Posted on 03/01/2002 7:36:24 AM PST by FresnoDA
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...
And who died and made YOU Queen of the Universe? Am I supposed to check with you from now on before I rent a movie or go out at night? What time am I supposed to come home,mother?
I am openly admitting that I DO NOT check on my children in their beds after leaving them home with their DADDY. I go out almost every Friday night with gal friends, sometimes to restaurants, movies, big sales, or craft/quilting in the church basement. And I NEVER check on my four babies when I get back, unless my spouse specifically requests that I do, because he thought someone was feverish or whatever. I assume that my husband is a competent, caring father who knows how to tuck his children into bed. We assume that when we tuck them in and close their doors that they are safe for the night.
Are you shocked enough yet! LOL
The media sensationize those cases where people in positions of trust have betrayed that trust, for two reasons: First, it sells papers ("Man bites dog" gets more play than "dog bites man.") Second, because their agenda is to destroy the venerable, traditional institutions that have been pillars of moral public and private life in our society.
They are Marxists, fundamentally, and it suits their ultimate aims to demonize Church, heterosexuality and morality.
Thus, as an example from a different case you have the homosexual martyr, Matthew Shepard--who was cruising for some gay action and bit off more than he could chew--and the near-simultaneous ignoring of the death of the seven-year-old boy in Arkansas at the hands of two homosexuals.
IOW, it isn't that what you fear most CAN'T happen, but that in reality it is far less likely to happen than you have been led to believe.
And so, you'll see a complete playing-down of the van Dams' alleged sexual adventuring, and a playing-UP of the Yates' fundamentalist Christianity. The two cases serve as icons for--or against--the Leftist media's campaign of misinformation.
And as I said, many of you people fall for it on a regular basis.
What? What are you talking about?
Although... if either of you has any hints... I think sneakypete is gunning for me.
Successful searchers guided by 'angel' By Susan Gembrowski and Brian E. Clark UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITERS March 1, 2002 Shawna Miller just knows her sister, missing for 16 years and feared dead, helped guide her search team to Danielle van Dam's body. "I truly believe she was my angel," said Miller, barely able to contain her tears yesterday. Two men in Miller's group, Karsten Heimburger and Christopher Morgan, found the 7-year-old's body Wednesday in a spot thick with brush off Dehesa Road, east of El Cajon. The group had searched the area for nearly three hours, and some searchers had gone home. For more than three weeks, thousands of volunteers organized by the Danielle Recovery Center in Poway had undertaken a heartbreaking mission, checking thousands of acres of brush and desert. Miller has lived with the pain of a missing relative since Oct. 23, 1985, when her sister, Mary Colette Rawlinson, then 19, was last seen. Her sister disappeared during the three-year period in the mid-1980s when more than 40 prostitutes and drug abusers were murdered in the San Diego region. Police didn't seem interested in finding her, Miller said. Her sister's roommate was found decapitated nine months later. Looking for Danielle was therapeutic, said Miller, a 28-year-old Crest resident. She had participated in three other searches in the Kitchen Creek area of East County. "I found a little bit of peace," she said. "We were all very elated we found her, but at the same time we found a child no longer breathing." On the day of the Dehesa Road search, when Miller had walked back to her car to recheck maps, the two members of her search team called her cell phone to say they had found a body. Heimburger also called 911, and the group waited for police, as they had been instructed to do. Wednesday's search was the first time Heimburger and Morgan, friends since junior high, had looked for Danielle. "I'm glad to be able to be considered a part of that wonderful crew," said Heimburger, 31, of University City. Morgan, 31, of Hillcrest, said: "I'm just overjoyed that the family had closure. That's the main focus. They don't know what happened, but they know where their baby girl is." The searchers declined to talk about what they saw. Miller also wouldn't discuss what she said to Danielle's parents, Brenda and Damon van Dam. "Out of respect for the family, and I don't want to compromise the case," Miller said. The search team had dwindled to five people from 13 when the body was found at 2:05 p.m. "Now, at the very least, the family can have some kind