Rare Lynx Hairs Found in Forests Exposed as Hoax

Washington Times ^ | 12/17/01 | Audrey Hudson

[anniegetyourgun]

Federal and state wildlife biologists planted false evidence of a rare cat species in two national forests, officials told The Washington Times.

Had the deception not been discovered, the government likely would have banned many forms of recreation and use of natural resources in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest and Wenatchee National Forest in Washington state.

[editor-surveyor]

"Angers the hell outta me knowing that nothing will be done to them."

That's why we're here - - Make some noise!!!

Write letters to all your newspapers so others can know;

Write to your congresscreeps, call in to radio talk shows.

Don't let it be covered up.

[Gamma-131-I]

They should have been fired after a long long session of very public humiliation!

Gamma

[Madame Dufarge]

Fox reported the story tonight.

[Beamer]

Write letters to all your newspapers so others can know; Write to your congresscreeps, call in to radio talk shows. Don't let it be covered up. Write letters to the Washingtont Times for exposing this travesty, they were obviously the only ones with enough guts to print what the federal government is up to.

[Gamma-131-I]

And the whole study should be thrown out the window and started over (or not...). As another person wrote, how do we know the other years' data wasn't tampered with too? In any event, I'd have to think the data from this run of the study is now tainted.

But then what do I know? I'm just a computer programmer. It's not like I really think they were actually trying to find the truth here. More like they had a conclusion in mind (the area is a habitat to an endangered species) and kept searching for some way to prove it.

Gamma

[Teacher317]

Just like the Jihadists, the Liberals can lie as long as it advances their agenda.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The frauds obviously never expected the hairs to be traced to the exact individuals. Who thought to do this? Did someone blow the whistle? Or was it a fortuituous observation by one of the lab scientists?

[HiTech RedNeck]

Wild Cat Bump

[woollyone]

"More like they had a conclusion in mind...and kept searching for some way to prove it."

Yup!...that the statists' typical method of operation though. *sigh*

[Beamer]

I was watching Fox and didn't see it, what time?

[editor-surveyor]

"So what IS the alternative to government management? Do you have one, Dave? I do."

I'm not so sure that you do.

Don't take this as an attack, just a deep question.
I've read the material at your website, but what is lacking, IMO, is anything approaching an empirical analysis to indicate that anything needs to be done to "protect" the environment. - Further, I submit that the overwhelming preponderance of evidence indicates that while it may be ugly, this so-called environmental damage around man's habitation is irrelevant in the big picture.

Our overall impact on this huge planet is nearly feckless, and visibly temporary. - Your example, Santa Cruz County, proves my point well. - In a short period of time much of what man has attempted to build, and change has been erased by natural processes.

I don't want to buy the book, only to find that it is based on a false assumption of need for action. - Can you help me here?

[editor-surveyor]

"Let's not let these wacko, enviro-nazis lefty's and the bureaucrats that boy clinton and algore enrolled in attacking our right's, get away with it !!"

I wish we could blame this on Clinton/Gore, but the painful reality is that the mechanics of this were set in place by George Herbert Walker Bush.

[forester]

I recommend the book, although it is a tough read. As a forester, I agree that what we humans do, isn't much in the grand scheme of things -- but we are capable of thrashing an individual location to the point that it might not naturally recover (over grazing of the Aegean Islands comes to mind)

What is good about CO's book is that it articulates the problems with the current system. Assuming that the ESA and other legislative tripe are not repealed anytime soon, the book illustrates ways that the current system can be used against the "Rico nuts"....an interesting concept IMHO.

[brityank]

And how many others were not caught?

... and how many have been caught and ignored; the ends justify the means, doncha know!

Just when the hell are we going after the terrorists that live here as well as the ones outside the country?

[Vinnie]

Oh, leave them alone, haven't they been punished enough?! < /sarcasm>

Lucky they didn't get the maximum Federal punishment, one year administrative leave WITH PAY. (/sar.)

[Carry_Okie]

I've read the material at your website, but what is lacking, IMO, is anything approaching an empirical analysis to indicate that anything needs to be done to "protect" the environment. -

You did not read carefully. I did not say protect, I said manage. The empirical analyses are in the book. I am not fond of posting the whole thing on the website, seeing as it cost me $300,000 to write it.

I submit that the overwhelming preponderance of evidence indicates that while it may be ugly, this so-called environmental damage around man's habitation is irrelevant in the big picture.

I really don't care whether or not you are convinced. You are free to believe that human impact is irrelevant, but your argument devolves to a subjective conclusion as to what constitutes an adequate evidentiary case. Do you really want to go back to cities hanging sewer pipes over the river with people drinking it downstream? If you think that such problems needed fixing, do you want government doing that? If so, where does it stop? You are free to wait and think about that while the socialist machine rolls you down.

[meadsjn]

The previously unreported Forest Service investigation found that the science of the habitat study had been skewed by seven government officials: three Forest Service employees, two U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service officials and two employees of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife.

Where are all the shills for "My Government Right or Wrong The More Corrupt, The Better"?

Here we have seven criminals in uniform, from three different outfits, who are not going to be prosecuted, and aren't even going to be removed from their positions of betrayed public trust.

Since all the officers in these three outfits have sworn to uphold the law, and these criminals will not be arrested, prosecuted, and sentenced, as well as terminated from their taxpayer positions, all the officers of their outfits are corrupt. Only the whistle-blower will be punished, as usual.

If LEO and agencies want to restore their credibility and public trust, they will have to start by cleaning up their own house.

[editor-surveyor]

"Do you really want to go back to cities hanging sewer pipes over the river with people drinking it downstream?"

We're doing that right now in California:

Redding, Red Bluff, Chico, Oroville, Yuba City, Marysville, Roseville, Sacramento, Stockton, Manteca, Modesto, Merced, Fresno, Bakersfield, etc. all dump their plant effluent into the rivers that come together at Antioch, Where most of Contra Costa County, Southern Alameda County, and Santa Clara county get their drinking water. Loaded with Phosphorus, sulfites, light metals, nitrites, nitrates, clorides, and who knows what else.

This was dictated by environmental bureaucrats as better than land disposal; does that make sense?

" I am not fond of posting the whole thing on the website, seeing as it cost me $300,000 to write it."

Understood.

[connectthedots]

I know a retired forrester who was one of head guys at Gifford Pichot. I will ask him what he knows about this. He would have never tolerated such conduct.

BTW, if you have ever skiied at Mt. Batchelor, you may know of a trail called "Ed's Garden"; I know Ed.

[MaeWest]

Fox reported the story tonight.

This is great to hear! The following is the email with a link I sent to Fox this morning. The link is to the duplicate thread on this story. Maybe it is a coincidence but I think they really do read us!

There is an interesting story in today's Washington Times. A thread discussing this issue can be found at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/592026/posts, "Rare lynx hairs found in forest exposed as hoax". Please consider covering this news story as it does not appear to be getting much coverage from the other news organizations.