Posted on 02/15/2002 6:40:26 AM PST by healey22
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:37:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I just talked to a charming lady, who knew exactly what I was talking about, even mentioning a bill number (245?, anyone heard of it?).
LTS
I agree with the giving Vote to another candidate/party part, but I don't think I would go as fas as giving the Libertarians the vote. Doesn't their party's platform condone open borders? Not being a Libertarian I may be misinformed.
We have the equivalent of 9 major cities of illegal aliens in our country already, with approximately another million entering every year.
The question in my mind is, will the rest of America wake up to this titanic invasion before its to late? Unfortunately, I am not confident of this.
But go where? They pretty well have it sewed up for whomever vote. They are taking us down incrementally.
Its becoming inordinately clear that we need a party that is for Americas best interest, and that is willing to stop this masssive invasion, deport these millions that are already here, reduce government by 75 percent, and either abolish or dramatically reduce the IRS. These two beltway parties will never consider these issues.
"Its becoming inordinately clear that we need a party that is for Americas best interest, and that is willing to stop this masssive invasion, deport these millions that are already here, reduce government by 75 percent, and either abolish or dramatically reduce the IRS. These two beltway parties will never consider these issues."
Absolutely correct.
And why we are doomed as a nation.
--Boris
Agreed, however I would hazard a guess and say that if a bill was passed giving illegals in this country amnesty, Pat Bucannons party would probably rival both the Republican and Democratic party overnight. One thing that neither party seems to realize is most voters in this country do not want Illegals given any sort of amnesty, in fact I dare say most want the borders better patrolled and illegals deported. After 9/11 the silent majority is becoming much more vocal.
As a side note, I have always voted for the Republican candidate, as long as his/her views closely matched mine, except for one time when I voted for William Shaefer as mayor for Baltimore(I lived in the city up until the time it started to get really bad, which was about the time Shaefer left).
And like campaign finance reform is politically motivated discussion behind our backs:
I expect to further confuse the conservatives, Pres. Bush will emphasize the [potentially ineffective] use of troops at the border will be to buy off their concerns while at the same time opening the floodgates.
The troops will be holding the door open.
Losing the borders is the way America loses its identity. The NWO is just about here.
Here is a recent note from George Putnam on what is happening -
NewsMax-Putnam E-mail Newsletter February 15, 2002 One Reporter's Opinion: Castaneda: "It's the whole enchilada or nothing" (7-02) It is this reporter's opinion that one must look behind the change of government in Mexico to seek the real power. After 70 years of corruption and tyrannical rule by the PRI, we welcome President Vicente Fox. But let's take another look. Is America negotiating away her sovereignty? I look askance at Fox's foreign minister, Jorge Castaneda and his brazen statements. At a meeting of Latino journalists in Phoenix, Castaneda made it clear that he would brook no compromise. Looking American journalists squarely in the eye, Castaneda said, "It's the whole enchilada or nothing; we can't slice it one piece at a time." What is it that is included in Castaneda's list of demands? Basically, he wants a complete surrender of U.S. sovereignty over immigration policy. America must legalize all Mexican illegal aliens, loosen its already lax border enforcement, establish a guest worker program in the midst of an economic downturn, and exempt Mexican immigrants from U.S. visa quotas. Not only that, but the demand that Mexicans living in the U.S. receive health care provided by the American taxpayer and in-state college tuition. Speaking in Tijuana, Castaneda became even bolder; he aptly described such demands with this statement: "We must obtain the greatest number of rights for the greatest number of Mexicans in the shortest time possible." Mind you, Castaneda is referring to rights for Mexicans in the U.S. - NOT in Mexico! Perhaps we'd better understand Castaneda when we reflect upon some of his statements when he was identified as a Marxist. He wrote in his book "The Economics of Dependency," "Democracy is in absolute contradiction with capitalism." Castaneda is quoted as saying, "Vicente Fox is exactly where he wants to be on open borders, setting the agenda in Washington and Canada" and he added, "These are not negotiating proposals; these are big ideas -- a vision -- some will fly, some will not. I learned from him that he will bring a new emphasis to overseeing Mexico's 50 consulates in the U.S. and will try to insure better treatment of Mexicans living in the U.S." -- the same Mexicans who send billions of dollars home every year. "Castaneda's attitude and writings have been fairly anti-U.S.," says Roger Noriega, Senior Staffer on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. "Inasmuch that Mexico's relations to the U.S. is so important, we are hoping for someone in the Foreign Ministry who can play a constructive role in that relationship," Noriega adds, "Oh yes, that may happen, but it remains to be seen whether Castaneda can put aside his anti-U.S. prejudices and work with us." Plain to see Jorge Castaneda, Vicente Fox's foreign minister, has spoken. Will George W. and the rest of us take him at his word?
Will we ever tighten up the borders with Mexico when ME terrorists come through there? A country without borders (deliberately porous with those who get through made legal)is no longer a country.
The world government elites want no borders and legalization of illegal immigrants to tear down nationalism and buildup allegiance to a world government. It will become easier to institute a global tax on trade this way top pay for their greater world controls.
Do the Rs and Ds still want a flow of cheap labor from Mexico, is this what this is about? Or, are the R's and D's fighting for votes in elections from those who would be made legal? Or are both reasons going on here?
That's why I changed my registration from Republican to American Independent. Of course the news media completely ignores or downgrades any party other than Repub or Dem.
RECONQUISTA: MEXICO'S ATTEMPT TO ANNEX THE SOUTHWEST
There are two ways that you can gain territory from another group. One is by conquest. That's essentially the way we took California from Mexico and... Texas as well. But what's going on now may end up being a kind of recolonization of the Southwest, because the other way you can regain territory is by population infiltration and demographic dominance .... The United States will be faced with the problem that Canada has been faced with... and which our system is not prepared to accomodate.
Dr. George Fredrickson, Edgar E. Robinson Professor of United States History, Stanford University
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