Immigration Isn't An Issue Says Congressional GOP

Sierra Times ^ | August 22,2002 | Sieera Times

[Consort]

To think and write like a functioning adult is dismissed as pedantic BS by you and others around here.

There you go again. You just can't stop talking down to people.

[pattycake]

Well Upchuck, if you really want to get sick, Fairfax County, Virginia spent 1 billion dollars on illegals in 1995 to provide them with apartments with carpet and most came from dirt floors and they bend over backwards to give them whatever they want. Even in my County of Prince William I am seeing Mexican stores goe up everywhere. Illegals are all over the State of Virginia and I can tell you that the people in my office are pretty sick and tired of them.

[RLK]

See baby see. The cat is brown. The dog runs.

Are we conforming to your level yet?

[Consort]

See baby see. The cat is brown. The dog runs.
Are we conforming to your level yet?

It took a while, but you made my point.

[Cold Heat]

I should have suspected that you were a McCainiac.

I am not going to use the invectives and insults against McCain that you use against Bush, out of respect for his military sevice.

However, I will say that electing him as president would have been a serious mistake. I do not believe he is stable. I do not agree with him on some major issues. I did not appreciate some of his campaign tactics, and I do not want him as leader of the U.S.A. and by extention, the free world.

[RLK]

There you go again. You just can't stop talking down to people.

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If you want to engage in dialogue with the developed adult world you are going to find you will be required to develop a reasonable vocabulary, a reasonable continuity of thought, a capacity to understand complex sentence structure, and some facility with concept formation. You would do well not to attribute your deficiencies in these areas as problems with other people who do not share these deficiencies.

I know the demands for developed adult thought have become intolerably unfasionable in the last 35 years, but to engage in realistic analysis those demands are a necessity. Unfortunately, realistic analysis is also out of fashion.

[A CA Guy]

On this one we part ways. The Republicans are cowards on this issue and are about as conservative on this issue as Bill Clinton.

[RLK]

I have no use or respect for McCain. I never have. Where did you get the idea I am a McCain supporter? Is your therapist sending you here as part of a misguided program to integrate the mentally handicapped into society?

[Cold Heat]

If you want to engage in dialogue with the developed adult world you are going to find you will be required to develop a reasonable vocabulary, a reasonable continuity of thought, a capacity to understand complex sentence structure, and some facility with concept formation. You would do well not to attribute your deficiencies in these areas as problems with other people who do not share these deficiencies. I know the demands for developed adult thought have become intolerably unfasionable in the last 35 years, but to engage in realistic analysis those demands are a necessity. Unfortunately, realistic analysis is also out of fashion

WHATEVER!

[Cold Heat]

Is your therapist sending you here as part of a misguided program to integrate the mentally handicapped into society?

Yah,,,,, actually!......She said I should talk to you nice and not insult you!:-)

[Consort]

If you want to engage in dialogue with the developed adult world you are going to find you will be required to develop a reasonable vocabulary, a reasonable continuity of thought, a capacity to understand complex sentence structure, and some facility with concept formation. You would do well not to attribute your deficiencies in these areas as problems with other people who do not share these deficiencies.

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Wrong. A person need not be an erudite scholar to be able to tell when someone is full of it, or have an extensive lexicon to be able to tell him he's full of it.

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I know the demands for developed adult thought have become intolerably unfasionable in the last 35 years, but to engage in realistic analysis those demands are a necessity. Unfortunately, realistic analysis is also out of fashion.

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That's nice change of topic and I'm glad that you're impressed with yourself.

[Mortimer Snavely]

Here's some more "pedantic BS" that you will probably find difficult to read and even more difficult to understand. Like most writings of worth, the entire document can't be reduced to a ".... For Dummies" version, so it's pretty much gone out of fashion in the USA as folks have become more and more incapable of precise thought and articulate diction:

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed."
--- Thomas Jefferson, July 4, 1776

[Mortimer Snavely]

This is a pen. I am a boy. My sister is younger than my mother. Is your father older than your brother? Foreign rice is not delicious.

The general level of "lowest common denominator" rhetoric and dialogue is reminding me more and more of English conversation patterns as practiced in Japan. They make no sense, have no relevance to anything, and display only the most elementary ability to follow simplistic, fixed methods that mostly involve dialogue practice, which amounts to plain behaviorism. A lot of posts and opinions here do not reflect any actual thought or reflection, but instead are just reflex retorts involving predigested material selected for its "sound byte" value.

[Budge]

Looks like both sides have an active plan to ignore citizens.

Ah, but look at all the new non-citizen voters they will get!

[Budge]

I would willingly trade some of our lazy citizens for some hard working immigrants

The problem however is not the "hard working immigrant" it's the family and especially the children of the hard working immigrant who are overwhelming our infrastructure.

Actually immigrants, in the old sense of the word, were people like my grandparents...on both sides. They came to America to become AMERICANS, proud of their heritage of course, but wanting to be American first.

The problem today is illegal aliens who want to make America into a mini-nation of their origional society, IOW to change America into the third-world nation they left.

This ain't good, but it is happening every day.

[sweetliberty]

"Even in my County of Prince William I am seeing Mexican stores goe up everywhere. Illegals are all over the State of Virginia and I can tell you that the people in my office are pretty sick and tired of them."

Having grown up in rural Virginia believing that Mexicans were people who lived in Mexico and not knowing what a taco was till my first trip to Colorado at age 16, it is hard for me to imagine this happening there. But then, I could say the same for all the the southern states, particularly the rural areas, but for Texas and Florida and here in Arkansas we have the most rapidly growing population of illegals in the country. We had better deal with this issue fast and firmly, or one morning we will all wake up to a homeland that is virtually unrecognizable.

[gunshy]

And why do you have such a low opinion of your fellow Americans. Looking in the mirror and projecting?

Have you ever considered that VA is an illegal immigrant himself. He goes out of his way to defend illegals.

[Consort]

Here's some more "pedantic BS" that you will probably find difficult to read and even more difficult to understand. Like most writings of worth, the entire document can't be reduced to a ".... For Dummies" version, so it's pretty much gone out of fashion in the USA as folks have become more and more incapable of precise thought and articulate diction:

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It is admirable to study and respect the past, but it's not healthy to live in the past. Any quote or concept, no matter how profound, is pedantic if it is not understood in the intended context. The "....For Dummies" version is the vernacular of the day and may be the only way of keeping the concepts of the past alive in daily discourse.

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The quote, loosely interpreted, says changing "City Hall" should not be taken lightly or done in haste; and that people in general will endure the status quo rather than fight city hall, but when city hall exceeds its due powers, then it can and should be replaced.

[Mortimer Snavely]

Why is it, then, that you are seemingly unable to understand the blurb you wanted translated? I see no purpose in inferring that you are unable to read at a high school level.

[Consort]

Why is it, then, that you are seemingly unable to understand the blurb you wanted translated?

Although I understood his comment both the way he posted it and the correction to it that you posted, it was, as I pointed out, irrevelant to my stated ideas on the subject and I wanted clarification. Did you or RLK (or me) really think that I didn't understand it?