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Immigration bill's failure disappoints president
El Paso Times ^ | March 22, 2002 | Sergio Bustos

Posted on 03/23/2002 12:25:55 AM PST by sarcasm

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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
WASHINGTON -- In the weeks leading up to President Bush's trip to Latin America, including a stopover in Mexico, the White House was aggressively pushing Congress to approve a bill allowing undocumented immigrants to stay in the United States while applying for green cards.

Unfortunately, our president is spending more time trying to legalize aliens who have violated our laws than he is on important domestic issues. Isn't he the president of the United States of America? Or, is he secretly the co-ruler over Mexico?

I am in shock over the effort he is willing to place on mexican issues. I bet much of America is too.

61 posted on 03/23/2002 12:07:49 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: meenie
At the end of the road they are taking us down the only law which will matter will be Rule 308.
62 posted on 03/23/2002 12:10:42 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: sarcasm
ADL's Policy Outlook
The Bush Administration and the 107th Congress

Immigration and Refugees
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Given the narrower margin in Congress and a new President who campaigned on a heavily pro-immigration platform, the prospect of building bipartisan support for at least some pro-immigrant initiatives looks promising. Action on this issue will also hinge on the new chairs of both the House and Senate subcommittees which oversee immigration policy. The 106th Congress failed to enact several key provisions to enhance the fair treatment of immigrants and to ensure due process for refugees fleeing persecution. ADL will work with coalition partners early in the Congressional session on reintroduction of these bills.
63 posted on 03/23/2002 12:13:44 PM PST by luvzhottea
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
We are second class citizens because the D.C. bunch thinks we are in line to vote for them again, already. They don't need to worry about us because we won't vote for a democrat, which is correct, I won't. However, what they don't realize is that all of this pandering to mexicans is pissing off many Americans, and we will stay at home, or vote 3rd party come the next election.

GW is already bent out of shape because many Christians stayed home in the last election. Can you imagine how many GOP members will stay home next time around if they remember this?

It is true that politicians stage these events far from the next presidential election so that we don't remember the junk they did to us. In this instance, millions of people will be moving to the USA over the next few years and we won't forget that those in D.C. do not care one bit about our borders, language, and culture.

64 posted on 03/23/2002 12:16:25 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: 4Freedom
The problem isn't with the INS. The problem is with our pandering politicians that are allowing millions of legal and illegal immigrants into the country every year, with no regulation in sight.

You have definitely nailed it. INS is an enforcement disaster because congress WANTS IT THAT WAY! This is why splitting the agency into two parts with a separate enforcement agency will do nothing. Congress will continue to undermine enforcement just as they do now. Illegal aliens are Democrat voters and Republican sub-minimum-wage labor.

65 posted on 03/23/2002 12:18:04 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: meenie
"Bush, speaking to reporters the day before his Latin American trip, insisted that congressional approval of the measure is a friendly gesture to its southern neighbor."

I have a better gesture for our so called "southern neighbor" who does not mind breaking down our back door and robbing our fridge....... Just For You, Vicente Fox

66 posted on 03/23/2002 12:23:27 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
The Congress will probably put inept Libertarians in charge of both agencies. LOL.
67 posted on 03/23/2002 12:24:05 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: sarcasm
C'est dommage.
68 posted on 03/23/2002 12:25:33 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: AAABEST

It needed his name on it.

69 posted on 03/23/2002 12:30:58 PM PST by Dawgsquat
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To: antidemocommie
You just got my vote. LOL.
70 posted on 03/23/2002 12:31:47 PM PST by 4Freedom
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To: sarcasm
Bush, who wanted to show Mexican President Vicente Fox that his administration was serious about helping the estimated 3 million to 4 million undocumented Mexican immigrants who live in the United States.

I'd like to help 'em all go back to Mexico.

Thank you, Senator Byrd. (I never thought I'd say that!!)

71 posted on 03/23/2002 12:35:21 PM PST by Allegra
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To: Sabertooth
"I think that outreach on the basis of Amnesties for Illegals is condescending and insulting to Latinos."

I don't think that outreach exists, not for citizens anyway.

