Examiner columnist blasts "FreeRepugnant.com"

sf examiner ^ | Feb 15, 02 | Debby Morse

[churchillbuff]

FreeRepugnant.com

By Debby Morse Of The Examiner Staff

AFTER MY COLUMN last Friday about President Bush's decision to classify fetuses as children, I received a spate of angry mail. One kind soul e-mailed me an alert that the column had been posted on FreeRepublic.com, "The Premier Conservative News Forum," and predicted that I'd be getting "an onslaught of hate mail from rabid right-wing freaks."

(Quick glimpse at some of the messages I got: "Is that the way you spend all your time? Hating people?" "Would you look down from Heaven and defend your mother if she had aborted you?" "Your panic and fear is obvious by the way you write.")

So I thought I ought to pay a visit to the Web site. On the FreeRepublic home page, I was welcomed thus: "We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!" No objections there from me. Freedom of speech; gotta love it. And who's in favor of political fraud and corruption? Not I. Still ... I don't know why, but that "Hoo-yah!" unsettled me. (Maybe because it's like "yahoo" backwards?)

Anyway, the site is a collection of forums and postings on various umbrella topics such as foreign affairs, activism and philosophy, with links to sites like the Cato Institute (a libertarian forum on public policy), the Drudge Report, the Heritage Foundation (a conservative think tank), the Rush Limbaugh show and the Linda Tripp Defense Fund (with a post-make-over photo -- hey, why not?).

And here's the best part: It's a great opportunity to "eavesdrop" on the conversations of people who chat there, seemingly secure in the belief that they are among friends and can say whatever they want. They can! First Amendment! But, boy, a lot of what they said there about my column is even nastier than what they e-mailed to me. * * *

LET'S LISTEN IN. Breakem writes: "Come out with your legs up and let the baby go and nobody gets hurt." Clintonh8r says: "Debby's a little crampy today, huh?" MissAmericanPie wishes me this fortune: "May her uterus be as barren as her soul. I pity the unlucky man that finds his way there, or the baby that tries to find warmth, love, or life in that cold, void, steel locker she calls her uterus."

Some of the postings were so bizarre that saner heads felt obliged to butt in and warn them to cool it. Following a useless exchange of comments that fetuses are "respiring" beings, Hank Kerchief pleads: "These continued ignorant arguments are playing right into the hands of the pro-choice movement. Please think before helping to increase the number of abortions being performed every day."

One of the shoddier bits of logic came in an e-mail: "You hate President Bush because he is a conservative and a Republican. I despise you because you are a traitor to this country. You tear down a president during wartime with false charges. You may be a citizen of this country, but you are not an American. You are also a pretty lousy feminist; you promote an outdated, divisive political agenda that does not serve women. You want to deal in reality? Here is the scoop. Most of my friends and I have concluded that being home is a fabulous choice. We choose our families. You liberals choose an outdated, dangerous political agenda which certainly contributed to the 9-11 horror. Liberals elected President Clinton who 'fiddled' while bin Laden plotted. You mock the victims of 9-11 with your despicable column."

Honey, I'm going to have to revoke your license to argue.

I also received an e-mail with a photo of a very mature fetus' arm protruding through -- what? -- a hole in a pregnant belly? A bloody image meant to shock. Turns out the same photo is posted on the FreeRepublic thread about my column, but the contributor, calling himself Revelation 911, confides that it's actually a picture of in-utero surgery and that the gestation went full-term. * * *

THESE PEOPLE SEEM to hate women. Even MissAmericanPie says, "No doubt her kind are very odd, the Jane Fonda militant female type. I've always kind of pictured Eve as being like that, more feline than female, resentful and rebellious against everything she was meant to be, finding no satisfaction in anything else either."

There are a couple of ugly remarks regarding anatomy and even rape, and a bunch of digs at San Francisco. A few people suggested it was time for another earthquake here. It was supposed to be funny, but it amounts to a wish for my death. There's a lot of that among pro-lifers, I guess. Someone suggested advocates for choice should commit suicide!

