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To: RaceBannon
Christ died for the sins of the world, not the elect. Calvanism is wrong on that.

Amen. To quote,

ALL have sinned (Romans 3:23) and ALL we like sheep have gone astray, but the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us ALL (Isaiah 53:6). The grace of God has appeared unto ALL men (Titus 2:11). A Saviour has been provided for ALL people (Luke 2:10-11). Salvation has been made possible for ALL (John 3:16-17) and Jesus Christ is the Saviour of ALL men (1 Timothy 4:10). God desires ALL to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-4) and the Saviour died for ALL (1 Timothy 2:6; 1 John 2:2). Thus the gospel message is for ALL (Mark 16:15) and God’s gracious invitation is extended to ALL (Rom. 10:13; Rev. 22:17). ALL men everywhere are commanded to repent (Acts 17:30). ALL men from ALL nations are commanded to believe the gospel (Rom. 1:5; 16:26). Christians are commanded to go to ALL men and to beseech them to be reconciled to God (2 Cor. 5:19-20). Yes, the ALL includes you. Will you personally receive or personally reject ALL that the living God has done for you?

John 3:16. 'nuff said.

10 posted on 01/20/2002 6:03:01 PM PST by Huusker
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To: Huusker;: RaceBannon;CCWoody;rdb3
I do not believe that eithor of you guys are univeralists....I do think we would agree that the Blood of Christ blood is sufficent for all mankind..but effective only for those that come..

The question is then who comes?:>)

12 posted on 01/20/2002 6:13:29 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Huusker; RaceBannon
Christ died for the sins of the world, not the elect. Calvanism is wrong on that.

Before I address your evidence that we have it all wrong (Calvinist humor) answer me this one question: Before God spoke the very first word of creation, did He know all details of His creation from who would be saved and down even to the last detail of every single thought of all His created "dirt?

19 posted on 01/20/2002 6:37:35 PM PST by CCWoody
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To: Huusker
Amen and Amen!

Even so, come Lord Jesus

133 posted on 01/20/2002 8:41:54 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: Huusker,RaceBannon;CCWoody;rdb3;Sueann
A little bit of logic here: If Christ paid the price of eternal hell for every human, then..., how could He possibly send any of them to hell?

You say, "oh, because in their free choice they rejected the gift offered." But wait, the price of all sin, even unbelief (or the rejection of the free gift), has been fully paid! So God condemns someone a 2nd time? Double jeopardy?

No. Sufficient for all, but effective for those whom He has made alive. GOD HAS THE FREE CHOICE HERE FOLKS!

381 posted on 01/21/2002 3:09:31 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: Huusker
ALL have sinned (Romans 3:23) and ALL we like sheep have gone astray, but the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us ALL (Isaiah 53:6). The grace of God has appeared unto ALL men (Titus 2:11). A Saviour has been provided for ALL people (Luke 2:10-11). Salvation has been made possible for ALL (John 3:16-17) and Jesus Christ is the Saviour of ALL men (1 Timothy 4:10). God desires ALL to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-4) and the Saviour died for ALL (1 Timothy 2:6; 1 John 2:2). Thus the gospel message is for ALL (Mark 16:15) and God’s gracious invitation is extended to ALL (Rom. 10:13; Rev. 22:17). ALL men everywhere are commanded to repent (Acts 17:30). ALL men from ALL nations are commanded to believe the gospel (Rom. 1:5; 16:26). Christians are commanded to go to ALL men and to beseech them to be reconciled to God (2 Cor. 5:19-20). Yes, the ALL includes you. Will you personally receive or personally reject ALL that the living God has done for you?

[Husker] John 3:16. 'nuff said.

But the Calvinist, taking a cue from our former President Clinton, would say, "But that depends on what the definition of 'all' is."

469 posted on 01/22/2002 8:53:29 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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