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All I Want for Christmas...Parents, You May Be Surprised
Momscape ^ | Linda Sharp

Posted on 12/18/2001 6:23:36 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: r9etb
In a word, tradition. For many people, the KJV is the only example of 16th century English they've been exposed to. Therefore, 16th century English takes on a "holiness" that wouldn't otherwise be ascribed to it had there not been a KJV. Therefore, the more modern the translation is, the less "holy" it is. What many fail to understand is, at the time--the Bible was user friendly...and only became less so as time passed and the language evolved. When Jesus spoke, I have the feeling he spoke the language of his time. It does no good to teach if your message isn't clearly understood.
81 posted on 12/18/2001 1:51:56 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: RightOnline
I have a reasonably long fuse

No you don't. And please stop directing your foul language at me.

I have smelled many children's stinky clothes, whose smoking parents don't realize it. Your kids' clothing may not smell, but you probably have lost enough olfactory capability so that you can't tell. I apologize. I don't know for a fact that it is true. I'll leave it at that.

82 posted on 12/18/2001 1:56:31 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: SAMWolf
SEE!?? All you stupid parents on here..YES, I said "stupid", sue me,... who talk about how you can't decide what kind of game system to buy their 8 yr old, or how many damn Harry Potter books you have and how many times you've seen the film.. LISTEN UP! Your kids need YOU and YOUR TIME, first and foremost, not another damn toy, not the latest CD, not the trendiest clothes. Stop working so hard to buy more stuff..and learn to live on one income. It can be done, and it's more important than all the crap you can buy. Flame away, I hardly care.
83 posted on 12/18/2001 5:05:55 PM PST by goodieD
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To: japaneseghost
How would your child feel knowing they had a rude, mannerless, twit for a parent who didn't know how to address a woman? You couldn't possibly be japanese, because most of them are POLITE.
84 posted on 12/18/2001 5:08:14 PM PST by goodieD
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To: goodieD
And btw all, with the exception of a few, what a sad, cynical bunch y'all are on here! Jaded, non-sentimental, hardcore, no fun allowed! Not a tear shed, not a soft feeling among the lot! Some of us haven't become so hardened that we can't see the soft side of things.. I thought there'd be a lot more agreement on this thread, instead of all this "I don't believe this because it's sentimental" stuff.... who peed in all your cheerios this morning?
85 posted on 12/18/2001 5:14:58 PM PST by goodieD
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To: Drawsing
I wish people would not wear caps or hats indoors.

I thought the same thing! I have three boys who just HATE it when I tell them to remove their caps in public buildings. Of course, every other kid has his cap on, so WHY CAN'T THEY WEAR THEIRS??? LOL It's tough being a mean mom, but someone has to do it. Might as well be me.

86 posted on 12/18/2001 7:05:11 PM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: r9etb
Wow! What a great link! Thanks so much.

Now if I can just tear myself away from FR, I can get me some learnin' in!

But I still favor the KJV, for the poetry.

87 posted on 12/18/2001 8:51:22 PM PST by mrustow
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To: 2Jedismom
Thanks for the baseball cap! :-)

Well, call me a sap! Make my day! At first read, I only knew I didn't like the sweat pants/baseball cap shtick, and the attitude that went with it. Now you've got me sniffing around like some kind of junior G-man! Sniff, sniff ...

Alright, the inner sanctum crap was kind of overripe from the get-go ...

Smoking: When I was a tyke, my Mom smoked. I don't remember ever wishing she would stop. However, kids are relentlessly propagandized in school today about smoking, so some of them may have accepted such attitudes.

More hugs. In the documentary on four Jewish intellectuals who got their starts at the City College of New York, Arguing the World, neo-conservative Irving Kristol mocks The Cosby Show, "What's with this always saying 'I love you,' every five seconds? If my parents did that, I would have looked at them as if they were crazy."

The moral: Kristol's folks loved him, and he knew it, but they were not huggie bears. (The other three intellectauls were Daniel Bell, Nathan Glazer, and Irving Howe.)

