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An Astounding Remark
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | Sheldon Richman

Posted on 02/06/2002 5:05:45 AM PST by francisandbeans

When Attorney General John Ashcroft told the nation, "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists," he wasn't blazing any new trails. He was merely doing what despots and would-be despots always do: attempting to intimidate into silence those who dare to question him.

Ashcroft's statement is one of the most astounding things to be said by a U.S. official in many years. To read it carefully — letting its full message sink in — is to be overtaken by a sense of horror that is otherwise hard to imagine. Every American should be offended to hear the government's chief law enforcement officer equate public expressions of concern about the threats to liberty from drastic "anti-terrorism" measures with joining al-Qaeda. Does Ashcroft have such a low estimate of the American people's intelligence?

Perhaps he needs to become acquainted with Thomas Jefferson. It was Jefferson who said, "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." That's true in the best of times. It's doubly true during war — especially an Orwellian undeclared, open-ended crusade against an enemy as nebulous as "international terrorism." Ashcroft is a perfect Orwellian character. In 1984, Big Brother told his people that "freedom is slavery." It follows that slavery is freedom. Ashcroft refuses to concede that the Bush administration is seeking to curtail liberty in the least. Those who see diminished liberty must be hallucinating, seeing "phantoms of lost liberty."

So when the president unilaterally abolishes due process for noncitizens, we are only imaging an erosion of liberty. And when Congress passes, without even reading, the administration's alleged anti-terrorism bill, which expands the government's powers of surveillance, permits secret searches of homes, and weakens judicial oversight of law enforcement, again, we are deluded if we think freedom is evaporating. I write "alleged anti-terrorism bill" because the new law does not restrict the expanded powers to suspected terrorists, but applies them to any criminal activity. This is a classic power grab under the cover of an emergency. September 11 has given policymakers a chance to bring down from the shelf every new police power they have wanted for years. They assume no one will question the need for such broad powers, and if anyone does, they can shut him up by portraying him as an ally of the terrorists. The game is rigged in favor of power.

It is no comfort that the erosion of liberty in the name of fighting terrorism has a bipartisan cast to it. Democratic Senator Charles Schumer of New York has given his blessing to oppressive government with an op-ed in the Washington Post titled "Big Government Looks Better Now." As Schumer puts it, barely concealing his glee, "For the foreseeable future, the federal government will have to grow... The era of a shrinking federal government has come to a close." Of course, the senator was trying to enlarge it long before September 11.

Schumer insists that only the federal government "has the breadth, strength and resources" to keep us secure. Forgive me for asking, but did we not have a federal government on September 11? Was it not in charge of our security on that date? Then what is the senator talking about? And if it isn't impolite to ask, just where does the federal government get all those resources? Last time I checked, it didn't produce anything. It simply took resources from the people who did produce them.

Once we understand that all government possesses is the power of legal plunder our whole perspective changes. Schumer insists that "the notion of letting a thousand different ideas compete and flourish — which works so well to create goods and services — does not work at all in the face of a national security emergency. Unity of action and purpose is required, and only the federal government can provide it." But he’s got it wrong. Security is a service. Competition and innovation are valuable in the effort to keep ourselves safe. The last thing we need is central planning. That’s what we had on September 11.


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To: Howlin
Hey, Howlin, welcome to the club!! I am not allowed to address the Grand High Exalted Loopy, either.

It has made my days so much more pleasant, as when I see his postings I can automatically ignore them!

161 posted on 02/06/2002 7:25:57 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Jefferson Adams
As someone said above - f&b? - we are becoming a nation governed by Men rather than by Law, which is exactly what the founders of this country tried to prevent by creating a Constitutional

Ooopsy. See what happens when your phone rings when you're posting? Add "Republic" at the end.

162 posted on 02/06/2002 7:26:00 AM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Jefferson Adams
Nor will I stand for being accused of being and/or aiding terrorists because I speak out against those who are ignoring and systematically trashing the very Constitution that is supposed to be the supreme law of the land.

Obviously, in order to save the Constitution, we have to destroy it!

163 posted on 02/06/2002 7:26:46 AM PST by CubicleGuy
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To: francisandbeans
Okay. Sure.
164 posted on 02/06/2002 7:27:09 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: CubicleGuy
Obviously, in order to save the Constitution, we have to destroy it!

For the children, and for our security.

165 posted on 02/06/2002 7:27:28 AM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Jefferson Adams
I refuse to add Republic to the end of it for fear that I may be called a terrorist symapathizer.
166 posted on 02/06/2002 7:27:30 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: realpatriot71
I'm just curious, has Noelle ever committed any other crimes?

