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Immigration Isn't An Issue Says Congressional GOP
Sierra Times ^ | August 22,2002 | Sieera Times

Posted on 08/24/2002 7:56:02 PM PDT by sweetliberty

"The National Republican Congressional Committee has been advising its candidates NOT to mention border security and immigration issues in their speeches or campaign literature," stated Janine Hansen Independent American candidate for Congress Dist. 2 in Nevada. "The shyness of the Republican Party and the Bush Administration about immigration explains why they manifest a deafening silence about Rep. George Gekas’s (R-PA) bill (H.R. 5013) called Securing America’s Future through Enforcement Reform (SAFER)," stated Janine Hansen.

"As an Independent American I support Rep. George Gekas’s bill. Represenative Gekas is the Chairman of the Immigration Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee. He will start hearings on his bill next month. This legislation is completely in accord with public opinion polls showing that the big majority of the American people want government to reduce the number of legal immigrants, to stop the irresponsible issuance of visas, to deport illegal aliens, and to use U.S. troops to guard our borders," stated Hansen.

Hansen also stated that House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO) announced a Democratic Party plan to introduce legislation to grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Nothing is more unpopular with the voters than amnesty (which Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) called "sheer lunacy"). She accused both Republicans and Democrats of being out of touch with the grass roots on the immigration issues

"America’s doors have always been open to legal immigrants. Had our immigration laws simply been enforced the tragedy of 9/11 may have been avoided. We cannot afford to pretend that immigration is not an issue. We must secure our boarders and protect the American people whether it is politically correct or not," stated Janine Hansen.

Title I of Rep. Gekas’s Immigration bil called Securing the Border, would increase the number of INS investigators and enforcement personnel, lengthen criminal sentences for alien smuggling, beef up the Border Patrol, and use U.S. military troops until the Border Patrol reaches full strength. It would stop granting visas in countries that refuse to cooperate in combating alien smuggling.

Title II, called Screening Aliens Seeking Admission, would tighten up the visa program in order to reduce the risk of aliens using fraudulent passports, require in-person interviews before issuing all visas, and bar any alien who is a member of a terrorist group or supports terrorism. Most people don't understand why this isn't already the law.

Title III, called Tracking Aliens Present in the United States, would establish a comprehensive entry-exit control system with registration and fingerprinting (which INS has promised for years but never implemented). At least 40 percent of illegal aliens (including several 9/11 terrorists) are visa overstayers.

Title IV, called Removing Alien Terrorists, Criminals, and Human Rights Violators , would authorize INS to deport any alien who was inadmissible in the first place or who we have grounds to believe may be a terrorist. This title would reverse several court decisions that accord unreasonable "rights" to terrorists claiming asylum, and would prevent the courts from releasing criminal aliens into the community.

Title V, called Enhancing Enforcement of the Immigration and Nationality Act in the Interior , would protect Social Security cards against counterfeiting and fraudulent use. This title would increase the number of INS investigators, as repeatedly requested by INS, and double the number of INS detention beds.

Title VI would eliminate excessive review and dilatory and abusive tactics by aliens in deportation proceedings. It would also exclude aliens who knowingly make a false asylum application.

Title VII would clean up the problem of voting by illegal aliens. It would require verification of citizenship for voters and applicants.

Title VIII, called Reforming Legal Immigration, would repeal the infamous Diversity Immigrant Program which admits 50,000 immigrants a year, mostly from the Third World including countries that sponsor terrorism, and which helped the Fourth of July LAX murderer win U.S. residency. It would reform the abuses in the refugee program and in the extended-family visa program, and reduce the number of legal immigrants by 20 percent. This would still leave immigration nearly double the traditional level. INS is unable to cope with its current backlog of five million applications.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; gop; illegals; immigration; security
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To: RLK
To think and write like a functioning adult is dismissed as pedantic BS by you and others around here.

There you go again. You just can't stop talking down to people.

