Bush Administration Lawyers Defending Hillary - Gratis

NewsMax ^ | 2/21/02 | Limbacher

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

If there ever was a vast right wing conspiracy, this much is now clear: it certainly never included President Bush - whose Justice Department is now defending New York Sen. Hillary Clinton in a lawsuit brought by Clinton White House whistleblower Sheryll Hall and Judicial Watch.

Over their objections, "the Bush Justice Department represents Hillary Clinton in this lawsuit free of charge, saying that it is in its 'discretion' to represent private parties," the legal watchdog group said in a press release Wednesday.

Hall was the White House computer expert who alleged that Mrs. Clinton was part of a conspiracy to force her out of her job after she told investigators about a data base compiled on the former first lady's instructions that illegally used White House social lists for Democratic Party fund-raising.

Hall also exposed the White House e-mail scandal, where millions of subpoenaed e-mails on some of the most serious Clinton scandals were withheld from investigators.

But despite her heroic efforts to expose Clinton White House wrongdoing, Justice Department lawyers were arguing against Hall yesterday - and instead for Hillary Clinton, a sight that was nearly too much to take for Judicial Watch Chairman Larry Klayman.

"I had to shake my head in wonderment at the sight of the Bush Justice Department working hand in hand with the DNC to defend the Hillary Clinton-led conspiracy to use the White House computer systems for illegal fund-raising," he complained.

"Rather than improperly giving Hillary Clinton free legal representation in this private lawsuit, the Bush Justice Department ought to be prosecuting her for this illegal database and retaliation."

[Twodees]

Yes, Klayman provides the perfect diversion in the minds of the Busbots. No matter what Bush says or does, the shortcomings of other people are of much more importance to these pompom shakers.

[Twodees]

Good questions, TC.

[BeAChooser]

I find it interesting that those on this thread supporting the administration's position were quick to turn the focus of this thread onto Larry Klayman

And they NEVER answer the question why NOTHING has been done about the Riady Non-Refund. There is a instance where SOMEONE clearly broke the law. Either Riady lied in court under a plea agreement where if he lies he looses that agreement, or several people in the Clinton and DNC campaign organizations broke the law and did NOT return the ILLEGAL money they got from Riady as they claimed to have done. One or the other. No other option. Yet NOTHING has been done to either Riady or those campaign staffers. Every single one of the Klayman attackers won't answer this question. They are all RUNNING ... from the facts ... just like, curiously, democRATS are known to do when confronted with facts they can't explain.

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

"Hillary wouldn't have been qualified to be viewed as a federal employee."

When she attempted to create a national healthcare plan, how did that affect her role as a federal employee?

[RLK]

"In the West Texas energy business, George W. Bush started out researching who owned mineral rights. He later traded mineral and royalty interests and invested in drilling prospects. He had started his own oil and gas company by 1978, taking $17,000 from his education trust fund to set up Arbusto Energy (arbusto means Bush in Spanish). The company fell on hard times when oil prices fell. He made several attempts to revive the business, first by changing the company's name and later by merging with other companies. In 1983, Bush’s company was rescued from failure when Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation, a small oil firm owned by William DeWitt and Mercer Reynolds, bought it. Bush became chief executive officer. Harken Energy Corporation acquired Spectrum 7 in 1986, after Spectrum had lost $400,000. In the buyout deal, Bush and his partners were given more than $2 million worth of Harken stock for the 180-well operation.

---------------------------------------

In short, Bush's business ventures were a complete fraud in which he lost other people's money and wound up with millions of dollars for doing it because he was the vice president's, and later the president's kid. He's sill the same screw-up he always was. If anyone points out the obvious truth, they are acused of being unpatriotic pathological Bush-haters working for Gore or Buchanan. The Texas Bush operation had no more substance to it than the Arkansas Clinton operation. Spitooie.

[Honorary Serb]

Taxpayer money should NOT be used to defend the muslim-shilling, Serb-hating, anti-Christian WITCH Hillary Rodham Izetbegovic Khomeini!!!.

Instead, we should do an exchange--have Hillary replace Slobo in the defendant's dock of the kangaroo "court" in the Hague, and free Slobo!!