72 posted on 03/23/2002 12:36:44 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Allegra
Bush, who wanted to show Mexican President Vicente Fox that his administration was serious about helping the estimated 3 million to 4 million undocumented Mexican immigrants who live in the United States.

I'd like to help 'em all go back to Mexico.

Thank you, Senator Byrd. (I never thought I'd say that!!)

71 posted on 3/23/02 1:35 PM Pacific by Allegra

AMEN!

73 posted on 03/23/2002 12:50:02 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I agree.

I've got Bushbots all over my ass lately. They're in some kind of Svengali like trance which induces violent outbursts if they are confronted with anything that's interpreted as anti-quazichrist.

If you wanna laugh hard go to one of those silly-assed "Day in the Life" threads. I'm certain that a few of the posters over there would actually physically harm or kill me if they had the chance because I make fun of them/him sometimes.

74 posted on 03/23/2002 12:57:17 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST; Sabertooth; AmericaninTokyo
Just cross out Clinton's name and put in Jorge Bush. Illegal amnesty

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Illegal amnesty

Government News Keywords: ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, CITIZENSHIP, SOVEREIGNTY
Source: The Pittsburgh Tribune Review
Published: Thursday, October 26, 2000 Author: editorial
Posted on 10/26/2000 07:27:11 PDT by Willie Green

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

President Bill Clinton is demonstrating his disdain for the responsibility of U.S. citizenship by promoting legislation that would award amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Joined by congressional Democrats, Mr. Clinton would simply allow those individuals who broke the law in entering this country to be forgiven their transgressions.

So adamant is Clinton about the amnesty that he is willing to tie up the federal budget over the issue. Clinton has attached the amnesty measure to appropriations legislation, obscuring the amnesty issue from public hearings and providing no opportunity for any study of its impact.

But the amnesty cheapens the efforts of those millions who have immigrated to this country by legal means and have become constructive citizens. It would reward lawlessness and subterfuge and add a tremendous financial burden to border states. According to one study, the net cost of a similar amnesty in 1986 was more than $78 billion.

Even worse, an amnesty would spark another wave of illegal immigration. It's estimated that 3 million illegal immigrants poured across the borders after the 1986 amnesty.

Tying the amnesty to federal appropriations is a political ploy designed to appeal to immigrant voters in those border states. But those voters should see through the Democrats' posturing and demand diligent control of our borders.

The United States always has welcomed the teeming masses, yearning to be free. But the nation has a duty to make sure that those who enter are willing to accept the responsibility of that freedom. Granting amnesty to those who have ignored the law of the land mocks that freedom.

"President of the United States Wants To Grant Amnesty Up To 4 Million Illegal Aliens"

AN AMNESTY BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL AN AMNESTY


A DAY IN THE LIFE OF GEORGE W. BUSH

Statement by the President

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
March 20, 2002
Statement by the President

Like many Republicans and Democrats in the Congress, I support common-sense reforms to end abuses in our campaign finance system. The reforms passed today, while flawed in some areas, still improve the current system overall, and I will sign them into law.

The legislation makes some important progress on the timeliness of disclosure, individual contribution limits, and banning soft money from corporations and labor unions, but it does present some legitimate constitutional questions. I continue to believe the best reform is full and timely disclosure of campaign contributions.

###

Return to this article at:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020320-21.html


The George W. Bush Lie

ABC News's This Week on January 23, 2000:

GEORGE F. WILL: I want to see if you agree with those who say it would be bad for the First Amendment? I know you're not a lawyer, you say that with some pride, but do you think a president, and we've got a lot of non-lawyer presidents, has a duty to make an independent judgment of what is and is not constitutional, and veto bills that, in his judgment, he thinks are unconstitutional?

GOV. BUSH: I do.

WILL: In which case, would you veto the McCain-Feingold bill, or the Shays-Meehan bill?

