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RUSH TO DUB: IT'S GUT CHECK TIME ( Stand up for free speech. Veto this bill Mr. President)
rushlimbaugh ^ | 2/15/2002 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/16/2002 7:27:55 AM PST by TLBSHOW

Today, ladies and gentlemen, you cannot shout "Freedom!" in a crowded election. That's what this phony campaign finance reform bill will mean if it becomes law, which is why there is a huge debate going on inside the Bush White House over whether the president should veto or sign the bill. It appears right now the president is going to sign the thing - and this is what's troubling.

Mr. President, remember the brilliant address you made to the nation explaining our course of action in fighting world terrorism? I say the same kind of approach is called for with this deceptively named campaign finance reform bill. You enjoy an amazing level of trust with the American people. They trust you. They believe in your honesty and integrity. You could explain to them just why this bill is unconstitutional, and why it ought not ever see the light of day. The First Amendment has just been amended here in wanton violation of the Constitution.

Folks, when John McCain was running for president in the Republican primary, I said, "If Russia passed a new law that restricted free speech and competitive elections in the way that the McCain-Feingold bill does, and then claimed it was reform, our state department and human rights groups would denounce it as repression of the Russian people. The New York Times and Washington Post editorial pages would rail against these efforts as anti-Democratic - which they are." This bill is un-American, wrong and against freedom, and I say this knowing that it would make me even more powerful than I am now. Think about that.

President Bush has demonstrated that he has the resolve and the courage and the principle to face down the evil of terrorism. He's shown that he is committed to doing what's right regardless of what the European Union, congressional Democrats or even the media has to say about it. He's doing the right thing. He's following his instincts. Well, let me suggest that this assault on the Bill of Rights requires no less resolve and courage by the president to prevent a severe blow to our liberty.

To me, this is gut-check time, Mr. President. One of the major reasons you were supported over McCain back in the primary season in the year 2000 was your stand against this very bill. Stand up for free speech. Veto this bill.


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To: OldFriend
[McCain] continues to take money from sources that are the antithesis of what he is championing

Why am I not surprised?

141 posted on 02/16/2002 10:11:12 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: LS
ls Rush deserves alot of credit for his bucking the system over the years but he's really pushing it here, why doesn't he just call daily on the phone every rep. that voted for this George Bush is just one man a good one at that but the way Limbaugh characterizes him its as if he is the parties messiah. To be honest other then 94 has Rush really made a difference in terms of getting the base out in 96'98'00?? Libertarians worry me then Rush does, they cost us the senate in wash and nevada. He's living off 94 as if hes the only one that had a hand in that election.
142 posted on 02/16/2002 10:14:49 AM PST by Leclair10
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To: TLBSHOW
Sadly, there are several times Bush already has failed a gut check. From the AIDS czar to affirmative action to food stamps for immigrants to supporting Colin Powell on condoms. Politics over principle....
143 posted on 02/16/2002 10:16:24 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: baxter999,TLBSHOW
BUMP!
144 posted on 02/16/2002 10:17:24 AM PST by Paul Ross
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To: TLBSHOW
Veto this bill, Mr.President.
America is looking to you to stop this facist bill.
Stop it now, before all of what's left of our constitution is gone.
Give the left an inch, they'll take the world.
145 posted on 02/16/2002 10:21:34 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: LS
Rush, unfortunately, was wrong on the Pocket Veto issue on Friday.

pocket veto n. 1. The President's indirect veto of a bill that has been presented to him within ten days of adjournment, by the retention of the bill unsigned until Congress adjourns.

For some unexplainable lapse in talent on loan (perhaps the devilish implant), Rush espoused that if Bush didn't sign within 10 days the bill would become law.

I think that if Bush rejected this bill and cited his reasons, that it was unconstitutional, that it violated the 1st amemndment, etc. Bush would earn political capitol. He would in my eyes (and how).

What say you?

146 posted on 02/16/2002 10:22:14 AM PST by GregoryFul
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To: TLBSHOW
Right On, Rush!

My prediction:
The President will veto this nonsense and come out with a brilliant speech explaining why. He will mention how this affects all sides. It will be worded in such a way that people will forced to remember how Bush himself has been a victim of negative ads by special interests, yet the opposition had the right to do so. He will make McCain, Sheehan and all those who voted for this crap look like the petty little political punks that they are, wasting the taxpayers' money at this time of economic troubles and war on trivial jurisdiction that any fool knows will be struck down by the Supremes.
Yes, this will be great. President Bush is going to make thess weasels really look bad, just you wait and see.

