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100 Reasons Am-Air Pilot was correct in NOT ALLOWING Arab-Am Agent to fly!!
Airdisaster.com ^ | January 3, 2002 | Christopher Kilroy

Posted on 01/03/2002 2:29:46 PM PST by FresnoDA

100 reasons why the CAPTAIN should always be the FINAL AUTHORITY
on who rides (or who does not!) aboard his aircraft.

And further evidence why Political Correctness makes airline travel a perilous venture.

See FR Post at bottom of Top-100 List for previous/related comments!


1. Manhattan, New York, September 11 2001 - 4500+ Killed
Boeing 767-200s of American Airlines and United Airlines intentionally crashed into World Trade Center towers.

2. Tenerife, Canary Islands, March 27 1977 - 583 killed
KLM Boeing 747-206B collides with Pan Am Boeing 747-121 on runway

3. Tokyo, Japan, August 12 1985 - 520 killed
JAL Boeing 747SR-46 crashes into mountain, 4 survivors

4. Charkhi Dadri, India, November 12 1996 - 349 victims
Saudi Arabian Airlines Boeing B747-168B collides in mid-air with Kazach
Ilyushin Il-76TD

5. Ermenonville, France, March 3 1974 - 346 killed
DC-10 Series 10 of THY Turkish Airlines cargo door bursts open - crashes in to forest

6. Irish Sea, June 23 1985 - 329 killed
Air India Boeing 747-237B, terrorist bomb

7. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, August 19 1980 - 301 victims
Saudia L-1011-200 Tri-Star bursts into flames after emergency landing

8. Kinshasa, Zaire, January 8 1996 - 297+ killed
Overloaded African Air Antonov-32 crashes into market place - 4 of 5 crew members survive.

9. Persian Gulf, July 3 1988 - 290 dead
USS Vincennes downs Iran Air Airbus A300B2-202

10. Chicago, USA, May 25 1979 - 273 dead
American Airlines DC-10 Series 10 crashes due to damaged hydraulics

11. Lockerbie, Scotland, December 21 1988 - 270 killed
Lybian terrorists bomb attack on a Pan Am Boeing 747-121A

12. Belle Harbor, New York, November 12 2001 - 269 perished
American Airlines Airbus A300-600R crashes on takeoff.

13. Sakhalin Island, USSR, September 1 1983 - 269 perished
Soviet Su-15 downs a Korean Air Lines Boeing 747-230B

14. Nagoya, Japan, April 26 1994 - 264 dead
China Airlines Airbus A300B4-622R, 9 survivors

15. Jiddah, Saudi Arabia, July 11 1991 - 261 fatalities
Nationair Canada DC-8 Super 61 leased to Nigeria Airways catches fire after take-off caused by blown tires

16. Ross Island, Antarctica, November 29 1979 - 257 dead
Air New Zealand DC-10 Series 30 flies into polar mountain

17. Gander, Canada, December 12 1985 - 256 fatalities
Arrow Air Inc. DC-8 Super 63PF crashes during take-off

18. New York, USA, July 17 1996 - 230 perished
TWA Boeing 747-131 crashes into ocean near Long Island

19. Halifax, Nova Scotia, September 23 1998 - 229 killed
Swissair MD-11 crashes into the Atlantic after an in-flight fire

20. Agana, Guam, August 6 1997- 228 killed
Korean Air Lines Boeing 747-300 crashes into hillside on approach.

21. Ban Nong Rong, Thailand, May 26 1991 - 223 killed
Lauda Air Boeing 767-3Z9ER goes down after thrust reverser problems.

22. Nantucket, Mass., USA, October 31 1999 - 217 killed
Egypt Air 767-366ER crashes into the Atlantic Ocean for unknown reasons.

