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1 posted on 01/14/2002 7:45:54 AM PST by Aleutian Longliner
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To: Aleutian Longliner
"Bio-Fraud" is catchy, I hope it has legs!

I have long suspected these "studies" that always seem to restrict, deny, and otherwise compromise citizens rights to travel on and use natural resources. I was somewhat surprised to pick up a fishing magazine recently and see an editorial to the effect of, "Holy Moses, Guys! These 'outlaw all types of fishing' groups are dead serious!" My surprise was at their surprise; you would think being "in the business" they would have taken these extremist groups seriously a long time ago....

2 posted on 01/14/2002 7:56:05 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Aleutian Longliner
I suspect the same kind of dynamic is occurring with global warming proponents. The "planted evidence" in their case are the bogus numbers they put into their inaccurate computer climate models.
3 posted on 01/14/2002 7:59:14 AM PST by Brett66
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To: Aleutian Longliner
Regarding WAFW and the Grizzly hair, the Wash Times ran an article and an editorial
4 posted on 01/14/2002 8:12:32 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Aleutian Longliner
It has been obvious for a long time that many left-wing scientists have traded in their scientific objectivity for political ideology. In addition, most university scientists are supported by government and foundation grants, and that distorts the reliability of their findings even further. For that reason, unless you know the scientist and understand his field, your are ill-advised to accept what nearly any scientist might say these days as true or objective.

On the global-warming issue, a scientist who supports the usual greenhouse-gas theories will receive generous funding and warm approval from his university colleagues. A scientist who questions global warming will get the cold shoulder from his colleagues and have his funding pulled. The same is true of many other areas where science touches on society and hotly debated political issues. Abortion is an obvious case, homosexuality is another.

5 posted on 01/14/2002 9:01:03 AM PST by Cicero
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To: Aleutian Longliner
Never thought I'd lose this much respect for biologists.
6 posted on 01/14/2002 9:06:11 AM PST by JmyBryan
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To: Aleutian Longliner;farmfriend;SierraWasp;Editor-Surveyor;Ernest_at_the_Beach
FYI
7 posted on 01/14/2002 9:22:22 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Aleutian Longliner; 1Old Pro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; a_federalist; abner; aculeus; alloysteel...
For next time, Try "Furror" instead ;-)
9 posted on 01/14/2002 2:43:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: Aleutian Longliner
What a silly article, they expected the government to hire honest scientists? Now how could that promote the agenda of the E.P.A. and U.N.?
10 posted on 01/14/2002 2:47:00 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Aleutian Longliner
Koenings said the two department biologists have now been "barred from further research work," and he and three other top scientific officials for WDFW said the department must now work hard to re-establish its public credibility.

For ninety days.

The listing of "Southern coho" was a fraud. The design of the ESU boundaries and the supporting citations of "data" for listing West Coast Steelhead as "Threatened" was a fraud.

I have the data.

12 posted on 01/14/2002 2:53:19 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Aleutian Longliner
Thanks for posting this!

Besides the eco terrorists who hate America/Americans, who else in the enviral business would benefit from Eco Fraud?

The salary of the National Wildlife Federation top executive, Mr. Mark Van Putten, was nearly a quarter of a million dollars last year. This represents a 17 percent raise over his salary the year before. Think about that the next time you contemplate your 3 percent cost of living adjustment.

If you were among those who sent in a $25 contribution to this group, do you realize it took over 10,000 of you contributing in order just to pay his salary?

The salary of the World Wildlife Fund president, Kathryn Fuller, was $241,000. The salary of the National Audubon Society president, John Flicker, was $240,000. The salary of the Natural Resources Defense Council director, John Adams, was $239,000. The salary of the Wilderness Society president was $204,000. The salary of the Defenders of Wildlife president and CEO was $201,000. Earth Justice Legal Defense Fund president, Buck Parker, was $157,000. And the Sierra Club's Carl Pope's salary was $138,000 in 1998 and listed as $199,577 in 1999, nearly a 50 percent raise. The list goes on.

Now, folks, think about it. How many of those $25 contributions does it take you as you did like I did as a young college student, send a few bucks there because you believe in what they are doing just to pay these salaries? Where are these missionary zealots who had a great idea back in the 1960s and thought we were going too far? Where are these people that were in there doing the thing because it had the burning in their heart to do it, not because it was a big business? Unfortunately, you can see new environmentalism has grown into a big growth industry.

As we can see above, Eco Fraud could be really important to these left wing envirals making some great 6 figure salaries defending the hairless lynx in our forests! Someone keeps stealing their hair, the poor critters!

I will provide the link to read where these comments came from and why they were made in a followup reply on this thread!

13 posted on 01/14/2002 2:59:50 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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bttt
15 posted on 01/14/2002 3:06:32 PM PST by a_federalist
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To: Aleutian Longliner
Bump for later. Simply amazing; the kooks were right all along about those enviro-crooks. Next thing ya know, somebody's gonna start thinking that our politicians are less than honest.
17 posted on 01/14/2002 3:24:08 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Aleutian Longliner
Do any of you really think these enviro-nazi's are going to get fired/fined/sent to prision?

I don't know, If they do I will be suprised.

Suprise me!!!

19 posted on 01/14/2002 3:33:13 PM PST by Doomonyou
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To: Aleutian Longliner
BTTT
21 posted on 01/14/2002 4:01:38 PM PST by hattend
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To: Aleutian Longliner
Koenings said the two department biologists have now been "barred from further research work," and he and three other top scientific officials for WDFW said the department must now work hard to re-establish its public credibility.

Mr Koenings, your credibility would go up a bit if you asked the two biologists to look for work elsewhere. How do we know they won't do future research work? Because you tell us so? Don't make me laugh.

22 posted on 01/14/2002 4:04:55 PM PST by hattend
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To: Sabertooth
The furore over how government biologists in Washington State contaminated an endangered-wildlife study with "planted" hair from a lynx has sent reverberations through fisheries organisations around the United States.
I wondered if this might be a relative of yours?. . .
23 posted on 01/14/2002 4:26:22 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Aleutian Longliner
The problem is far worse than most freepers realize. The fisheries I participate in are being slowly destroyed. Central planning is destroying businesses and families that live along the Gulf of Mexico. The big push now for Marine Protected Areas is almost identical to the land grab in the west. It is sad to see it happen.
25 posted on 01/14/2002 4:56:58 PM PST by Vob
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To: Aleutian Longliner
SO WHAT'S NEW.... THE SLIMEY CHARACTERS ARE CROOKS IN ANY OTHER JURISDICTION. WHERE IS THE PROFESSIONAL INTEGRITY.... PROBABLY IN HOPE, ARKANSAS.
26 posted on 01/14/2002 5:02:46 PM PST by pointsal
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