141 posted on 08/25/2002 11:38:48 PM PDT by Consort
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To: upchuck
Well Upchuck, if you really want to get sick, Fairfax County, Virginia spent 1 billion dollars on illegals in 1995 to provide them with apartments with carpet and most came from dirt floors and they bend over backwards to give them whatever they want. Even in my County of Prince William I am seeing Mexican stores goe up everywhere. Illegals are all over the State of Virginia and I can tell you that the people in my office are pretty sick and tired of them.
142 posted on 08/25/2002 11:52:22 PM PDT by pattycake
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To: Jimer
See baby see. The cat is brown. The dog runs.

Are we conforming to your level yet?

143 posted on 08/25/2002 11:53:19 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
See baby see. The cat is brown. The dog runs.
Are we conforming to your level yet?

It took a while, but you made my point.

144 posted on 08/26/2002 12:00:25 AM PDT by Consort
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To: RLK
I should have suspected that you were a McCainiac.

I am not going to use the invectives and insults against McCain that you use against Bush, out of respect for his military sevice.

However, I will say that electing him as president would have been a serious mistake. I do not believe he is stable. I do not agree with him on some major issues. I did not appreciate some of his campaign tactics, and I do not want him as leader of the U.S.A. and by extention, the free world.

145 posted on 08/26/2002 12:03:38 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: Jimer
There you go again. You just can't stop talking down to people.

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If you want to engage in dialogue with the developed adult world you are going to find you will be required to develop a reasonable vocabulary, a reasonable continuity of thought, a capacity to understand complex sentence structure, and some facility with concept formation. You would do well not to attribute your deficiencies in these areas as problems with other people who do not share these deficiencies.

I know the demands for developed adult thought have become intolerably unfasionable in the last 35 years, but to engage in realistic analysis those demands are a necessity. Unfortunately, realistic analysis is also out of fashion.

146 posted on 08/26/2002 12:11:30 AM PDT by RLK
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To: Reagan Man
On this one we part ways. The Republicans are cowards on this issue and are about as conservative on this issue as Bill Clinton.
147 posted on 08/26/2002 12:14:58 AM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: wirestripper
I have no use or respect for McCain. I never have. Where did you get the idea I am a McCain supporter? Is your therapist sending you here as part of a misguided program to integrate the mentally handicapped into society?
148 posted on 08/26/2002 12:15:38 AM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
If you want to engage in dialogue with the developed adult world you are going to find you will be required to develop a reasonable vocabulary, a reasonable continuity of thought, a capacity to understand complex sentence structure, and some facility with concept formation. You would do well not to attribute your deficiencies in these areas as problems with other people who do not share these deficiencies. I know the demands for developed adult thought have become intolerably unfasionable in the last 35 years, but to engage in realistic analysis those demands are a necessity. Unfortunately, realistic analysis is also out of fashion

WHATEVER!

149 posted on 08/26/2002 12:17:37 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: RLK
Is your therapist sending you here as part of a misguided program to integrate the mentally handicapped into society?

Yah,,,,, actually!......She said I should talk to you nice and not insult you!:-)

150 posted on 08/26/2002 12:22:01 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: RLK
If you want to engage in dialogue with the developed adult world you are going to find you will be required to develop a reasonable vocabulary, a reasonable continuity of thought, a capacity to understand complex sentence structure, and some facility with concept formation. You would do well not to attribute your deficiencies in these areas as problems with other people who do not share these deficiencies.
Wrong. A person need not be an erudite scholar to be able to tell when someone is full of it, or have an extensive lexicon to be able to tell him he's full of it.
I know the demands for developed adult thought have become intolerably unfasionable in the last 35 years, but to engage in realistic analysis those demands are a necessity. Unfortunately, realistic analysis is also out of fashion.
That's nice change of topic and I'm glad that you're impressed with yourself.
151 posted on 08/26/2002 12:31:57 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Jimer
Here's some more "pedantic BS" that you will probably find difficult to read and even more difficult to understand. Like most writings of worth, the entire document can't be reduced to a ".... For Dummies" version, so it's pretty much gone out of fashion in the USA as folks have become more and more incapable of precise thought and articulate diction:

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed."
--- Thomas Jefferson, July 4, 1776

152 posted on 08/26/2002 5:19:15 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: RLK
This is a pen. I am a boy. My sister is younger than my mother. Is your father older than your brother? Foreign rice is not delicious.