23. Maharashtra, India, January 1 1978 - 213 killed
Air India B-747-237B explodes in mid-air

24. Uch Kuduk, Uzbekistan, USSR, July 10 1985 - 200 fatalities
Aeroflot Tupolev 154B-2, goes into flat spin and crashes

25. Taipei, Taiwan, February 16 1998- 196 fatalities
China Airlines Airbus A300 crashes on go-around attempt

26. Maskeliya, Sri Lanka, December 4 1974 - 191 dead
Martinair DC-8 Series 55F hits mountain

27. Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic, February 6 1996 - 189 perished
Alas Nacionales Boeing 757-225 crashes into Atlantic due to wrong air speed indication

28. Immouzer, Morocco, August 3 1975 -188 killed
Alia Royal Jordanian Airlines Boeing 707-321C hits mountain

29. Katunayake, Sri Lanka, November 15 1978 - 184 killed
Icelandair DC-8 Super 63CF ploughs into a coconut plantation, 78 survivors

30. Warsaw, Poland, May 9 1987 - 182 killed
LOT Il-62MK crashes when two engines catch fire at an altitude of 8200 meters

31. Mejorada del Campo, Spain, November 27 1983 - 181 fatalities
Avianca Boeing 747-283B Combi crashes during approach, 11 survivors

32. Ajaccio, Corsica, December 1 1981 - 180 fatalities
Inex Adria Aviopromet Yugoslav DC-9 Super 82 crashes into mountain on approach

33. Zanderij, Surinam, June 7 1989 -177 killed
Crew of SLM DC-8 Super 62 ignores tower instructions, 10 survivors

34. Krasnaya Polyana, USSR, October 13 1972 - 176 dead
Ilyushin-62 crashes into a lake, ILS inoperative

35. Kano, Nigeria, January 22 1973 - 176 fatalities
Alia Royal Jordanian B-707-3D3C crashes during landing due to landing gear damage

36. Zagreb, Yugoslavia, September 10 1976 - 176 dead
Mid-air collision between Inex-Adria DC-9 Series 32 and BA HS Trident 3B, ATC language error

37. Dneprodzerzhinsk, USSR, August 11 1979 - 173 killed
Two Aeroflot Tu-134's collide at an altitude of 8000m

38. Tùnùrù Desert, Niger, September 19 1989 - 170 dead
Terrorist bomb aboard a Union de Transportes Aùriens DC-10 Series 30

39. Abidjan, Ivory Coast, Africa, January 30 2000 - 169 killed
Kenya Airways Airbus A310 crashes on takeoff.

40. San Andres mountains, Mexico, March 31 1986 - 167 killed
Mexicana Boeing 727-264, tire burst causes fuel leak

41. Kathmandu, Nepal, September 28 1992 - 167 fatalities
Pakistan International Airlines A300B4-203 crashes on approach

42. Alma-Ata, USSR, July 7 1980 - 163 fatalities
Aeroflot Tu-154B-2 crashes shortly after take-off

43. Lagos, Nigeria, September 27 1992 - 163 fatalities

44. Morioka, Japan, July 30 1971 - 162 dead
All Nippon Airways B-727-281 collides with JASDF F-86F Sabre

45. Havana, Cuba, September 3 1989 - 160 dead
Cubana de Aviacon Il-62M crashes killing all 126 aboard and 34 on ground

46. Xian, China, June 6 1994 - 160 fatalities
China Northwest Tupolev 154M

47. Cali, Columbia, December 20 1995 - 160 killed
Boeing 757-223 of American Airlines hits mountain, 4 survivors

48.Mauritius, Indian Ocean, November 28 1987 - 159 fatalities
South African Airways Boeing 747-244B self-igniting fire-works

49. Tripoli, Libya, December 22 1992 - 157 fatalities
Jamahiriya Lybian Arab Airlines Boeing Advanced 727-2L5 collides with MiG-23

50. SchŸnefeld, GDR, August 14 1972 - 156 killed
Interflug Gesellschaft Il-62 catches fire in rear fuselage

51. At Ta'if, Saudi Arabia, November 26 1979 - 156 victims
Pakistan International Airlines, B-707-340C, fire starts in the aft-cabin, total destruction

52. Detroit, USA, August 16 1987 - 156 perished
Northwest Airlines MD-82, slats not extended on takeoff, crashes on highway

53. Maracaibo, Venezuela, March 16 1969 - 155 perished
VIASA DC-9 Series 32 hits electric power line, crashes in suburb

54. Tenerife, Canary Islands, December 3 1972 - 155 killed
Spantax Covair 990-30A-5 Coronado, loss of control on take-off

55. Isparta, Turkey, September 19 1976 - 155 fatalities
THY Boeing Advanced 727-2F2, wrong airport assumed, hits mountain

56. Kenner, USA, July 9 1982 - 153 killed
Pan Am B-727-235 carrying 145 flies into thunderstorm crashes into suburbs at end of runway.

