smoke 3 packs of Marlboros a day. Jim decides to quit and instead invest his cigarette money in Philip Morris stock, and never sell. Bob keeps smoking. By 2001, how much more money does Jim have than Bob?
How respondents have answered:
163079 votes to date

$45,000	5%	9474 votes
$145,000	12%	20248 votes
$245,000	18%	29584 votes
$400,000	20%	34210 votes
$600,000	42%	69563 votes

The correct answer is:
$400,000

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It turns out that even a simple habit like cigarettes

may be more costly than you think.

Three packs of Marlboros a day, 365 days a year, comes to nearly $4,000 a year, in today's dollars. Even adjusting for the fact that cigarettes were much cheaper in 1970 than they are today, it looks like Bob would have spent nearly $45,000 (in today's dollars) over that period. Jim, by contrast, benefits from dollar-cost averaging and a substantial rise in Philip Morris stock over the period. With dividends reinvested, Jim's portfolio contains over 8,700 shares and is worth just shy of $400,000. Bob, at that point, has only some fond memories of a habit he enjoyed...

[Just another Joe]

It's coming, She. Just keep your guns handy.

[carpio]

Book Marking

[Still Thinking]

It's a known health hazard. How in good conscience do you not protect citizens from it?

By not programming your collectivist, socialist "conscience" that it is somehow your job to tell your employers how to live their lives.

[zoyd]

"It takes guts to deal with this issue," Tyra-Lukens said. "It's a known health hazard. How in good conscience do you not protect citizens from it?"

Oh yeah, you have 75% of the populace IN FAVOR of banning smoking, and now that somehow becomes some friggin' cross to bear if you're a politician?

HA!

One more upcoming nail in the coffin for private business owners.

[KS Flyover]

Check this out.

Web posted Monday, June 17, 2002

Eden Prairie smoking ban debate heats up

EDEN PRAIRIE (AP) -- The lung cancer death of Mayor Jean Harris and her unfulfilled last wish for a smoking ban in workplaces, including restaurants, are providing the impetus for an emotional campaign in this growing Twin Cities suburb.

If a proposed ordinance is passed, Eden Prairie would join three cities and one county in the state with such a ban, and it would be the first in the metropolitan area.

As with earlier debates about indoor smoking in Minnesota and across the country, the city is confronting issues that go beyond the long-recognized health risks of secondhand smoke.

"It's easy to be anti-smoking," said City Council member Sherry Butcher. "But the questions are bigger than that."

The intensity of the debate was clear at a forum the city council held last Tuesday. For 3 1/2 hours, about 100 people heard citizens talk about personal choice, competition, fairness, regulation and how far the government should go to protect the citizens' health. In all, 38 people spoke in favor of the ban, 19 opposed it.

The five-member council and Mayor Nancy Tyra-Lukens have not decided how they will proceed. Supporters and opponents expect any vote would be close.

Harris, who never smoked, had blamed her cancer on other people's smoke.

Before she died, she was interviewed for a video in which she described the years that she spent as a public-health physician in Virginia in smoke-filled board rooms and offices. It was shown to the City Council after her death.

"She used to say, 'I've never smoked -- but then I have, too, because of exposure to secondhand smoke,"' said her husband, Les Ellis.

Smoking-ban supporters have $200,000 to spend on campaigns in Eden Prairie and other Hennepin County communities thanks to a grant to the American Cancer Society from the Minnesota Partnership for Action Against Tobacco, a nonprofit group established with funds from the state's tobacco lawsuit settlement.

http://www.brainerddispatch.com/stories/061702/sne_0617020073.shtml

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Nancy Tyra-Lukens
14695 Queens Trail
Eden Prairie, MN 55347
Home Phone: (952) 937-1898
Email: ntyra-lukens@edenprairie.org
Term Expires: 12-31-02

[backhoe]

Like other smoking-ban campaigns across the state, the Eden Prairie effort has received financial support from the Minnesota Partnership for Action Against Tobacco (MPAAT), a nonprofit group established with part of the money gained from the 1998 settlement of the state's lawsuit against the tobacco industry. MPAAT made a $200,000 grant to the American Cancer Society to help smoking-ban supporters in Hennepin County.

Using this:www.guidestar.org

Reveals:

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MINNESOTA PARTNERSHIP FOR ACTION AGAINST TOBACCO ST PAUL, MN 55103 MINNESOTA PARTNERSHIP FOR ACTION AGAINST TOBACCO (MPAAT) IS AN INDEPENDENT, NON-PROFIT FOUNDATION DEDICATED TO REDUCING THE HARM THAT TOBACCO CAUSES MINNESOTANS. CREATED IN SEPTEMBER 1998, MPAAT WILL SERVE MINNESOTA FOR 25 YEARS THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF GRANTS AND BY CONDUCTING OTHER APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS FOR HEALTH, COMMUNITY, AND ACADEMIC ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE IN SUPPORT OF RESEARCH AND CESSATION ACTIVITIES THAT WILL ENCOURAGE AND HELP TOBACCO USERS QUIT.