Yes. She was previously arrested for stealing merchandise from a J.C. Pennies. I'm sure she has committed many other crimes and hadn't been caught.

It's important to note these aren't just victimless drug crimes. These are crimes of theft and fraud with a victim.

Florida authorities determined that she lied to them when asked if she had any previous arrests, ANOTHER CRIME, but she was not charged with it.

167 posted on 02/06/2002 7:27:55 AM PST by NC_Libertarian
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To: Loopy
Oh, but I want to respond to you.......I really, really want to.

And I'll respond to you every single time I see you now. (BTW, you have NEVER told me not to respond to you that I recall. For some reason you have a THANG for me, don't know why, couldn't care less, but if you don't like me, I consider that a sure sign of MY intelligence.)

You may not think I'm smart, but at least I am not the one who picked LOOPY as a screen name; but at least we can put you down under the TRUTH IN ADVERTISING column, eh?

And since you think everybody who doesn't agree with you is ignorant, that includes some people on here who I think are pretty smart. I'm glad to be in that group!

168 posted on 02/06/2002 7:27:56 AM PST by Howlin
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To: francisandbeans
I refuse to add Republic to the end of it for fear that I may be called a terrorist symapathizer.

AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

There I go, howlin' in my office again! STOP THAT!!! < g >

169 posted on 02/06/2002 7:28:24 AM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: wcbtinman
You have no idea what I do or do not do.

Maybe you should think before you post, eh?

170 posted on 02/06/2002 7:29:10 AM PST by Howlin
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To: francisandbeans
Ashcroft is proving to be a great disappointment. For an Attorney General to stand up on a podium and declare that anyone who voices fear of losing freedom is in effect, conspiring with terrorists, should serve as a sign that your Liberty is already forfeit.

Presidents, Cabinet Chiefs, Generals, Supreme Court Justices and CEOs don't have "mere" opinions. Their words cause things to happen.

171 posted on 02/06/2002 7:29:17 AM PST by Wm Bach
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To: Blake#1
And what would a freedom-lover like Blake#1 propose AFTER such a listing and reporting? (Check all that apply):

____A week on the rack.

____A month in the iron maiden

____Boiling oil

____Burning pine slivers beneath the fingernails

____Magneto wired to the genitals

____3 months forced to read Blake#1's insipid and idiotic posts.

172 posted on 02/06/2002 7:29:32 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: steve-b
Frankly, this defense implies that Ashcroft's statement is a cowardly means of giving a directive without taking responsibility for any subsequent results, a la Henry II's "Will no friend rid me of this troublesome priest?"

Thats your interpretation, an unsupportable one. Apparently the only way Ashcroft can satisfy your standards is to not make public statements.

As far as I'm concerned (for example) Ashcroft was more likely talking about the ACLU types who made such a fuss about the conditions in Camp Xray that some moslim fanatics felt compelled to kidnap a WSJ reporter hostage to offer in exchange for better conditions for the prisoners.

173 posted on 02/06/2002 7:30:17 AM PST by skeeter
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To: unsycophant
OK, let me go to my file of endless bookmarks of dead links and get them for you. Would you like me to mail you some of my thoughts that I jotted down on paper but later erased as well?
174 posted on 02/06/2002 7:30:24 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: Miss Marple; DCPatriot; Dane
I don't know about you, but I'd much rather be in the 95 percent group it doesn't like.

BTW, are all these threads like this? If so, no wonder nobody votes for them..........eeekkkkkkk.

175 posted on 02/06/2002 7:31:13 AM PST by Howlin
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To: francisandbeans
Post #28 - What is refreshing is that on this thread there has been only one person who is even remotely defending Ashcroft.

Those were the days, eh? Ummm, minutes, I mean.

176 posted on 02/06/2002 7:32:35 AM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Howlin
I assume, however, you would want to fly on a plane if you're carrying. Why don't you ask Ashcroft if he'll oblige you? Be sure to give him your full name and address.
177 posted on 02/06/2002 7:32:50 AM PST by SteamshipTime
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To: francisandbeans
bttt
178 posted on 02/06/2002 7:33:52 AM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: skeeter
His words mean something. Like I said if he said that some folks are "over-reacting" or "thin skinned" then fine. He called us terrorist aiders. That's ridiculous.
179 posted on 02/06/2002 7:34:00 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: Loopy
Gong.

When you invoke names in a post and go on to discuss what those names "think", insult one of them directly without addressing it directly, and then come back to whine about how you're all misunderstood and are avoiding those names...you acknowledge that you are irrelevant.

Agreed.

180 posted on 02/06/2002 7:34:07 AM PST by unsycophant
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