House Passes Campaign Finance Bill

CNSNews.com ^ | 2/14/02 | Susan Jones

[mountaineer]

Good luck on finding a W.Va. conservative to run against Humphreys or Workman. (It's not my district or I'd consider it).

[AZPubbie]

Take a look at zonitics.com for a report on how McCain's unconstitutional bill carves out one of his biggest groups of contributors while shutting down free speech for everyone else.

[Vinomori]

thanks....I'm with you on JD

[ImpBill]

I am sorry, but I will not play that game. I am extremely disappointed in Mr. Thune and it speaks volume concerning his integrity.

Either he believes in the Constitutional guarantees or he doesn't and to play politics with them makes me want to ask what else is he willing to risk.

What is wrong with standing on principle? What you are saying is that he cast his vote for political gain. Well, my friend, that is what is wrong with the nation in the first place. Not much principled leadership these days.

You may be able to justify the vote and that is your right (so far), but I can't and won't. I don't know what I will do come November but my emotional first response is to sit this one out. To my mind he (Thune) is no better than the man he would replace when it comes to principle, honor, and integrity.

Again, I am not at all suggesting that you shouldn't give a wink and a nod and support the man. I am just getting to the end of my rope on voting against the least preferred candidate. Hopefully there is a line that you too won't cross for political power, but this may not be it. I think it is for me.

[ImpBill]

You hit a home run JH2.

Tonight I am really sick, as the man I hoped to support in the opening battle towards the ultimate removal of Tom Daschle from power, my Congressman at Large, John Thune, for purely politcal reasons, voted with the Constitutional Pirates.

From what I have gathered so far, he will get away with crapping on his base. I can't describe adequately the feelings I currently have. It is akin to the mourning process.

Are there no real leaders out there any longer who stand on principle? Is every position taken for purely political gain? And worse, where are the people demanding principles before partisan party political power?

Thanks to Mr. Thunes action last night, this night I have similar feelings to which I felt, when it became crystal clear that Trent Lott was not going to allow a "real trial" in the Senate Impeachment dog and pony show.

I am back to tagging my rants with ...

"America ... Where are you now?"

[ImpBill]

"No more fight left. Not for these traitors."

Trust me, you are not alone.

I was a card carrying, volunteer working, involved member of the G.O.P. for 32 years. When Trent Lott made the decision to have a dog and pony show instead of a real Impeachment Trial just to placate Daschle, I shortly there after re-registered with "Party Affiliation - NONE". I continued to support GOP candidates with my vote and financial support in this last election cycle for Keyes first in the primary and then GW in the general. But I did so as a little "r" republican and not as a "R" Republican.

I live in South Dakota and there is no stronger an Anti-DemocRAT than I. I have been supporting John Thune's bid for the Senate to 1) unseat Tim Johnson (D) but more importantly 2) set up 2004 to rid ourselves of Tom Daschle. I had even gone to the point of soliciting clients of mine from outside of SD, whom I knew from association over time, were like minded conservative/traditionally valued Americans, to offer financial support to Mr. Thune.

John Thune voted for CFR. I feel as you, the fight is gone and no longer will I battle for those who won't at the minimum work to insure that my right to do so isn't taken from me.

"No more fight left. Not for these traitors." Says it all.

[ImpBill]

Is there a rule that says on election day you have to be a big "R" Republican to vote for GOP candidates? Try it you might like it. Perhaps if we can get enough traditionally valued conservatives to re-register without party affiliation the "go along to get along" bunch will get the message. If they don't what have you lost?

[JohnHuang2]

Re: #125 -- very well stated.

FILIBUSTER MAY STYMIE Shays-Meehan bill: Campaign reform heads to Senate

[JohnHuang2]

You hit a home run JH2.

Thanks, my friend.

[JohnHuang2]

Check this out, my friend:

FILIBUSTER MAY STYMIE Shays-Meehan bill: Campaign reform heads to Senate

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

1-202-456-1414, 1-202-456-5594 - PHone numbers.

Almost ALL can make a CALL! Please, Mr. President, veto this horrendous legislation!

[lakey]

Thanks for the ping.

But I can't stand J.D. Wouldn't vote for him as dog catcher.

[B. A. Conservative]

Sir, you have the government you deserve and Democrats will be dancing on your grave.

[B. A. Conservative]

I see a different path. I think we need for one state to secede. And I don't think it will matter whether it is a coastal state running left or a conservative state wanting to restore freedom. If there is a Republican, as now, in the Whitehouse they will be allowed to go in peace. I think that will trigger an Avalanche of individual and groups of regional secessions. I see the US disintegrating into 5-10 much smaller sovereign countries with regional and political ties to each other. I suspect what was formerly national defense will be done by treaty, maybe even under contract with military corp.

The United States is now a passing giant still wallowing in the glory of its rise to power. Its future is measured in days rather than decades. There will be no US presidential election in 2016, unless we make substantial changes beginning now. I think it is already too late, but there will be no political possibility of making and keeping the changes required without a Term Limits Amendment. A Constitutional Convention remains the one viable chance to save the United States. And make no mistake, I think the United States is worth saving, but I believe that the last election proves there are a very large number of Americans who prefer Wonderland and Disneyland. When your heroes are Clinton and FDR instead of Washington and Jefferson, we have come a long way baby. And from the red and blue map that emerged after the election, there will be no going back. The beauty of the map is that it proved the geo-political division of the US is eminently feasible. I have come to point where I believe is preferable and desirable. Count me as a secessionist.

[Spiff]

Sir, you have the government you deserve and Democrats will be dancing on your grave.

If you're saying that it is too late to reign in government because any attempt by a Republic will cause a Democrat to win - so Republicans need to emulate the Democrats to hold power. Well, if that is the case, then it must be time to break out the muskets and pitchforks to win our individual rights back.

[B. A. Conservative]

It was the snake handlers that took the first bite of the apple.