BUSH: That's an interesting question. I — I — yes I would.
Source

LIAR - George W. Bush


George W. Bush: No Amnesty for Immigrants - "There's going to be no amnesty"

Bush says he won't legalize illegal immigrants

Bush Administration Wants to Extend Immigration "Amnesty"

Bush Proposing "Amnesty" for Illegal Aliens

INS Commissioner James Ziglar addressed a meeting of the National Immigration Forum on Friday, where he reiterated the Bush administration's support for an amnesty benefiting illegal aliens from Mexico and support for the Section 245(i)

Immigration "Amnesty" Passes House - Fox News

Congress OKs "Amnesty" for Illegal Aliens

House clears "amnesty" bill under pressure from Bush

President Bush yesterday called on the Senate to pass a bill that would grant "amnesty" to hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens

Darkness By Design For "Amnesty" Move

"There are more than 500,000 undocumented immigrants in the country who are eligible to become legal permanent residents" - George W. Bush

AMNESTY by BUSH - The Truth about Section 245(i)

INS Memo: Sec. 245(i) filings

Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment.
Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.


How Do I Benefit From Section 245(i)?

Our immigration laws allow qualified individuals to enter the United States as lawful permanent residents ("green card" holders) after they obtain immigrant visas from a consulate or embassy outside the United States or, for many immigrants already lawfully in the United States, through a process called "adjustment of status." If you entered the United States unlawfully, if you entered with permission but did not stay in lawful status, or if you worked without permission, you normally would have to leave the United States in order to apply for an immigrant visa. Special rules under section 245(i) may allow you to apply to adjust status without leaving the United States.

You might need section 245(i) if you:

  • Entered the U.S. without being inspected by an INS official.
  • Stayed in the U.S. longer than allowed by INS.
  • Entered the U.S. as a worker on an aircraft or ship (crewman).
  • Entered the U.S. as a "Transit Without Visa."
  • Failed to continuously maintain a lawful status since your entry into the US.
  • Worked in the U.S. without INS permission.
  • Entered as an "S" nonimmigrant (relates to witnesses about criminal or terrorism matters).
  • Are seeking a work-related visa and are out of status at the time of filing the application to adjust status (Form I-485).
  • Worked in the U.S. while being an "unauthorized alien."


LINK

"Indeed, during the immigration debate of 1984 we suggested an ultimate goal to guide passing policies--a constitutional amendment: "There shall be open borders." - July 2, 2001 - ROBERT L. BARTLEY - Editor of The Wall Street Journal
"Another amnesty for undocumented aliens is already in the air"

George W. Bush In Firm Agreement With Communist Party:

Communist Party USA - Proposed Resolution against Racism and for Immigrant Rights
A] Open unlimited immigration into the USA Jorge W. Bush - Open Borders

B] Compulsory bi-lingual education for all adults and their families of whatever country or cultural background. Federal prohibition of " English Only " English, Huh? Bush firmly rejected “English-only,” which has caused problems among Hispanics. “I support English-plus, not English-only,” said Bush. “English-only says to me that if Hispanic happens to be your heritage, you’re not part of the process.”

C] Extension of all existing labor and workplace protection laws, and the right to redress under them for all immigrant workers, documented or not. Bush measure to be introduced in Congress that grants Illegal Aliens the same rights in the workplace as U.S. citizens.

D] Support for the AFL-CIO policy on amnesty, and a call for a major AFL-CIO drive in all minority communities, and that consciously strategies to avoid any attempts to "whipsaw" one community against another. Which president, take your pick

In Mexico, Daschle, Gephardt give strongest support yet to more open borders, immigration reform

"President of the United States Wants To Grant Amnesty Up To 4 Million Illegal Aliens"

George W. Bush: No Amnesty for Immigrants - "There's going to be no amnesty"
"Read My Lips""

George W. Bush Doesn't Need No Stinking Polls
How George W. Bush Uses Polls

Jorge W. Bush Was Just Kidding - Bush Administration Wants to Extend Immigration "Amnesty"

"Bush Presiona Por La 245(i)"

Is Anyone Listening?


75 posted on 03/23/2002 2:12:58 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: innocentbystander; Sabertooth
Thank you, innocentbystander! I just wanted to congratulate you on your intelligent and reasonable comment, which I read the other day on another thread. You comments were right on target:

To: JohnHuang2

Bush is a friggin genius.

