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Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill
Denver Post ^ | March 8, 2002 | Bill McAllister

Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm

Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents, but Thursday the outspoken immigration foe said he may have been outmaneuvered by the White House.

President Bush has struck a deal with the House leadership to place legislation that offers an extension of amnesty on its consent calendar before Bush heads to Mexico for a state visit next week, the Colorado Republican said.

That action should ensure quick House passage of legislation that Bush has repeatedly sought from Congress. It would allow an undocumented person to receive legal standing, such as a valid green card, by filing a declaration with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

It presumably also would require the person to have been in the United States by a certain date and have filed a declaration with the INS from an appropriate sponsor, such as a relative or employer, and pay a $1,000 penalty.

"The terms are still up in the air," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration, a group that has been allied with Tancredo. "We've heard to the effect that the president wants something to bring down to Mexico."

The initial Bush proposal, designed exclusively for Mexicans, once was high on the president's legislative wish list, but it was delayed after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. However, as the president noted Wednesday in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, he now is pushing for the extension of the amnesty program known by the section of immigration law that covers it, Section 245I.

The president hailed it as a way to reunite family, separated by the border. "If you believe in family values, if you understand the worth of family and the importance of family, let's get 245I out of the United States Congress and give me a chance to sign it," Bush told the chamber members.

Tancredo, the head of a congressional caucus on immigration issues and proponent of halting virtually all immigration, said he had blocked a previous attempt by Bush to push an extension of the amnesty program through the House. But this time, he said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had agreed to place the issue on the suspension, or consent, calendar, making it difficult to defeat the proposal.

The Senate might be more favorable to the bill than the House, expanding the numbers of individuals who can apply, Tancredo said.


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To: Twodees
You remind me of someone at a party who thinks he's devastatingly witty, but he has wet his pants and is too drunk to notice.

Perhaps that person is you. Here, you might need this link - DEPENDS.

1,101 posted on 03/10/2002 10:13:19 AM PST by VA Advogado
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To: KirkandBurke
No need to travel, any such battle would be well dispersed, to a neighborhood near you.
1,102 posted on 03/10/2002 10:14:38 AM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: HennepinPrisoner
Liberals always obfuscate the truth.
1,103 posted on 03/10/2002 10:14:43 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: All
For those of you who would like to see what kind of garbage Mr. Bush will be rewarding with citizenship in the US, here's a little link: The Arellano Felix Gang

For those of you who think that only law-abiding illegal aliens (figure it out on your own) will be getting this amnesty, think again. The last amnesty was so riddled with fraud that no one has any idea who the people were who got in. Just ask Bill King, the man who ran that amnesty and the former Western Regional Head of the Border Patrol.

Oh, I forgot. He's just a mean old American cop who's not to be trusted by true blue conservatives who have always taken the word of illegal alien drug traffickers over that of a U.S. Border Patrolman. Right?

And just remember, all this will be to reward a country that told us where to shove it when 3600 people were massacred in downtown NYC. And while American guys are dying in a war.

TELL ME WHY, CRIMINAL LOVERS.

1,104 posted on 03/10/2002 10:15:21 AM PST by Regulator
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To: TEXICAN II
I can give you chapter & verse from an entire encyclopedia of why those Mexican trucks, with their Mexican drivers, should STOP COLD, at our border.

Anyone who doesn't believe that should take a look at what is across the border ---see it for themselves. Try touring Ciudad Juarez where executions on the streets and upper class resturants is going on every few days, take a good look at the cardboard houses and shanty towns, check out the murder rate and other types of crime, count the dead journalists. There's a lot of good Mexicans but you can find someone over there who will do anything for a bribe (most of their government officials) ---including transporting a nuclear weapon into the US.

1,105 posted on 03/10/2002 10:15:53 AM PST by FITZ
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To: bimbo
If the proposal goes through, Conservatives won't matter anymore ...

That's why Bubba-2 is doing it,but he thinks all these new voters will vote for him and then his nephew. His father didn't like conservatives,and neither does he.

1,106 posted on 03/10/2002 10:16:16 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Just goes to show more than just a few folks out there are not too happy with what's going on. Are you paying attention Republicans in Congress?

Yes they are, but they don't care. They live behind their Ivory Towers and their getting cheap labor for their campaign contributors.

All we have is the power to vote them out of office. I'll do my part. And it is encouraging, as I am reading this thread, that many others are going to as well.

I'll be moving to Tom Delay's district in about 2 weeks time. I'll be watching his vote on this very issue.

1,107 posted on 03/10/2002 10:17:19 AM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: blueriver
Legal immigration may have been good for this country at one time but it is no longer good for this country. We have had enough immigration, the unemployment is going to keep rising and people will begin to realize that this country as great as it is can not sustain continuing unabated immigration.

I don't think we need to halt all the legal immigration, but we sure need to slow it to a trickle and only immigrate those people that would have a positive effect on our country.

We need to cancel the H1B program, the Immigrant Visa Lottery, and many other programs that lead to Permanent Residency. We definitely need to get the situation under control, but I don't think a complete halt to all forms of Immigration is necessary.

Ask yourself the question - if Bush decides to give green cards out at the border (making it legal immigration) would this be acceptable to you?

No it would not, but you know as well as I do, that it would never happen like that. Let's stick to what is happening and not some "What IF" scenario.