57. Saigon, Vietnam, April 4 1975 - 150+ killed
Loss of pressure blows out rear door on USAF C-5 Galaxy

58. Omsk, USSR, October 15 1984 - ‘150 victims
Aeroflot Tu-154 collides with fuel truck on runway

59. Bilbao, Spain, February 19 1985 - 148 dead
Iberia Boeing Advanced 727-256 crashes into TV antenna at the top Mt Oiz

60. Tenerife, Canary Islands, April 25 1980 - 146 fatalities
Dan-Air Services B-727-46 crashes into mountain on approach

61. Burdanovka, Russia, July 3 2001 - 145 died
Vladivostok Avia Tupolev 154 crashes on approach.

62. San Diego, USA, September 25 1978 - 144 died
Mid-air collision between Pacific Southwest Airlines B-727-214 and Cessna 172M

63. Palo Alto, Azores, February 8 1989 - 144 dead
Independent Air Inc. Boeing 707-331B hits mountain, communication error with tower

64. Manama, Bahrain, August 23 2000 - 143 killed
Gulf Air Airbus A320-212 crashes after missed approach.

65. Longyearbyen, Spitsbergen, Norway, August 29 1996 - 143 killed
Vnukovo Airlines Tu-154M crashes on arrival

66. Liutang, China, November 24 1992 - 141 fatalities
China Southern B-737-3YO hits mountain due to vibration in starboard engine

67. Kahengula, Angola, December 19 1995 - 141 perished
Trans Service Airlift Chartered Lockheed 188C Electra

68. Lagos, Nigeria, November 7 1996 - 141 victims
Nigerian Aviation Development Company Boeing B727 crashes into lagoon

69. Cucuta, Colombia, March 17 1988 - 139 killed
AVIANCA B-727-21, flies into mountain due to pilot error

70. Pacatuba, Brazil, June 8 1982 - 137 victims
Viacao Aerea Sao Paulo, Boeing Advanced 727-212, pilot is distracted by city lights

71. Dallas, USA, August 2 1985 - 137 perished
Delta Airlines Lockheed L-1011-1 Tri-Star encounters microburst

72. New York, United States of America, December 16 1960 - 134 killed
United Airlines DC-8 Series 11 collides with TWA Lockheed 1049 Super Constellation

73. Tokyo Bay, Japan, February 4 1966 - 133 dead
All Nippon Airways B-727-81 crashes, cause unknown

74. Medellin, Columbia, May 19 1993 - 133 fatalities
Aeronautics Society of Medellin Boeing 727-46 carrying a crew of 7

75. Belarussia, USSR, June 28 1982 - 132 casualties
Aeroflot Yakovlev 42 carrying 124 passengers and a crew of 8

76. Canton, China, October 2 1990 - 132 dead
Hijacked Chinese Boeing Advanced 737-247 first hits an empty B-707-3J6B and then a B-757-21B

77. Teheran, Iran, February 8 1993 - 132 fatalities
Mid-air collision of an Iran Air Tu-154M and a Sukhoi fighter

78. Pittsburgh, USA, September 8 1994 - 132 fatalities
USAir Boeing 737-3B7, uncommanded rudder condition.

79. Funchal, Portugal, November 19 1979 - 131 victims
TAP Boeing Advanced 727-282, overruns runway, plunges of cliff, strikes a
bridge, 33 survivors

80. Davao, Philippines, April 19 2000- 131 fatalities
Air Philippines Boeing 737-2H4 crashes on approach.

81. Las Mesitas, Honduras, October 21 1989 - 131 fatalities
TAN Airlines Boeing 727-224 hits mountain on approach, 19 survivors

