[RnMomof7]

I do not believe that eithor of you guys are univeralists....I do think we would agree that the Blood of Christ blood is sufficent for all mankind..but effective only for those that come..

The question is then who comes?:>)

[Registered]

Post 12. Exactly. Thank the Lord for a changed heart and His irresistable Grace, for without either I am lost and condemned. This is definitely a "meaty" topic.

[RaceBannon]

I think people can get hooked on word games on this. Either Jesus died for the sins of the world or God chooses who He will save, and to hell with the rest!! LITERALLY!!

< Since a Holy, Sovereign God has the right to condemn us all, we would normally be introuble. BUT, the God of the Bible says He loved us so much that He sent His son to die for us on the cross, and that this Son died for the sins of the Whole world. So, Christ's sacrifice is sufficient for the world, the penalty has been paid.

< NOW, WHO gets this from God? Only those that have put their trust in Christ as Saviour.

So, the word game begins here: Is Christ's blood effective for the world or only those who believe!!

I dont want to get into the word game. God offered salvation TO THE WORLD, not for only a select few, so, Christ's shed blood on the cross is for whosoever will come. I suppose that only those who come, it is them only who it is effective for, but still, that blood shed was for the entire world, not just a few chosen.

[The Mayor]

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[fortheDeclaration]

The question is then who comes?:>)

anyone (whosoever) wants to!

Even so, come Lord Jesus

[veryconernedamerican]

everyone has free will