Let Senator Khomeini explain to the "court'" and the world the REAL reason why clinton unjustly attacked the Serbs in March 1999, and her role in it!! I think that that would be TRULY embarassing for her, among others!!!

[WhiteGuy]

I'm with you pal!

[Twodees]

She wasn't an employee, according to her heinous. And here I was thinking that you were at least commenting on my pitiful little attempt at humor. ;-)

[mrsmith]

Cheryl Hall was a Civil Service employee.

The Bush DOJ is defending a ruling on Civil Service employees rights.

Hillary is irrelevant.

[mafree]

Bump.

[mrsmith]

.

The administration is in this case because it is a Civil Service employment matter: that Civil Service employees must take their complaints before the Civil Service Review Board- not a court.

Cheryl Hall was a Civil Service employee.

It would seem, given the circumstances, that Cheryl could make claims under other law- I don't know why she hasn't -or wasn't able to.
Link to the case is at reply 167.

Now, you kooks go back to having your ball....

[mrsmith]

The Fourth Circuit appeal decision (much better written): HERE

"Hall contends that the CSRA does not preclude her Bivens action because although the CSRA provides for administrative or judicial review of the action taken against her, her Bivens claim is not against her supervisor. Hall's argument is without merit, however.
The salient fact here is that the wrongful acts Hall alleges were taken against her arose out of her federal employment relationship. Because they did arise out of her federal employment, Bush and Zimbelman dictate that Hall's claim is precluded."

This is cool- the judges made a list of the CSRA violations by Clinton's bunch:
"...In any event, we note that the CSRA appears to provide a remedy for all of the actions on which Hall premised her S 1985(1) claim.
See 5 U.S.C.A. S 2301(b)(2) (West 1996) (stating that federal employees "should receive fair and equitable treatment in all aspects of personnel management");
5 U.S.C.A. S 2302(b)(3) (West 1996) (prohibiting "repri- sal for the refusal . . . to engage in . . . political activity");
5 U.S.C.A. S 2302(b)(8)(A)(i) (West 1996) (prohibiting reprisal for the "disclosure of information . . . which the employee . . . reasonably believes evi- dences" the "violation of any law, rule, or regulation");
5 U.S.C.A. S 2302(b)(9)(D) (West 1996) (prohibiting reprisal for "refusing to obey an order that would require the individual to violate a law");
Fausto, 484 U.S. at 446 (describing 5 U.S.C.A. S 2302 as prohibiting "unlawful dis- crimination, coercion of political activity, nepotism, and reprisal against so-called whistleblowers"). "

[Twodees]

[Now, you kooks go back to having your ball]

It doesn't occur to you to question the effect of this ruling or why the DoJ should expend resources in defending it, does it? You'd better think twice before referring to your fellow FReepers as "kooks", boy. You just never know when you'll have to face us at a FReep.

Of course, you might just feel secure in your insults by the fact that you never plan on attending any FReep in the future. That would make you something less than a FReeper, wouldn't it?

[Hildy]

THis is why Campaign Finance REport, any CFR, will not work. They protect their own. If they sent ANYONE to jail for improper fundraising, there would be no need for Reform. But alas, the fish rots from the head down.

[mrsmith]

Your anger at me for finding out why the DOJ is in this case should be directed at those who encouraged you in concocting a fantasy without first looking at the facts..

If you stick around FR a while and you'll find it's best to just admit your errors.

Cheer up, there are plenty of kooky theories that can't be so simply blown away by facts.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...this is part of a persistent Bush pattern in which the Clintons have remained unconfronted....

You're one hundred per cent correct, RLK.

However we have a problem on this website with some fellow Freepers who have their ego restricted in its ability to manoevre, given their previous laudatory posts about the president. I guess all we can do now is, show a little compassionate conservatism, as these rusted-on Bushies move out of denial.

[RLK]

The Bushies are desperately attempting to create a messian in George Bush and are deep into self-deception in that attempt. There is nothing that can be done about it.

[Quix]

I KNEW THE COUNTRY HAD FALLEN DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE, But Alice!!! this is outrageous. Sigh.