After reading "arguments" like that, I'm more dedicated than ever to wanting to keep my body private.

E-mail Debby Morse at dmorse@sfexaminer.com

Read the postings at : www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/624590/posts

[Ditto]

"After reading "arguments" like that, I'm more dedicated than ever to wanting to keep my body private."

That's fine with me. I have absolutly no interest in her body, or what she does with it. But her right to privacy does not void another persons right to life, be it 6 months before birth or 6 months after birth.

[Saving Grace]

Actually, her restating Freeper comments helped expose her for what she is....I don't see where she countered what comments were made at all. Of course, she can't....because the comments were right on the mark. If it weren't a San Francisco based newspaper, a city still in a deluded, hallucinating haze from the Summer of Love, I'd say a lot of reader would be going "HooYah!" to the Freeper comments made.

[alcuin]

There is no such thing as bad publicity.

Bad publicity, in fact, should be COURTED.

But mere flashing will do.

Whatever it takes to roll back years of civility.

[copycat]

Honey, I'm going to have to revoke your license to argue.

Note how she fancies herself more powerful than the "rabble" here at FR and envisions herself in a position to control those beneath her.

[Khepera]

Too bad her link results in a bad request error.

[toddst]

"I don't know why, but that "Hoo-yah!" unsettled me."

Per your reference to this expression our Debbie didn't have a clue where it came from. Very out of touch with reality, IMHO.

[Fraulein]

Here is the link:

U.S. Out Of My Uterus Now!

[Smile-n-Win]

MissAmericanPie wishes me this fortune: "May her uterus be as barren as her soul. I pity the unlucky man that finds his way there, or the baby that tries to find warmth, love, or life in that cold, void, steel locker she calls her uterus."

I loved that post the first time I read it, and now I love it even more. Witty, eloquent, full of spirit--and it made a Liberal raving mad! Hoo-yah!

We're proud of you, Miss American Pie!

[Revelation 911]

excellent response !

heres a thread link to what right they fight for

[LRS]

Where did that come from? Isn't that typical of these people? You oppose abortion, and that means you "hate women." Or you simply disagree or have an opinion that differs from that taught at the Womens Studies department at your local college, and it means you "hate women." Kinda like if you oppose racial quotas and affirmative action, it means you "hate blacks."

The typical hypocrisy of the liberal elitist left: they start out by telling people to look at things in "shades of grey" instead of "black and white", yet they are the most "black and white" people around!

[alnick]

You know, she does have a point. The best way to respond to someone like this is with dignity and respect. This is not for her sake, but for ours. The way we interact with people with whom we disagree reflects back on us.

Commenting about how it's time for another earthquake, etc., makes her case, not ours.

I understand the anger against liberals and what they've done/are doing to our beloved country, but the fact is that when we resort to wishing for earthquakes or disparaging how ugly or fat this or that liberal is, we dilute our own arguments. We can stick to the facts of whatever issue we're arguing and retain our credibility. We have the facts on our side, remember?

I do understand venting, and I do it myself, but let's try to keep the venting issue oriented so as not to damage our cause.

[zook]

She wants us.

[MeekOneGOP]

Examiner columnist blasts "FreeRepugnant.com"

Excerpt:

AFTER MY COLUMN last Friday about President Bush's decision to classify fetuses as children, I received a spate of angry mail. One kind soul e-mailed me an alert that the column had been posted on FreeRepublic.com, "The Premier Conservative News Forum," and predicted that I'd be getting "an onslaught of hate mail from rabid right-wing freaks."

(Quick glimpse at some of the messages I got: "Is that the way you spend all your time? Hating people?" "Would you look down from Heaven and defend your mother if she had aborted you?" "Your panic and fear is obvious by the way you write.")

So I thought I ought to pay a visit to the Web site. On the FreeRepublic home page, I was welcomed thus: "We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!" No objections there from me. Freedom of speech; gotta love it. And who's in favor of political fraud and corruption? Not I. Still ... I don't know why, but that "Hoo-yah!" unsettled me. (Maybe because it's like "yahoo" backwards?)

