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Immigration bill's failure disappoints president
El Paso Times ^ | March 22, 2002 | Sergio Bustos

Posted on 03/23/2002 12:25:55 AM PST by sarcasm

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To: Victoria Delsoul
I love that graphic. This infamous reporter from the New York Times thought the sky had fallen, too -- but it was only Alberta's Child laying a beating on him:


141 posted on 03/25/2002 9:19:30 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
You're looking good, AC! Hehehe.
142 posted on 03/25/2002 10:24:29 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Get it? Section 245(i) was not going to create "amnesty for millions of illegal aliens" as the provocateurs on these threads were screaming. This was the proverbial mountain out of a molehill.

Calling opponents of 245(i) "Chicken Littles" screaming about an amnesty for millions is demagoguery and obfuscation.

You're absolutely right. You should address your concern to Twodees since he brought it up in reply #90. Don't blame me for responding in his own words:

"Observing that a sitting president isn't what his followers swear he is can hardly be called Chicken Little behavior."

"However, the paranoid "sky is falling" Bush-haters that inundate these threads couldn't see it. Even with this article, their blind unreasoning hatred prevents them from seeing that this was the game plan - politics.

So much bombast and vitriol over a bill that didn't even pass. What a waste of bandwidth."

85 posted on 3/23/02 9:24 PM Eastern by Victoria Delsoul

your post 85 contained the first acusation of a "Chicken Little" mentality on this thread.

We've been hearing the same dire apocalyptic warnings, the same wailing and gnashing of teeth about the threat of immigration since even before the country gained independence.

In 1753, Benjamin Franklin warned that the influx of German immigrants threatened to destroy the predominantly English culture and language in the colonies. It didn't happen. A century later, Senator Henry Cabot Lodge warned against the deadly influx of immigrants from Central and Southern Europe, whom he described as people of a different race with whom Americans have never assimilated. His warnings proved specious as well. Today, it is Pat Buchanan and the 21st century equivalent of the Know Nothings who issue apocalyptic warnings about illegal immigration, primarily from Mexico.

I believe you will not find many if any quotes attributable to opponents of 245(i) on recent threads that allude to the millions who would receive amnesty under 245(i). What you believe is irrelevant. Let's look at the facts, shall we?

If you feel that what other people believe is irrelevant then why are you discussing this issue with me ? Why do you post to Free Republic ? Is your demagogue alter ego showing ?

Which of course contradicts everything Bush said a few days ago when he purposely mislead Americans into thinking that he was going to drop Amnesties from his open border agenda. As some have pointed out, given that Bush twisted arms to get the 245I amnesty rammed through the House and only "specified" which amnesties he won't support he was in fact acknowledging that he is FOR "more" amnesties and FOR the legalization of millions of illegal aliens. Bush also admitted that his administration would not enforce federal laws against illegal immigration because the business community doesn't want him to. At least he was honest about that. Does this surprise anyone? Unless Congress can shut down Bush's insane open borders agenda our nation faces ever increasing perils to its sovereignty and security.

21 posted on 3/17/02 1:58 PM Pacific by Wrhine

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There have been signals from the White House for months (since even before 9/11) that President Bush is looking at a bigger Amnesty proposal that would give green cards to 3.5 million to 5 million illegals.

100 ILLEGAL e-mails in 24 hours? Posted by Sabertooth - LINK.

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Next time tell Mr President Jorge Bush that we voted for him in 2000 because we had to get rid of the vice traitor Al Gore. He needs us to get reelected. If he betrays us and gives amnesty to millions of illegals not only will we not vote for him but we will all get hundreds and thousands of other people to also vote against him. So just obey the constitution Mr President.

30 posted on 3/11/02 11:19 AM Pacific by majordivit

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These are just a few examples out of many similar posts you will find on these threads. Unfortunately I don't have time to collect them for posterity. These posts should give you an idea how much hysteria and hyperbole this issue generates.

In none none of your cited posts does the author state that 245(i)will lead to amnesty for millions of illegals.

Pointing out irrationality and ignorance is not demagoguery and obfuscation.

Trying to stifle your opponents by calling them ignorant and irrational is demogoguery

143 posted on 03/25/2002 5:37:09 PM PST by Love America or move to ......
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To: Love America or move to ......
LOL! What are you trying to do, kill me with boredom? You seem to have a fondness for html, but there is no need to copy someone's full posts just to repeat my comments. This is not a child's competition. … You are a demagogue … no you are…. no you are… no you… no you…. you! Unless you have something worthwhile to say, please don't waste my time.
144 posted on 03/25/2002 6:39:40 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
This would be a good time to practice your Chinese ;-)
145 posted on 03/25/2002 6:49:55 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: habs4ever
OK.

Yu Stin Ki Pu, sum ting wong? Kum Hia Nao dum gai.

146 posted on 03/25/2002 6:58:43 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Right. Later then....
147 posted on 03/26/2002 4:08:50 AM PST by Love America or move to ......
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Thanks, but my knuckles really do hurt . . .

LOL!

148 posted on 03/26/2002 9:22:32 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
:-D
149 posted on 03/26/2002 9:46:35 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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