82. Orly, France, June 3 1962 - 130 killed
Air France B-707-328 crashes on take-off

83. Sverdlovsk, USSR, November 11 1967 - 130 killed
Aeroflot Il-18 crashes due to radar failure

84. Lubango, Angola, November 8 1983 - 130 dead
TAAG-Angola Airlines Boeing Advanced 737-2M2 shot down by guerrillas

85. Gujarat India, October 19 1988 - 130 killed
Indian Airlines B-737-2A8 undershot runway hits trees and high-tension pylon

86. Tokyo, Japan, June 18 1953 - 129 dead
Engine failure on take-off USAF C-124 Globemaster II

87. South Vietnam, December 24 1966 - 129 fatalities
Military chartered Canadair CL-44

88. The Grand Canyon, USA, June 30 1956 - 128 perish
Mid-air collision between UAL DC-7 and TWA Lockheed 1049 Super Constellation

89. Markazi, Iran, January 21 1980 - 128 killed
Iran Air B-727-86 crashes due to ILS malfunction

90. Voronezh, USSR, March 5 1976 - 127 fatalities
Aeroflot Ilyushin 18D, pressurization failure during approach

91. Comoros Islands, November 23 1996 - 127 casualties
Hijacked Ethiopian Airlines B767-260ER runs out of fuel, crashes near shore, 48 survive

92. Nicosia, Cyprus, April 20 1967 - 126 killed
Globe Air Bristol Britannia 313 crashes on landing

93. Damascus, Syria, August 20 1975 - 126 killed
Ceskoslovenske Aerolinie Ilyushin-62 hits sandy hill during approach, 2 survivors

94. Irkutsk, Russia, January 4 1994 - 125 perished
Aeroflot Tupolev 154M goes down due to bad maintenance

95. Mount Fuji, Japan, March 5 1966 - 124 perish
BOAC B-707-436, fatigue cracks in a bolt hole on rear stabilizer

96. Windhoek, South-West Africa, April 20 1968 - 123 fatalities
South African Airways B-707-344C crashes on take-off, 5 survivors

97. Saulx-les-Chartreux, France, July 11 1973 - 123 killed
Varig Boeing 707-345C, total fire during descent, 11 survivors

98. Arequipa, Peru, February 29 1996 - 123 dead
Faucett B-737-222 crashes burning into mountain

99. Cairo, Egypt, May 20 1965 - 121 killed
Pakistan International Airlines B720-040B, nose-down condition, 6 survivors

100. Cuenca, Ecuador, July 11 1983 - 119 fatalities
TAME Boeing Advanced 727-2V2, tail section strikes a ridge, crashes into hilly terrain


Enough is Enough!!! Time To Cancel ALL VISAS Of Aliens in USA!!
Israel Broadcasting Network | October 25, 2001 | Arutz Sheva

Posted on 10/25/01 2:52 PM Pacific by FresnoDA

NOW IS THE TIME TO CANCEL ALL VISAS!! WE MUST DEPORT ALL ALIENS, ENACT A MORATORIUM ON IMMIGRATION!!!

 

 


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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: Central Scrutiniser
I appreciate your industry background and knowledge. I stated, "These 100 Airline disasters had one thing in common. The decisions of the pilot, at some point, had an effect on the final outcome. Some were unpreventable, yet others were. The pilot who assumes the responsibility has the final authority to remove suspect passengers, or to "park it at the gate" if he is so inclined! Political Correctness has NO PLACE in the cockpit!!"
22 posted on 01/03/2002 2:54:14 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Austim; FresnoDA; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; Yehuda; Uncle Bill; Inspector Harry Callahan...
>>>Perhaps they should adjust their figure of 4500+ killed at the WTC. The current death toll and still missing is around 2935 and falling.

If you listen to press releases and the media long enough, you will be taught that actually NO ONE was killed at WTC, that only the buildings fell, nothing else, and that the Muslims are completely innocent [blink, blink] and any damage to the buildings was the fault of the Jews and Christians so it is important to round them up.   </sarcasm>

23 posted on 01/03/2002 2:55:17 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
"Perhaps we should let them know of our support so they won't chicken out and give this hot-headed civil servant an extra retirement fund."

