Citizen of the year' denied OK to carry gun

Washington Times ^ | 1/29/02 | Margie Hyslop

[kattracks]

Donald G. Arnold is a Vietnam veteran and president of his neighborhood association. He was named a "citizen of the year" by Maryland in 2000 for his work with police in southeast Baltimore to stop drug dealers and make the city safer.

[realpatriot71]

I wonder where the statists with their, "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime," drivel are on this one . . .

[kattracks]

If you're really interested in reading the other articles you can simply click on the source at the top of the page which will take you directly to the article, and the same sidebar will appear, with links that work. I have no idea why they don't work here.

[TN Republican]

Police come from the general populace. It would be a boon for freedom if the fascist Attorney General had a harder time finding people so willing to go violate a citizen's constitutional rights.

[drZ]

it is a broader brush than mere Blasphemy

Thursday, January 17, 2002 Interpretation of law allows confiscation
MICHAEL A. SAWYERS
Times-News Staff Writer
CUMBERLAND -- Under the current interpretation by the Maryland
attorney general concerning the confiscation of firearms, citizens
who had misdemeanor transgressions at any time in the past could have
their guns taken, according to Delegate Kevin Kelly. Such
misdemeanors include

cheating, defamation of private persons,
unlawful assembly, blasphemy, profanity, common
scolding, disturbance and disorderly conduct.

[verboten]

Not to mention this whole idea violates the notion that one has payed their debt to society for breaking the rules. Serving your time should end your punishment. In America we insist on punishing forever by taking away the vote, guns, and making you register yourself with the police. And we dare call this the land of the free?

[Charles Martel]

Uh, these folks are losing their firearms rights over MISDEMEANOR CONVICTIONS, not felonies, based on the POSSIBLE MAXIMUM SENTENCE for the misdemeanor (not actual sentence).

There is no doubt... these "laws" are about one thing: creating criminals out of gun owners, for the purposes of civilian disarmament.

Take a look at the post-Lautenberg form 4473. Section #8, subpart (b) reads:

"Are you under indictment or information in any court for a crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year? An information is a formal accusation of a crime made by a prosecuting attorney."

Section No. 8, subpart (c) reads:

"Have you been convicted in any court of a crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if the judge actually gave you a shorter sentence? (See Important Notice 5 and EXCEPTION)."

The "Important Notice" mentioned in 8 (c) begins: "The transferee (buyer) of a firearm should be familiar with the provisions of law...".

Aye, there's the rub. They know that the most people still think of misdemeanors and felonies as two different things and so will fail to understand the significance of things like "possible maximum sentence".

I know this is supposedly a State matter, but is sure sounds like the illegal BATF database is being used to cross-index old criminal records.

Now... time for a brief power equipment maintenance tip!
Be sure to add fuel stabilzer to the gasoline in your wood chipper - it'll start right up when your really, really need it. ;-)

[RogueIsland]

What is legal blasphemy?

Insulting Gaia?

[RogueIsland]

Uhhh.... that sounds ridiculous. I get to lose my RKBA cause I forgot to pay a traffic ticket and was convicted of a misdeamonor count afterwards?

Are you questioning the State? You are clearly in need of "re-education". We have a camp for that.

[Liberty Ship]

Nazi Germany. Concentration Camps. Extermination Camps. Every time you think it can't happen here, look at airport security and reports like this. The government can find pleanty of folks ready to slide you into an oven if their job and retirement are at stake.

[stevio]

I live in Pennsylvania, sandwiched in between New York and Maryland. This $hit is too close to home.

[Redcloak]

Everytime I get depressed by gun laws in California, news from the People's Democratic Republic of Maryland cheers me up. (Of course, it stinks for those trapped in the gulag-by-the-bay, but them's the breaks)

[AnalogReigns]

I live in Northern Virginia--about 10 minutes from the Potomac, which is the Maryland border. I really can't understand what effect being north of that river has on their government. Virginia is one of America's most conservative states--and Maryland one of its most liberal.

Thank God I'm a Virginian!

[drZ]

A. Changing the Gun Culture

Government regulation can address many of the causes of gun injury and death, but as in most things, it cannot be the full answer. To reduce the categories of injury not reachable by government intervention or the tort system, we must, in the short term, change our culture - the culture in which the majority who do not own guns accept without question the risk of being surrounded by people who do. We must change the fact that we do not typically even think about the dangers we all face every day - the risk of taking our children shopping at a mall and having someone’s firearm accidentally discharge; the risk of going to work and having a fellow employee’s momentary rage turn lethal; the risk of a neighbor’s child finding his parent’s loaded, unlocked gun and unintentionally killing a daughter; the risk of a criminal stealing a neighbor’s gun to hold us up at gunpoint. We must change this culture of passive acceptance to one in which people view gun ownership as danger-ous and aberrant and behave accordingly. Gun ownership must go the way of smoking, which was once accepted universally and is now recognized as a harmful activity that cannot be inflicted on other unconsenting individuals.

A FAREWELL TO ARMS
The Solution to Gun Violence in America
Maryland Attorney General’s Special Report
J. Joseph Curran, Jr., Attorney General

[Redcloak]

If guns are so dangerous, as Curran alleges, then why does the government pay police to carry them? That doesn't seem like a very safe practice; kinda like paying them to run with scissors.

[Ajnin]

Police come from the general populace. It would be a boon for freedom if the fascist Attorney General had a harder time finding people so willing to go violate a citizen's constitutional rights

What exactly are saying about Police?

[pray4liberty]

Thugs in southeast Baltimore can breathe a whole lot easier now. [/sarcasm]

[gieriscm]

Another northern Virginian checking in. I grew up in Maryland. Glad I left. Virginia has lower taxes, lower crime rates, and better protects its citizens' civil rights.

[Mercuria]

OUT-FREAKIN-RAGEOUS!!!

[Mulder]

OUT-FREAKIN-RAGEOUS!!!

I wonder if Bush will bring this injustice to the attention of the American People tonight?

[Dan from Michigan]

J Joseph Curran is the biggest POS AG there is in the entire country. That jackass isn't fit to lace my boots, let alone Don Arnold's.