My Hungarian-born Nana never kissed me. Not once. (About hugs, I'm not so sure.) And yet, I always knew she loved me to death. (And the feeling was mutual.) Hell, she couldn't even cry. Her life had been so harsh, that she'd forgotten how.

My Trinidadian-born wife's folks were not demonstrably affectionate when she was growing up, yet she never doubted their love or devotion, which they showed in a thousand different ways. But she showers our son with hugs and kisses, as do I (is that proper English?). Does our status as huggie bears make us better parents? The answer is no.

The more you forced me to think about this column, the more contrived it seemed. That's all your fault!

The fireworks on this thread merely confirmed me in my practice of never telling parents how to take care of their children, no matter how disgusted I am by them. You're better off just insulting people's religion!

88 posted on 12/18/2001 9:46:55 PM PST by mrustow
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To: goodieD
ROFLOL...Tell us how you REALLY feel, goodieD!
89 posted on 12/18/2001 9:49:29 PM PST by homeschool mama
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To: SAMWolf; Hugh Akston; Oneidam; 2jedismom; Carry_Okie
BUMP!
90 posted on 12/18/2001 9:59:26 PM PST by Cool Guy
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To: homeschool mama
ah you know I never could express my feelings...I'm shy!
91 posted on 12/18/2001 10:32:16 PM PST by goodieD
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To: Ward Smythe
I agree. We used to homeschool and had to stop for reasons beyond our control. We were very satisfied with the school where we lived in SC, but when the kids got to their current schools in VA we have had nothing but heartache. I don't think all schools are the breeding ground of socialism, but there are so many that the good schools are often overshadowed by all the bad. The only way we can really make a difference in the public school system is to be involved like this woman. We can't fight the dribble they are teaching if we are not involved. Show them that we are not going to accept this substandard education any longer. If enough people get involved it can be done. The problem is finding the people to get in there and do it. (Preferable those who do not believe and sing the praises of the dribble.)
92 posted on 12/19/2001 4:22:29 AM PST by mrswasp69
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To: mrswasp69
but when the kids got to their current schools in VA we have had nothing but heartache

We're in Virginia too, but I know there is a huge disparity between local school systems. Like I said, we're in a county system, if we moved to the city next door, we'd go private/homeschool right away. That was, in fact, why we bought in the county and not the city.

93 posted on 12/19/2001 5:30:37 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: goodieD
I have a much different view of you now, goodieD! Yes, indeedy. ;o)
94 posted on 12/19/2001 6:24:24 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: mrustow
But I still favor the KJV, for the poetry.

True -- For example, newer versions are quite unable to match the beauty and power of the KJV Nativity story....

95 posted on 12/19/2001 6:54:48 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Drawsing
This brings up one of my pet peeves. I wish people would not wear caps or hats indoors. When did a baseball cap get to be an indoor fashion accessory?

Exactly! When I was a kid, if I dared to walk into the house with my baseball cap on my head, it would only take seconds before one of my parents ordered me to take it off.

Hats are to be worn outdoors, not indoors.

96 posted on 12/19/2001 7:14:00 AM PST by JavaTheHutt
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To: goodieD
You couldn't possibly be Japanese, because most of them are POLITE

FYI, there was no word in Japanese for 'thank you' until the Portugese misionaries came to Japan.
'Oregato' is taken from Portugese 'obregato' (sp).

If we appear polite, it's because we're acting.
We are clever, intelligent, ruthless, militaristic and highly goal oriented.
We sometimes appear pacifist and polite TO FOOL YOU.

97 posted on 12/19/2001 7:16:22 AM PST by japaneseghost
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To: SAMWolf
Appropriate 1 year later BTTT!
98 posted on 12/18/2002 6:46:44 PM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Thanks for the bump. Old Threads never die.
99 posted on 12/18/2002 7:14:20 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
Cripes! Another dingbat lost between Jane Fonda and Captain Kangaroo.
100 posted on 12/18/2002 7:27:32 PM PST by Old Professer
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