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Van Dough: Why cigarette smugglers love New York.
Reason Online ^ | 7/5/02 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 07/05/2002 8:06:56 AM PDT by Jean S

In Elizabethan England, the historian Egon Corti reports, tobacco sold for its weight in silver. That would suit New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg just fine.

Bloomberg recently signed a bill raising the city's cigarette tax from 8 cents to $1.50 a pack. With a state tax of $1.50, the highest in the country, New Yorkers were already paying more for cigarettes than other Americans. Now the price of some brands is more than $7, nearly twice the national average.

Ostensibly, the tax hike was a revenue measure. "City officials say the new tax will bring a much-needed $111 million into the city's coffers this year," The New York Times reported, "helping plug a budget shortfall of nearly $5 billion."

But Bloomberg said it was really all about public health. "This may be the most important measure my administration takes to save people's lives," he declared, arguing that higher cigarette prices will encourage smokers to quit, giving them extra years in which to thank him for the favor he is doing them.

In fact, the mayor doesn't even want the money. "If it were totally up to me," he said, "I would raise the cigarette tax so high the revenues from it would go to zero."

Bloomberg thus announced the purity of his own motives even as he took his cut from a business the anti-smoking movement depicts as inherently evil, profiting from the deadly folly of its customers. When a New Yorker buys a pack of Marlboros, the city will make four or five times as much as Philip Morris does. But that's OK, because the mayor's heart is in the right place.

For politicians confronting budget deficits, the opportunity to raise money at the expense of an unpopular minority while expressing sympathy for the people they're fleecing is hard to resist. So far this year 10 states have raised their cigarette taxes, and several others are considering it. The levies in New Jersey and Massachusetts may soon match or exceed New York's.

But this competition to pick smokers' pockets--I mean, to save smokers' lives--does have limits. Although Bloomberg seems to think that a high enough tax would eliminate smoking, in the real world smokers have alternatives.

Rather than pay $7.25 for a pack of Camels, for instance, they can buy them online for $2.70. Or they can buy them untaxed in New York, courtesy of smugglers who already make a nice living transporting cigarettes from low-tax states in the South to high-tax states in the Northeast.

The cigarette tax in New York City, where I used to live, is more than 100 times the tax in Virginia, where I live now. I may get into the business myself.

Then again, the competition might be a little too rough for me. A few months ago the FBI announced the arrest of 17 people accused of smuggling cigarettes from North Carolina to raise money for the terrorist group Hezbollah.

The government said the ring was earning as much as $10,000 with each van load. Thanks to Michael Bloomberg and the New York City Council, the potential earnings for terrorists have doubled.

Robert L. Shepherd, a former New York State tax official, predicts the city will see a decline in revenue as smokers shop around. "I think with $1.50 they'll pass the tipping point," he told the Times. That's what happened several years ago in Canada, where the government was forced to cut cigarette taxes in response to widespread smuggling and evasion.

Yet Bloomberg, who equates zero tax revenue with zero smoking, apparently thinks smokers will not be resourceful enough to avoid his tax. He also seems to discount the possibility that they will respond to higher prices by, say, economizing on other expenditures, getting a second job, dipping into their savings, going into debt, or turning to crime.

These assumptions are surprising, since Bloomberg also believes that life without nicotine is unthinkable for the average smoker. "This is not exactly freedom of choice," he informed opponents of the tax hike, "given that smoking is addictive and that the industry spends billions of dollars to get people hooked on it."

No doubt Bloomberg is right that some smokers will quit rather than pay exorbitant prices or go to the trouble of finding alternative supplies. But that choice will demonstrate that they were never the helpless victims he makes them out to be.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; cigarettetaxes; nannystate; newyork; newyorkcity; pufflist
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To: JeanS; *puff_list; SheLion; maxwell; Just another Joe; Gabz
Puff....Ping
21 posted on 07/05/2002 9:16:58 AM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: morjon
What I don't understand is why the tabacco manufacturers don't just boycott NY or CA when they raise taxes? I realize they would loose revenue, but for tabacco companys to be solely taxed, while liquor doesn't seems to be taxed at the same rate, to me seems to be taxation without repensentation! If I were RJR, I would get together with other tabacco companys and pull out of the liberal state markets and let them find another creative source to finance their bloated budgets!
22 posted on 07/05/2002 9:21:15 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: umgud
The average pack of smokes is 6.5 cubic inches and aren't very heavy A typical semi-truck van measures 576" long (48') x 96" wide x 110" high....

How many packs of smokes can you smuggle in one trip? What is your minimum and maximum expected per/pack profits

LOTS, and if you order the tobacco and cigarette tubes today, while it is still legal, the future profits could be astronomical.

I love capitalism!

23 posted on 07/05/2002 9:23:49 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: _Jim; Roscoe; Poohbah
This was meant for you.
24 posted on 07/05/2002 9:24:27 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: JeanS
Supposedly tourism is important to NYC. If that is true, then they ought to have a smoker's advisory in all their advertisements and commercials (BYOS) Bring you own smokes.
25 posted on 07/05/2002 9:27:00 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Maelstrom
The cigarettes equal crack argument again? Yawn.