1,108 posted on 03/10/2002 10:17:21 AM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: Dane
Wow, reality rears its head in the anti-American, anti-rule of law, anti-common sense, pro-illegal alien, pro-more Americans out of jobs, pro-high taxation, pro-deteriorated schools, pro-loss of natural space, pro-bigger government, pro-death of American Culture, pro-Political Correctness, Pro-Trendy Slogans, Pro-Invasion, Pro-Tyranny & Pro-Lying Crowd.
1,109 posted on 03/10/2002 10:17:49 AM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: Brownie74
"I hope someone will run a live thread Tuesday about 245(i)."

Good idea

1,110 posted on 03/10/2002 10:19:40 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: HennepinPrisoner
Isn't Tom Delay a Libertarian? There are a few positions of them I agree with, but on this immigration issue they're lost. Open borders, let anyone in, free movement blah blah. 20 years from now millions will be saying "why didn't we vote for Pat Buchanan, anyone who would have stopped this"?
1,111 posted on 03/10/2002 10:21:11 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: TEXICAN II
I simply see the nice, down-to-earth fellow from an upper class, Deep West Texas 'Oil Patch' family,

Excuse me? The Bush family is from Ct,not Tx.

1,112 posted on 03/10/2002 10:22:50 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Isn't Tom Delay a Libertarian?

I think that you are thinking of Texas Congressman Ron Paul. Officially, he is a Republican, but he casts his vote based on the Libertarian platform/philosophy. There are a few positions of them I agree with, but on this immigration issue they're lost.

The Libertarian philosophy on borders is totally out of lockstep with mine. The Constitution Party has the best platform on this issue that I have read. They basically have the same philosophy as Australia's One Nation party.

1,113 posted on 03/10/2002 10:26:02 AM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: HennepinPrisoner
Officially, he is a Republican

For clarification, I was speaking of Ron Paul!

1,114 posted on 03/10/2002 10:26:59 AM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: TEXICAN II
I can give you chapter & verse from an entire encyclopedia of why those Mexican trucks, with their Mexican drivers, should STOP COLD, at our border. No law, regulation or program can change their bad effects & the cost, both economic & now, perhaps, military.

I won't pretend to know anything about the trucking industries. The point I was trying to make was: If we let Mexican trucks into the US, then they must be held to the same standard and American trucks or Canadian trucks. If Mexico does not allow our truckers to drive into Mexico, then I see no reason to allow Mexican truckers to drive into our country.

You are obviously the finest sort of public servant, a dedicated citizen, have intimate, first hand knowledge of an entire universe, about which I & others may only speculate. I salute you & cherish your comments. They are very valuable.

Thank you for those fine comments

But please, kind sir, the NAFTA deal, GAT, the immigration rules, the whole kit-&-kaboodle are rotten in every respect. The borders should be closed as tight as the doors to the Fort Knox vault. Every Criminal alien & ANY legal alien not found to be on the most legitimate of business or trade missions, should be removed immediately. The immigration INVASION ( legal & illegal ) will destroy what's left of our nation & may well kill us all.

As I have stated in some of my previous posts, I don not think we need to totally stop all immigration. But the numbers need to very, very low. At this point, I would say the immigrants we should allow in are spouse and children of US citizens and those professionals that want to contribute to the growth and prosperity of this Nation. Outside of those two categories, I would say: feel free to visit, but remember to go home.

As for NAFTA and the rest of these programs, they should all be thrown in the trash. These programs serve only to allow foreigners another avenue to immigrate to the US.

1,115 posted on 03/10/2002 10:29:55 AM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Let the hard core socialist be elected if this is what it takes to expedite their eventual demise. Let the sleeping Americans see up front and soon what the hell is lurking in their own neighborhoods and city halls, state capitals etc.

I agree Joe. The open borders globalists are taking America down one notch at a time. The downward change is slow enough that citizens can adjust to it as they go about their daily life. It's the frog-pot analogy. By voting for the lesser of two socialists we ensure that America won't wake up before it is too late.

Only by voting for the party and candidates that best represent our point of view (and they are out there) do we have a chance at awakening the Sheeple. No doubt this will result in the dems gaining full control of the federal government but this is the shock that America needs for the slumbering electorate to turn on the political class that is destroying this country. And the only real difference I see between Bush and a typical democrat is that he is a better manager of the socialist state.

1,116 posted on 03/10/2002 10:32:38 AM PST by WRhine
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To: Marine Inspector
I don't think we need to halt all the legal immigration, but we sure need to slow it to a trickle and only immigrate those people that would have a positive effect on our country.

Give me an example of what type of immigration would have a positive effect on our country today. Please keep in mind that the engineering profession is already over staffed with foreigners.

Let's stick to what is happening and not some "What IF" scenario

I strongly disagree. The only difference between my what if scenario and the current amnesty proposal that is on the table is the location of the foreigner with respect to the border.

1,117 posted on 03/10/2002 10:32:49 AM PST by blueriver
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To: Dane
Thank God, I don't live in your America.

That's right, you don't live in his America. You live in the part of America that hasn't succombed to an invasion by the hundreds of thousands and millions. You live up in the hills of Pittsburgh, of which there are no more than one or two percent illegal aliens. The result of this may lead you to not understand the complexity of the problem. It's called out of sight-out of mind. Or, more specifically, it could be called, "I don't see it, so you're discriminating, and who cares about laws, for I am trendy in my political correctness".

1,118 posted on 03/10/2002 10:34:42 AM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: VA Advogado
Do you even read the constitution? Your lack of knowledge as a citizen is a disgrace. Try Article 1, Section 8. Eight would be right after seven, if you're stumped.

You do know the difference between Naturalization and Immigration, don't you?

1,119 posted on 03/10/2002 10:37:06 AM PST by Marine Inspector
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