of closure," said Jill Ward, a volunteer and neighbor of the van Dams' who worked at the Danielle Recovery Center. "Of course we all wanted to find her alive. But now, as horrible as this ending is, they will be able to move on." Ward, whose 9-year-old daughter attends Danielle's school and whose family lives two streets away, was one of a score of searchers who stopped by the recovery center on Poway Road yesterday. They paid their respects, delivered flowers, dropped off bright yellow vests and consoled one another. They were joined by Brenda and Damon van Dam and their two sons, Derrick, 9, and Dylan, 5, about 11 a.m. The family stayed for several hours, met with San Diego police officials and thanked searchers for their efforts before leaving without speaking to reporters. The van Dams and volunteers were led in a prayer circle by the Rev. Joseph Acton of St. Timothy's Episcopal Church in Rancho Peñasquitos. "Brenda told us that 'love conquers evil,' " Acton said, speaking in front of a tall poster board covered with more than 100 photos of Danielle. "And that her family's thanks went out to everyone who helped them in the search for their daughter." Michael Lemire, who spent nearly three weeks in the search effort, said there were many tears in the prayer circle. "A lot of emotions were loosed," said Lemire, a musician who lives near Mount Shasta. He was performing in Alpine when he heard Danielle was missing and came to help. Fiona Oberrick, who helped direct the recovery center efforts, said she hoped she would never have to help look for a kidnapped child again. "But I think everyone who participated would do it again in a heartbeat," she said. "The feelings are terribly bittersweet today, but we are all glad that we could help bring Danielle home to her family." The van Dam family plans to hold a memorial service for Danielle, though no date has been chosen, said Diane Halfman, director of the recovery center. They have asked that people send donations to a Danielle memorial fund at the Community Bible Church, 9919 Carroll Center Road, San Diego, CA 92126. The recovery office will remain open for another week, Halfman said. The searchers in Miller's group plan to keep in touch long after that, Miller said. "The moment we found her, we became a family," she said. Miller said she hopes the effort to find Danielle will be the model for other searches of missing children around the country. "Organized searches do get results," she said. "Get out there and rattle every stone and look under every bush and you'll find what you're looking for. There is power in the masses." Brenda told us that 'love conquers evil - Scripture Reference Needed Please? |
I'm speaking for myself, but I would guess others feel this same way.
No, they should not be arrested for the death of their daughter. They did not do the deed. In all likelihood Westerfield did it, and as he is a white male, he will probably be convicted for it if the evidence is sufficient (NOTE: I'm not saying "because he's a white male he'll be convicted no matter what." I'm saying "because he's a white mail he won't be able to hide behind minority privilege like O. J. or (potentially) Andrea Yates.")
These people NEED to be held up as an example of moral turpitude, though, and how such reckless living can have disastrous though unintended consequences.
Therefore, while I don't believe these people are in any way CRIMINALLY liable, I believe they share a MORAL responsibility for what happened, assuming that the charges they were regularly "swinging" and thus neglecting their children are true.
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Thanks for your response. This could be a good discussion in another venue, but I don't want to disrupt this thread.
But... if you found the front door open in the middle of the night, you'd probably check on your babies, right after you closed the door, right? Not that you'd be a bad parent if you didn't, but it would probably be hard to fall asleep until you checked, right?
I am just GUESSING,but I suspect that since there were other INVITED guests inside the house,they may have thought somebody innocent opened the door. Even if the rumors about the party in the garage are true,I think it is safe to assume that people were leaving the garage at various times to get a drink,use the toilet,or even step outside for a breath of fresh air. This is NOT a high-crime neighborhood they live in,and they didn't worry about it.
Like I said above,I don't KNOW any of this. I'm just guessing.
Since homosexuals make up only, at most, 2% of the population, that figure is staggering, and it's yet another example of unexamined truths that our media will consciously cover up.
But then,what would we talk about? ;-)
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