He had his Mexico meeting and all the good will that went with it. Now it is left to the Dems to remove the one part of the bill that Mexico wanted.

Bush doesnt get blamed for the immigration clause, while the Democrats get blamed for its EXCLUSION!! Every one here is happy, but the immigrant population blames the Dems instead of Bush!

Masterful, Mr Rove!

8 posted on 3/18/02 10:53 PM Pacific by innocentbystander
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You were absolutely right! By reading this article it's clear that was GW's intentions. Nevertheless, the Bush haters even in the face of this article fail to realize that this was GW's ultimate political end-game plan.

The reality was this, as this article indicates:

Passage of the bill would, in fact, allow certain undocumented immigrants to file residency applications without having to leave the country. Current law, covered by Section 245(i) of the U.S. immigration statute, requires such immigrants to return home for as long as 10 years.

To qualify, immigrants would need a family member or employer as a sponsor and need to prove the relationship existed before Aug. 15, 2001. They also would have to pay a $1,000 fine and prove that they were in the country on or before Dec. 21, 2000.

But immigration experts said passage of 245(i) is a minor issue between the United States and Mexico, affecting a small number of immigrants.

SMALL NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS! It was never millions as most of "the sky is falling" types on these threads were screaming about. And the bill now has failed.

76 posted on 03/23/2002 2:23:26 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Uncle Bill
You have assembled a mighty arsenal of rational evidence to prove that Bush is not to be trusted with the sovereignty of this nation nor it's borders. And THIS, in a time of War!!!

In high school debate, you would be awarded the 'win', because you showed up and competed with an impressive array of evidence cards to back up your contention.

77 posted on 03/23/2002 2:41:25 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Victoria Delsoul; innocentbystander
innocentbystander: Bush is a friggin genius.

He had his Mexico meeting and all the good will that went with it. Now it is left to the Dems to remove the one part of the bill that Mexico wanted.

The one part of the bill that most Americans, had they been informed, would have opposed.

How is that good for the GOP?

innocentbystander: Bush doesnt get blamed for the immigration clause, while the Democrats get blamed for its EXCLUSION!! Every one here is happy, but the immigrant population blames the Dems instead of Bush!

Nice exercise in wishful thinking. Bush will most certainly be blamed for this surreptitious Amnesty attempt, he was the instigator.

You are underestimating the volatility of this issue, IB.

But, let's take your "Bush is a friggin' genius" argument a step further.

Answer me this

If the Latinos and the immigrant population flock to the GOP because the Dems blocked Amnesty...

What will the RINOs have top offer them to stay?




Victoria Delsoul: SMALL NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS! It was never millions as most of "the sky is falling" types on these threads were screaming about. And the bill now has failed.

Just not true, Victoria... Most were simply not screaming about millions of Amnesties from this particular bill.

What many ardent Bush defenders fail to understand is that any Amnesty only encourages more Illegals... The only thing that will dissuade them is deportation. But we all know that there is bipartisan cowardice on that issue.

The millions being discussed, in most cases, were in references to other "normalization" and "regularization" Amnesties by other names that the Bush Administration has been floating trial balloons for almost since he took his oath.

The innacurate screaming was done by those claiming that President Bush's proposed 245(i) extension wouldn't be an Amnesty in any form. This was shown to be false HERE.

Many, if not most of the estimated 200,000 "changes in status" would be for Illegals, who never should have been in this country in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, 10 years isn't long enough to keep them out.

If the President didn't want this to be an Amnesty of any sort, he could have limited the extension only to those foreign nationals who had entered the United States legally. As shown on the link above, Bush proposed no such limit.

That's because President Bush dearly wanted an Amnesty, just in time for this week's visit with Mexican President Vicente Fox..




78 posted on 03/23/2002 2:54:57 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Uncle Bill
Bump that. Great post.




79 posted on 03/23/2002 2:56:47 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Uncle Bill
Good work! Yikes!
80 posted on 03/23/2002 2:57:16 PM PST by Tancredo Fan
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