147 posted on 02/16/2002 10:26:25 AM PST by putupon
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To: Major Matt Mason
not really major if you look at this bill closely it really gives W a financial edge for 04, because of his ability to do something in campaign circles called "bundling" which is a form of hard money finance, he easily put himself up 20 mill if he does decide to sign this bill. Should he sign this he'll take heat from Rush but whats Rush gonna do whine and cry for weeks like he has about the steelers claiming hes been betrayed by george bush?
148 posted on 02/16/2002 10:26:30 AM PST by Leclair10
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To: ForOurFuture
popular? where would that be? beside inside the beltway or inside the newsrooms of the media? Heck even the aclu is against this piece of garbage.
149 posted on 02/16/2002 10:30:13 AM PST by Valin
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To: Anti-Republican
Freedom is not limitless you know. What I am saying has nothing to do with the CFR issue or my support of the President. Just saying that if you think freedom is limitless, you are nuts. That's why we have laws, to limit freedom.
150 posted on 02/16/2002 10:32:26 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: TLBSHOW
Couldn't this law get passed and then say right before the next election this law would cover have Fox News or Rush Limbaugh run paid issue ads before the election in violation of the law to create a court case that gets sent to the Supreme Court? If these dupes in Congress support this bill let them change the Constitution to accomodate this law.
151 posted on 02/16/2002 10:34:15 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: TLBSHOW
Excellent statement TLBSHOW!

President Bush must see through this fog of political warfare being waged upon our freedom and cherished Constitution. He must stomp it hard with a free speech veto!

Best FReegards...Mustang sends.

152 posted on 02/16/2002 10:36:13 AM PST by Mustang
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To: TLBSHOW
My emails on the way to the WH.gov
153 posted on 02/16/2002 10:36:41 AM PST by b4its2late
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To: Major Matt Mason
Unfortunately, I think W has painted himself into a corner on this one. I think it was a major mistake for him to indicate early on that he would sign the bill.

Bush included provisos that mandated that each individual's freedom of speech would be protected (among other requirements). This bill does not respect an individual's freedom of speech, so we can expect Bush to veto it.

154 posted on 02/16/2002 10:39:08 AM PST by GregoryFul
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To: Leclair10
Leclair....

Last time I looked, it was still ok to have an opinion on matters of politics. I am guilty of not being a nose to tail GOP elephant. This country would indeed be a dangerous place if no differing opinions were tolerated. I supported Bush, voted for Bush and when he does something that I do not agree with, I surely will have an opinion and will espouse the same.

155 posted on 02/16/2002 10:40:01 AM PST by cynicom
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To: gbunch
Very well put!
I here by authorise you to give yourself a (highly coveted) attaboy.
attaboy
156 posted on 02/16/2002 10:40:59 AM PST by Valin
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To: DLfromthedesert
DL...

I want less government, smaller government, not more government and no one can say Bush has not ENLARGED the government on our backs. Anyone that calls for elimination of agencies is called a quack, idiot, etc etc. The government feeds upon people as a cancer upon its victim. Homeland security is the worst possible thing that could have been done by Bush. I fear the American people will one day rue the day this was foisted upon us.

157 posted on 02/16/2002 10:47:45 AM PST by cynicom
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To: copycat
IMHO, Bush has been rope-a doping. It's a smart strategy.

I hope your right. The polls now show his popularity to be waning slightly. He cannot possibly hope to maintain his high approval ratings.

I should have thought he would have siezed the moment on his political capital, used the bully pulpit, and advanced conservative issues and values. If he rope-a-dopes too long, the moment may have passed.

158 posted on 02/16/2002 10:50:44 AM PST by hjp
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To: DugwayDuke
I do have one question for everyone here claiming Bush should veto this bill since it is unconstitutional. So what? If it is as unconstitutional as everyone here claims, then there is no danger in signing it. When you call for a veto you only show how weak your belief in it's unconstitutionality really is.

Horse manure!!

You, sir, have a very weak understanding of how our government works.

Bush has a constitutional obligation to veto anything which reaches his desk which he suspects is unconstitutional. (The same goes for Congress -- every Congress critter has a constitutional obligation to vote against any bill which they suspect is unconstitutional).

Protecting and following the Constitution is *not* just the job of the Supreme Court.

Your post is akin to, "well, the police chief should just go ahead and do anything he wants with his department, let the courts address any abuses." Nonsense.

Furthermore, you neglect to consider the damage which could occur between the time the President signs an unconstitutional act, and the time it is finally thrown out by the courts.

159 posted on 02/16/2002 10:53:29 AM PST by Dan Day
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To: DLfromthedesert
Rush has talked about all that in previous shows, including Roe v Wade; right now he is concentrating on this issue because it is in the forefront.

I will confess to not listening to Rush regularly. I did catch bits on Thursday and Friday and my impression was that he was characterizing the campaign finance reform bill as one of the largest constitutional wrecks to have ever emanated from the Congress. Bad as the bill is, I do not see that.

In listening to Rush off and on over the years, he has never struck me as hard core on the social issues nor has me impressed me as one who is constantly question congressional authority. I have viewed him more as a republican apologist than as a constitutionalist.

Bush's education position is an example. I recall Rush extolling the President's political manuevering and not really questioning the authority by which the federal government presumes to be involved in education in the first instance.

160 posted on 02/16/2002 11:01:32 AM PST by hjp
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