Think that is a good idea; also let it be known that this agent cannot have his cake and eat it too; he wants to sue; and he wants his annonymity as well so as to not jeopardize his job.

His name SHOULD be public record; and he should not be on GW's security detail, or anyone elses, until this is resolved. . .

In the meantime, hope they are giving this guy a serious background check; perhaps like he never received to begin with. . .

. . .

24 posted on 01/03/2002 2:55:56 PM PST by cricket
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To: FresnoDA
2, 10, 17, of which I had deep professional involvement, the cockpit crew had NO friggin' awareness of the impending crises, and NO pax had a damn thing to do with it!

Never fails: every time I show FreeRepublic to a house guest, there is a superb demonstration of the freedom to be stupid, rude, and an excellent argument for retroactive birth control!

25 posted on 01/03/2002 2:56:10 PM PST by KirklandJunction
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To: sinkspur
Ha! Ha! posting it on the American Air web page makes it true. I have a bridge in London I want to sell you.
26 posted on 01/03/2002 2:56:40 PM PST by Texbob
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To: FresnoDA
That's a lot of "lost souls".

If the pilot said the fellow had to get off the plane that's it. No matter why, no questions asked. The pilot should not be worrying about who is on board and the secret service agent should not be making a stink out of this. What if the shoe was on the other foot? And the pilot just out of the blue approaches the president of the United States? And is stopped? Does the secret service agent have to give us all a reason why he stopped him? No! It's his job! If this did happen then should the pilot go to the nearest ambulance chaser and demand apologies and whatnot? Nope!

This politically correct stuff is getting silly.

28 posted on 01/03/2002 2:58:49 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: FresnoDA
I saw the presentation by his attorney's today.  It wasn't very complimentary to American Airlines.

This is a lifetime employee of government law enforcement services.  For the last seven years he has been assigned to the Secret Service.  His commendations are numerous.  Even in 2000 alone he was sited for numerous commendations.

This Secret Service agent went through three different checkpoints where his credentials were checked and approved by airport authorities.  He filled out all forms that he was requested to fill out.  He boarded the first plane and was seated.  He actually met the captain of the airliner and was approved to be seated.

When mechanical problems forced a transfer to another aircraft, he transfered to that aircraft with no problems.  He was also introduced that that plane's captain.  He was allowed to board and be seated.  He was at his seat when the stewardess told him and several other passengers of middle-eastern heritage to disembark.

After he had diesembarked the second plane, his seatmate stated that a stewardess riffled his belongings, where she found a book on middle eastern history.  It was written in English.  He neither writes or speaks languages from the middle east.

He was informed that he could not reboard the plane.  He offered to give a White House phone number for verification.  During this encounter he asked the pilot what the problem was and the pilot told him, "Do not address me directly!"

At no time did the Secret Service agent use profane language, threaten the airline personel or do anything other than follow their requests.

His tickets were purchased by government purchasing agents known to be closely connected to the Secret Service or the White House.  The ticket agents could easily see this.  So could any of the other airline employees if they would have cared to check.

The Secret Service agent offered to provide a phone number directly to the White House so he could be checked out.  The pilot refused to allow it to be used.  When used later in the day, the airline was able to verify this agent's identity within five minutes.

29 posted on 01/03/2002 2:59:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: KirklandJunction
Kirkland Junction. Isn't that the Costco house brand? :O)
30 posted on 01/03/2002 3:00:14 PM PST by holyscroller
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To: Apple_Hills
A pilot only needs ONE reason. "Because I said so."

I am a pilot (private), and you and I and a very few others at FR seem to be the only ones who seem to get it. All the rest is clutter. The pilot in command has the final say in anything regarding the operation of an aircraft, PERIOD. He can be as arbitrary as he wants.

By the way, my wife and I run our household the same way. It seems to work.