Anyway, the site is a collection of forums and postings on various umbrella topics such as foreign affairs, activism and philosophy, with links to sites like the Cato Institute (a libertarian forum on public policy), the Drudge Report, the Heritage Foundation (a conservative think tank), the Rush Limbaugh show and the Linda Tripp Defense Fund (with a post-make-over photo -- hey, why not?).

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[Revelation 911]

Heres a link to another thead by Kattracks with some solid information on partial birth abortion. WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES DOCUMENTING THIS CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY

Cant refute the truth Debbie ?

[TxBec]

I don't know why, but that "Hoo-yah!" unsettled me. (Maybe because it's like "yahoo" backwards?)

I know what she means. The word "yahoo" unsettles me too. :)

[CIB-173RDABN]

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Free Republic is open to everyone. Anyone can register, and once registered they have full membership authority to post articles and make comments. Not everyone here is who they pretend to be (a gasp is heard, we are shocked, not everyone here is, shall I say it a conservative?)

I enjoy stopping by FreeRepublic, I enjoy reading the articles, but I enjoy the discussion that follow the articles more. Most are serious and well thought out, some are purely emotional, and a few are childish. And a very few are really mean and nasty. These are usually removed by the moderator.

I suspect that some of the really mean and nasty posts are done by people pretending to be a conservative. The same as those that would email a journalist and instead of attempting to engage them in a meaningful discussion, to simply call them names and say you hope they die soon. Personally I would not attempt to engage any liberal in any meaningful discussion as it is as pointless as trying to teach a pig how to sing. It is a waste of both your time, and it will give you a headache.

There are some on this site I look forward to reading, and there are others I skip over as soon as I see their name. Debbie shows her true nature as a journalist, to bring to the story a preconceived idea, and then find proof to support it. She believes this site is full of mean right wing nuts, and found proof.

If she would have visited this site with an open mind, and spend more than the few minutes it took to grab the quotes she was looking for, she may have found what I found, a forum of reasonable people, discussing the issues of our day (much like we do at work, or when we get together with our friends) most from a (self defined) conservative viewpoint. Only this group has what, 100,000 members?

Sorry Debbie, it is your loss, not ours.

[Ima Lurker]

"FreeRepugnant.com"

LOL.....When people start resorting to name calling you know you are doing something right!!!

[Khepera]

There is an even better reason to not have an abortion and I will present it here:

For the strong among you try This link Think about Live Birth Abortion because its going on right now. Dr. Tiller specializes in Late term Abortion.

Many patients request a remembrance of their baby to take home with them. when they have Late Abortion Care. At Women's Health Care Services, our Fetal Indication Termination of Pregnancy program involves managing the pregnancy by the premature delivery of a stillborn. On the first day of the process, an injection of a medication is made into the baby to assure that it will be stillborn.

Dr. George Tiller, M.D., DABFP

What Abortion looks like

If you have trouble seeing these pictures then I suggest you need to

Picture Jesus

Hello? Is this the Rotweiler Womans Progressive Health center? It is? Is Dr. Tiller there? He is? Can you give him a message? You will? What? No! I'm not a patient but I need to talk to him about my Mommy. Yes, Yes thats right I'll hold.

Dr Tiller? Hi My Name is Sheri and you saw my mommy in there a couple of years ago! Yes she's fine. No you didn't get to give her an abortion. No, she is OK. No, those Religious people talked to her after her first visit to you and she was drawn to Jesus Christ. I just wanted you to know if it where up to me you would be on trial for murder! Hello? Hello? Dr. Tiller?

Dang he hanged up on me!

[swampfox98]

"Hoo-yah!" unsettled me. (Maybe because it's like "yahoo" backwards?)

No, its a secret code meaning: "All idiot liberal women writers should move to some muslim dominated country where they can "enjoy" the benefits of "female castration" at the hands of the enlightened men there. Then you idiots will find out what the real world is like.

[uglybiker]

....I don't see where she countered what comments were made at all.

I noticed that as well.