Have you ever seen a picture of Danielle in which she is NOT wearing that hideous choker?
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Posted on 03/01/2002 7:36:24 AM PST by FresnoDA
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Correction, should read:
"I DO subscribe to the hip, with-it Sixties-generation view that adults should be free to live their lives as they wish, even if group sex is included."
Damon as usual has no expression: a moral flatliner, he only shows emotion when tied in restraints by multiple masters with whips.
Forgive me, but what does this supposedly mean?
That the parents did it, to the tin-foil hat crowd.
No.
Yes,it is. I'm no longer sure it is true in THIS case because the father was quoted as saying it was in the first thread,and now there is a newspaper story saying it isn't true. None the less,there ARE people who have this done to their dogs to keep their neighbors from complaining about the barking. I've also heard that Australian "dingos" can't bark,but have no idea what breed dog they have.
Brenda's reply is that there are only three home models in their neighborhood. She also said at one point that people in their neighborhood feel safe and many don't lock their doors.
Q. Is Westerfield's home the same model as the van Dams?.
Q. Why would the van Dams suspect the abductor came from their neighborhood, and had the same model house? If it is a "safe", presumably upscale neighborhood, why would you assume kidnappers live there?
The thing that bugs me the most about this case is why did Westerfield wait until 9:30 the next morning to leave in the RV if he was the childs' killer? He didn't know when Danielle would be missed. He didn't know when search dogs would start fanning out from the van Dam house, two doors away. He didn't know when police would knock on his door with a house by house search. Why take such a risk of discovery? Had he already disposed of the child's body that night, then came home?
Westerfield is supposed to be a smart guy - he's an engineer. Why do you take blood stained clothes to a dry cleaner, instead of throwing it away? He had all weekend to get rid of stuff. Why take it to the cleaners?
Have you ever seen a picture of Danielle in which she is NOT wearing that hideous choker?
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No. Then you changed the subject.
Stick to the subject. Can someone my child comes in contact daily with be a child molester ? If the answer is yes, then I feel obliged to take reasonable precautions.
It really is quite off topic to expound on all the false stories because proving them does nothing to disprove that there is a danger that my children can be abused.
If we change the subject to one that has the same principals involved you might be less emotional about this subject and can see the issue clearer. You seem so set on the issue I fear you might miss the relevance of this simple analogy. But here goes.
Do you lock your doors ? If you say yes, I am willing to bet the chances that locking your doors stops you from being attacked are too slim to be statistically significant. So, why change your life style just because you read some guy in the next town had a intruder, even if the report was later proven to be false ?
The reason is simple. It isn't that big a change. Its a small thing. seeing that my children are in a safe environment doesn't require me to change my life style. It just requires asking questions and applying common sense to situations. For example, if my son goes camping with Boy Scouts I want to know there will be more than one adult there and I want to know that he is not sleeping with a child much older than him.
Little children sleep HARD. Haven't you seen children her age be picked-up and brought in the house from a car ride without waking up?
AND THAT alisa, is what the plea bargaining is all about. A ring of "lifestyle" perverts in San Diego, whose operations behind the closed gate communities is now strongly suspected to involve underage children. It's gonna get messy. The neighbor might have moved the body AFTER the kid died.. "little blood found in his camper" says something. If there was only trace blood in the camper, she was NOT killed there. I STRONGLY suspect the girl died at home, at the hands of non-strangers, in a sex cult ritual... and that westerfield was the participant who got rid of the body.
We have not heard a cause of death yet... I suspect it may NOT be as simple as "westerfield" did it. I think it is mom and dad, and their 'party' friends. We shall see.
Don't stick words in my mouth! I never condemned anyone for being a Christian! I also didn't say Mr. Yates played a role in the death of his children.
I do think it is quite strange the ease with which he forgave his wife and ran to her defense after she killed his five children. There is something not right with his behavior, and I can't put it into words, but I know I'm not alone in seeing it. I don't know what the Yates were like in private, but in public Mr. Yates looks to me as if he has many of the same problems as his wife.
But any reasonable consideration that the sick, twisted, perverse lifestyle of the van Dams might mean they may have played a role in their daughter's death--that's just outrageous!
I can only comment on what I have seen of the van Dams in public. I don't know what goes on to the van Dam's home and neither do you. There are rumors, but with the tabloid aspects this case has taken on, many of those rumors are likely B.S.
That said, however, don't get me mixed up with the professional apologists. If Danielle's parents - by some unlikely stretch - turn out to have played a role in this, damn them.
But I don't see it happening.
I searched 13 bible versions on the term "love conquers" and the searches returned 0 occurances.
Do you have alot of experience in that regard?
How embarassing it would be to frame someone, only to find they have an airtight alibi. In O.J.'s case the timeline was so tight there was no way the police could be sure his alibi wouldn't hold up. In fact, they had every reason to believe he was actually out of town.
Because some people seem to have trouble understanding the difference between a baby and a grown woman.
All of these females are, or would have been, murdered by perverts.
All are or were females,but only one was a baby. As for your statement about perverts goes,you no doubt consider most people to be perverts.
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