FReegards,

31 posted on 01/03/2002 3:01:01 PM PST by VMI70
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To: Apple_Hills
Well said! I went to AmericanAirlines.com and wrote the customer relations and commended the pilot for standing up for Safety over Political Correctness and asked AA to stand behind him. I would have linked it but don't know how - hope someone else does.
32 posted on 01/03/2002 3:01:51 PM PST by GussiedUp
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To: DoughtyOne
Oh, brother...don't let the "Death to All Muslims" wing of the Buchananites (Buchanatollahs?) hear you post that stuff...they'll decree a fatwa on you :o)

I'm biased against American, having been the recipient of a claim of being "very hostile" when I asked to speak to a AMR ticket agent's supervisor.

33 posted on 01/03/2002 3:02:42 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: DoughtyOne

I can realize your point, but here is more evidence why PILOTS have
every right to be "on edge" about the "cargo" on board!


From The Washington Dispatch

National
Sneakers Bomber May Provide Missing Link to Flight 800
News Analysis by Ron Rizzo



Dec 28, 2001

The FBI is no longer saying the sneakers of Richard Reid were packed with C-4, rather with PETN. This information could be significant to any reopening of the closed investigation of TWA Flight 800.

PETN is a common explosive agent with military and mining applications. It was found on the wing and on a seat of Flight 800, according to a Newsday story from August 1996.

Military explosive C-4 was used in the attack on the USS Cole Oct. 2000. But PETN (pentaerythritol tetranitrate) was found in small quantities at both crash sites of Pan Am Flight 103 at Lockerbie, in 1988; and on seats fished from the water, of TWA Flight 800. Flight 800 blew up off Long Island July of 1996. There were no survivors.

Witnesses said they saw a missile arcing from the ground make contact with the airliner. PETN was both on the outside and inside of the aircraft; possibly a belt and suspenders approach to terror.

The presence of PETN on Flight 800 seat material is an NTSB published finding. But the government’s official stand is this military explosive had no role in the explosion of the aircraft. “It could have been on the pants of a hard rock miner,” states an NTSB investigator. Richard Saferstein, retired head of the The New Jersey State Police Laboratory said in Newsday, the presence of PETN is evidence of a bomb, “about 99.99%” evidence of a bomb.

Despite several obstinate, contrary witness accounts; and reams of contradictory data, the US government maintains Flight 800 was not brought down by a terrorist attack or by an errant US missile, another theory. A logical cause has never been officially established.

What is now known about terror suspect Richard Reid is that he worshipped in the same mosque at Brixton, UK as did Zacarias Moussaoui, 33, charged as the 20th hijacker, in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks.

According to the Times of London, AL-Qaeda prisoners promptly recognized a photograph of Reid circulated among them by US intelligence agents in the past few days. Reid was discovered missing from his London home several months ago when his mother, Leslie, searched for him at the mosque where he is known as Abdel Rahim.

Though a pattern emerges possibly tying together a long series of events, the NTSB maintains the same stance taken during the Clinton Administration that rejects state sponsorship, favoring explanations from a virtual shrug on Flight 800 to a loose network of independent groups. Experts say the likelihood of state sponsorship increases with the increased sophistication of the methods, whether explosives or envelopes of miraculous re-aerosolizing anthrax.

Reid, who served prison time for a string of street crimes, including muggings, told authorities he converted to Islam five years ago in prison. From fingerprints provided by the FBI Reid’s identity was confirmed by UK police.

Reid is described as a “test,” a man incapable of blowing up an airliner. This comes from the chairman of Reid’s London mosque, Abdul Haqq Baker, who told the Times of London, “He [Reid] was a testing ground. If he had succeeded, they would know this is a mechanism that works. If the plane had exploded there would have been very little trace of how that happened.” Is Imam Baker suggesting the futility of the FBI in such investigations? Is this British Muslim referring to the fact that had Reid been successful, the passenger list would not contain a telltale Muslim name, at least not his?

Had he been successful, would the NTSB be as inconclusive about American Airlines Flight 63 as they are about Flight 800? I’m reminded of Baker’s casual, unscientific statement. How ironically true it might apply to Flight 800.

The FBI said the sneaker bombs were so “cunningly made,” Reid probably had an accomplice. Is that accomplice Iraq? Unless Reid confesses, the FBI will never be able to prove an Iraqi connection. The FBI’s investigative techniques were developed when those who were investigated didn’t know a molecule from a freckle, Bonnie and Clyde, Al Capone. It took years to capture Unibomber Ted Kaczinsky. Imagine trying to pin the goods on a foreign state as sophisticated as the agency investigating it.