The general level of "lowest common denominator" rhetoric and dialogue is reminding me more and more of English conversation patterns as practiced in Japan. They make no sense, have no relevance to anything, and display only the most elementary ability to follow simplistic, fixed methods that mostly involve dialogue practice, which amounts to plain behaviorism. A lot of posts and opinions here do not reflect any actual thought or reflection, but instead are just reflex retorts involving predigested material selected for its "sound byte" value.

153 posted on 08/26/2002 5:43:21 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: sweetliberty
Looks like both sides have an active plan to ignore citizens.

Ah, but look at all the new non-citizen voters they will get!

154 posted on 08/26/2002 8:45:02 AM PDT by Budge
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To: Amerigomag; VA Advogado
I would willingly trade some of our lazy citizens for some hard working immigrants

The problem however is not the "hard working immigrant" it's the family and especially the children of the hard working immigrant who are overwhelming our infrastructure.

Actually immigrants, in the old sense of the word, were people like my grandparents...on both sides. They came to America to become AMERICANS, proud of their heritage of course, but wanting to be American first.

The problem today is illegal aliens who want to make America into a mini-nation of their origional society, IOW to change America into the third-world nation they left.

This ain't good, but it is happening every day.

155 posted on 08/26/2002 9:28:23 AM PDT by Budge
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To: pattycake
"Even in my County of Prince William I am seeing Mexican stores goe up everywhere. Illegals are all over the State of Virginia and I can tell you that the people in my office are pretty sick and tired of them."

Having grown up in rural Virginia believing that Mexicans were people who lived in Mexico and not knowing what a taco was till my first trip to Colorado at age 16, it is hard for me to imagine this happening there. But then, I could say the same for all the the southern states, particularly the rural areas, but for Texas and Florida and here in Arkansas we have the most rapidly growing population of illegals in the country. We had better deal with this issue fast and firmly, or one morning we will all wake up to a homeland that is virtually unrecognizable.

156 posted on 08/26/2002 9:29:48 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: willyone
And why do you have such a low opinion of your fellow Americans. Looking in the mirror and projecting?

Have you ever considered that VA is an illegal immigrant himself. He goes out of his way to defend illegals.

157 posted on 08/26/2002 9:39:53 AM PDT by gunshy
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Here's some more "pedantic BS" that you will probably find difficult to read and even more difficult to understand. Like most writings of worth, the entire document can't be reduced to a ".... For Dummies" version, so it's pretty much gone out of fashion in the USA as folks have become more and more incapable of precise thought and articulate diction:
It is admirable to study and respect the past, but it's not healthy to live in the past. Any quote or concept, no matter how profound, is pedantic if it is not understood in the intended context. The "....For Dummies" version is the vernacular of the day and may be the only way of keeping the concepts of the past alive in daily discourse.
The quote, loosely interpreted, says changing "City Hall" should not be taken lightly or done in haste; and that people in general will endure the status quo rather than fight city hall, but when city hall exceeds its due powers, then it can and should be replaced.
158 posted on 08/26/2002 9:42:44 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Jimer
Why is it, then, that you are seemingly unable to understand the blurb you wanted translated? I see no purpose in inferring that you are unable to read at a high school level.
159 posted on 08/26/2002 11:40:42 AM PDT by Mortimer Snavely
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To: Mortimer Snavely
Why is it, then, that you are seemingly unable to understand the blurb you wanted translated?

Although I understood his comment both the way he posted it and the correction to it that you posted, it was, as I pointed out, irrevelant to my stated ideas on the subject and I wanted clarification. Did you or RLK (or me) really think that I didn't understand it?

160 posted on 08/26/2002 12:25:08 PM PDT by Consort
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