Have you ever thought about having that tattooed on your forehead?
26 posted on 07/05/2002 9:28:40 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
No, the prohibition = prohibition argument.

I hope you too are somewhere in NY so you can see for yourself the violence the black market in tobacco brings.
27 posted on 07/05/2002 9:32:10 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: Maelstrom
No, the prohibition = prohibition argument.

How facile.

28 posted on 07/05/2002 9:34:30 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: dubyaismypresident
When a New Yorker buys a pack of Marlboros, the city will make four or five times as much as Philip Morris does. But that's OK, because the mayor's heart is in the right place.

That says it all right there, dude...

29 posted on 07/05/2002 9:36:34 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: umgud
Here's another math problem. I can't do it because I don't have a pack of cigarettes around (I smoke cigars). How much does a pack of cigarettes weigh? I seem to remember it's 1.5 oz., or something like that. If that's so, $7 x 10.1 (approx) = $77/pound. Still not quite as expensive as silver.
30 posted on 07/05/2002 9:47:54 AM PDT by MoralSense
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To: AdA$tra
We sell cigarettes: 199 at a time.
31 posted on 07/05/2002 9:58:33 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: umgud
How many packs of smokes can you smuggle in one trip?

77981.53846154

(Of course, I'm probably dead wrong as per usual :-)

What is your minimum and maximum expected per/pack profits

2-3 dollars per pack.

Just a few more trips and I can be a multi-millionaire inside of a week.

32 posted on 07/05/2002 10:03:58 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Bommer
What I don't understand is why the tabacco manufacturers don't just boycott NY or CA when they raise taxes?

They can't because under the terms of the Master Settlement agreement, the payments for which are based on sales volume, the manufacturers are required to continue to sell their product in the 46 states which signed the agreement, and that includes NY.

When sales of cigarettes plummet in New York City, and the MSA payments to the state start dropping I can see the folks in Albany teling Mayor Bloominidiot to ditch the increase.

33 posted on 07/05/2002 10:10:52 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: lowbridge
You must still undercut the other sellers. Then avoid the IRS and the local business laws.

Also...as this gears up, watch out for those willing to shoot others selling on their turf.

I'm not sure how many cigarettes can be sold by an individual, legally, under our law system...you aren't free to sell what you please to whom you please. Then, there are limits on what may be transported across the border, but then again, once you're outside Bloomberg's Reign of Terror (upstate) you've evaded his tax, so maybe you just need a cardboard stand at the end of the Washington Bridge or the beginning of Rt 90.
34 posted on 07/05/2002 10:13:43 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: JeanS
No doubt Bloomberg is right that some smokers will quit rather than pay exorbitant prices or go to the trouble of finding alternative supplies. But that choice will demonstrate that they were never the helpless victims he maks them out to be.

NO WAY! It just forces smokers to go to the NET, or across state lines, Reservations or rolling our own. And let the state pound sand!

And ole Bloomberg! heh! He smoked pot and LIKED it. He's a dumb a$$.

They have screwed themselves by taxing cigarettes to high heaven. It's stupid now, for any smoker to pay into the state coffers!!

35 posted on 07/05/2002 10:13:52 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: JeanS
The smugglers started their engines a long time ago, and they are ready.
36 posted on 07/05/2002 10:22:48 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: JeanS
But Bloomberg said it was really all about public health. "This may be the most important measure my administration takes to save people's lives," he declared, arguing that higher cigarette prices will encourage smokers to quit, giving them extra years in which to thank him for the favor he is doing them.

This is proof that Republicans are somewhat as "big, nanny government" as Democrats are. In Michigan, we elected a republican house, senate, and governorship; what did they do? They made the seat belt law a primary offense instead of a secondary offense that our republican governor, John Engler, had promised it would remain. "Don't worry you stupid subjects, your government will save you from yourselves."

37 posted on 07/05/2002 10:24:19 AM PDT by rodeocowboy
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To: steve50
I'm ready to start the RYO process myself. Could you recommend a good machine and a light no additive tobacco to start with?

STEVE! I'M HURT! Why didn't you ask ME??????

Here is the Supermatic cigarette rolling machine "I" use. It's top of the line and rolls out cigarettes like RJR!!!!

You buy it off the net and last forever!! Let me know if you don't have the URL Hon.

38 posted on 07/05/2002 10:25:17 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: general_re
Pretty much. For a while, there were some upstate NY'ers and Canadians making fat money floating smokes across Lake Ontario by the boatload...

And the black market is set to arrive again, the government has now raised the price of a carton to $52.

39 posted on 07/05/2002 10:27:49 AM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Gabz; *puff_list; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Max McGarrity; Tumbleweed_Connection; red-dawg; ...
When sales of cigarettes plummet in New York City, and the MSA payments to the state start dropping I can see the folks in Albany teling Mayor Bloominidiot to ditch the increase.

Not to MENTION that smokers pay into the MSA %100!!!!!

40 posted on 07/05/2002 10:30:13 AM PDT by SheLion
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