And as David Kaczinsky fingered his brother, Ted, Iraqi defector Hussein Kamil fingered his father-in- law, Saddam. (The Clinton Administration did nothing to Iraq and provided no protection for Kamil who was later gunned down.)

The US is pointing fingers at French authorities who allowed Reid onto the Miami flight with no baggage, a violation of US protocol. Our safety depends on the integrity of low- level officials in societies that long ago rejected any matrix of moral decision-making.

After extensive questioning by French police, Reid missed his first flight and was put up as a guest of American Airlines in a $500 a night Paris hotel. What does this mean? American Airlines was afraid of Reid. There is massive legal interference. Our adversary has learned to wage war against us using our legal system against us. Attacks will continue until we change procedures mandated by courts.

A flight attendant smelled the smoke from a burning match, saw Reid trying to light a “wire” extending from his shoe tongue, and an American airplane was saved. An FBI agent said had Reid a butane lighter, instead of a match, he would have succeeded. A billion dollar investigation would have been launched, PETN would have been found in trace amounts brought aboard by another miner. And that Anglo Imam’s words would be prophetic. Another plane would be lost because a French official felt no personal obligation to follow instructions.

In a report by the Boston Globe, igniting PETN requires an electrical charge or a blasting cap, but FBI tests isolated an “added substance” such as lead azide that allows detonation by flame. It was not stated what that substance was.

Reid is being held without bail at the Plymouth County, Massachusetts House of Correction pending a psychological examination. He’s under suicide watch. He failed his god. One can only wonder at his reaction when he was read his Miranda rights.

Reid is not the first to attempt to conceal explosives in shoes. Abdul Hakim Murad said in a statement in 1995 that a small amount of plastic explosive could be hidden in shoes because airport x-ray machines don’t examine that low. Those same x-ray machines are still in service. Murad was convicted in 1995 of attempting to blow up a jetliner.

The convicted mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, Ramzi Yousef, was convicted of separate charges of plotting to blow up jetliners. His plan included sneaker bombs.

© 2002 The Washington Dispatch. All Rights Reserved.


34 posted on 01/03/2002 3:05:01 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: calvarys
Liberals and my children. They both don't quite know what to do when faced with the reality that in some situations there is an ultimate authority who can justifyably act on what other may call whimsy or a Racist / Obnoxious post.
35 posted on 01/03/2002 3:05:50 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: DoughtyOne
Now why would you go and bring in a bunch of facts and reason to a perfectly good racist/propaganda thread. /sarcasm, for the sarcasm impaired
36 posted on 01/03/2002 3:06:00 PM PST by jmp702
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To: DoughtyOne
At no time did the Secret Service agent use profane language, threaten the airline personel or do anything other than follow their requests.

American Airlines and the pilot say different. I wasn't there so it's one side against the other at this point. I do however want the pilot to have the final say in ALL situations because I or my family may be on that flight. Unfortunately some males of middle-eastern decent are going to be uncomforable right now, and sometimes even unfairly. However I would always want the airline/pilot to err on the side of caution and yes that overrides hurting someone's feelings. Political correctness kills and September 11th is proof positive of that.
37 posted on 01/03/2002 3:06:43 PM PST by GussiedUp
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To: KirklandJunction
Chill out, and read post #22. As for your house guest, you are on your on!!!
38 posted on 01/03/2002 3:07:18 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
TO : FRESNO DA
FROM : THE GRAND KLEAGLE
SUBJECT : FREE REPUBLIC FEARMONGERING

GREAT WORK ONCE AGAIN STOP CONNECTING ARAB SS AGENT WITH UNRELATED PLANE CRASHES HAS IMPRESSED US ALL STOP CONTINUE WITH RECRUITMENT DRIVE AT FR


39 posted on 01/03/2002 3:07:28 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: FresnoDA
FROM AMERICAN AIRLINES WEB SITE
40 posted on 01/03/2002 3:07:32 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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