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‘It Isn’t Over Yet’:SDPD Chief Bejarano talks about latest developments in van Dam Case
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| March 1, 2002
| NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
Posted on 03/01/2002 7:36:24 AM PST by FresnoDA
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: Naked Lunch
But... if you found the front door open in the middle of the night, you'd probably check on your babies, right after you closed the door, right? Not that you'd be a bad parent if you didn't, but it would probably be hard to fall asleep until you checked, right? Yes, I would check if I found a door open. But maybe not, if my judgement was impaired by alcohol.
There were definitely some poor choices made, that 20-20 hindsight will haunt Danielle's parents forever. AND that is the case in the death of any child. BUT that doesn't make the VD's criminally or morally culpable in the death of their daughter.
Being a parent doesn't make one omnicient (although you should let your kids believe this for as long as possible). Those parent's had no way of knowing that evil stalked their neighborhood, waiting for opportunity.
I am not putting any stock into the lifestyle allegations until a verified LE source confirms them.
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posted on
03/01/2002 12:28:35 PM PST
by
Valpal1
To: Fury
You are disgusting, sir. Absolutely disgusting. Perhaps, but my disgustingness has nothing to do with the issue at hand. I am not the one who dressed up my child in the costume of an S&M bondage slave. I am not the one who arranged to have my child photographed in the costume of an S&M bondage slave. I am not the one who distributed photographs of my child in the costume of an S&M bondage slave. I am not the one who stayed out all hours of the night looking for swingers I could bring home to satify satiate my husband's appetite.
All I am is a guy who reads the newspaper and notices that other people are grooming their children for careers in the pornography industry.
To: Jaded
Yeah, could be. I went back to 10 days after the abduction...I should have stayed on the sidelines...
To: Fury
He seems to be fixated on this girl.
To: SlickWillard
Perhaps, but my disgustingness has nothing to do with the issue at hand. I am not the one who dressed up my child in the costume of an S&M bondage slave. I have seen no such photo. Where does any article even mention this?
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posted on
03/01/2002 12:30:26 PM PST
by
Fury
To: Robert_Paulson2
Interesting take on the situation. Anything is possible.
sw
386
posted on
03/01/2002 12:30:28 PM PST
by
spectre
To: BigBobber
The thing that bugs me the most about this case is why did Westerfield wait until 9:30 the next morning to leave in the RV if he was the childs' killerOne possible reason is if he always left the same time each weekend, leaving earlier might draw attention to himself.
To: sneakypete
As for your statement about perverts goes,you no doubt consider most people to be perverts. What? I consider Gary Condit, who shaves all his body hair, and has men violate his anus while he commits adultery with airline stewardesses, to be a pervert. I consider William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, who masturbates in White House sinks, to be a pervert. I consider the Van Dams, and their wannabee neighbors, who stay out all hours of the night searching for couples to join them for a little swinging, to be perverts.
To: sneakypete
Well, if you won't apologize, I will--sort of. We both might be right. I found four articles that mentioned the dog, a weirmoraner (is that proper spelling?). Two said it was debarked, one didn't go into it, and one said it wasn't debarked. I was going by the latter, but if the majority rules, the dog may have been debarked. And--as has been pointed out here, some dogs who have not been debarked don't bark when they should. The point still remains: why didn't the dog at least interfere with the prowler, unless the prowler was known to the dog, that is? And, it's never been mentioned, but I wonder if Westerfield has bite marks somewhere on his person?
To: VRWC_minion
Adults get molested in consenting relationships all the time. I don't think "molested" is the right word. There is no doubt at all that there are some adults who WANT to be treated badly,though.
Lewinsky certainly did, whether she consented or not.
She wasn't treated badly sexually. She got EXACTLY what she went looking for. Bad as Bubba-1 is,it was HER who was the sexual predator there.
Several of the clinton babes didn't consent.
Yup,and that involved rape and assault of several types. The man (and I use that term loosely!) belongs in prison.
To: Fury
I have seen no such photo. Are you blind? Did you look at Reply 370?
To: sneakypete
I've also heard that Australian "dingos" can't bark I had a border collie/dingo cross "Sharky" who never barked once in his long life. He did growl and whine. He was also a master thief of other peoples venison. He brought home more (stolen) hindquarters than my poor husband ever did.
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posted on
03/01/2002 12:38:09 PM PST
by
Valpal1
To: js1138
I don't think the police are framing Westerfield. I just don't think this case is as neat and tidy as press has reported it. I also think the van Dams are covering up their role in what happened. This case has many of the same elements of the Jon Bennet Ramsey murder.
To: SlickWillard
And #370 constitutes "a costume of an S&M bondage slave"? because she wears something around her neck?
Incredible... Just incredible...
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posted on
03/01/2002 12:40:23 PM PST
by
Fury
To: Mrs.Liberty
Another "open door" point, it was one of the coldest nights of the year, about 30*. If Damon was in the house, (and not the garage) an open door would have made itself very obvious by the cold air coming in.
To: sneakypete
Main Entry: mo·lest
Pronunciation: m&-'lest
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French molester, from Latin molestare, from molestus burdensome, annoying; akin to Latin moles mass
Date: 14th century
1 : to annoy, disturb, or persecute especially with hostile intent or injurious effect
2 : to make annoying sexual advances to; especially : to force physical and usually sexual contact on
To: bwteim
If a person can be charged with neglect/ or even accused of it when a phone rings and a child drowns in a pool because somebody is not minding the child for five minutes, what could a possible 11 hours bode...?Bears repeating.
To: grlfrnd
You're defending the lifestyle of swingers. And why not? They are adults,and not doing anything illegal.
Are you one?
No,but thank you for asking.
You seem to agree that what happened to Danielle is terrible, yet you think that swinging is okay, and that the parents lifestyle is not in any way responsible for endangering or the death of their child.
Good. I was afraid I wasn't being understood.
You keep defending swinging and the open relationship lifestyle.
OK,so what?
Please be honest with us as to why. I suspect you are a swinger yourself.
I defend it because I believe in personal freedom,and I've known and been friends with people who did this.I'm flattered that you keep asking,but I don't do this myself.
To: golitely
Here is a possbile scenario.. 1:30..dog whines, Damon hears it, goes down, sees the open door and lights blinking, shuts the door: Is the door open because DW has just gone in, and the door is open? Or because he is leaving with the girl, and has just left. If he has just gone in, then did Damon shut him in, where he hung out, unchecked for an hour or more upstairs in the little girl's room until he thought it was safe to leave (when parents were in the garage).
To: Valpal1
You are not very well grounded in "reality", are you?
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