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SENATE PASSES HELMS AMENDMENT ON WORLD COURT
Newsday ^ | 12/6/01

Posted on 12/07/2001 4:50:14 PM PST by 11th Earl of Mar

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) The Senate voted overwhelmingly Friday to block U.S. participation in a new international criminal court that opponents fear could stage politically motivated trials of American troops and government officials.

The 78-21 vote added the language, introduced by Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., to this year's defense spending bill.

The Helms provision's ultimate fate is unclear. The House version of the defense spending bill contains no such provision, but in May, the House voted 282-137 to include similar language in a separate bill authorizing State Department programs.


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We are going to miss you, Jesse.

And I would like to know who the 21 were.

1 posted on 12/07/2001 4:50:14 PM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
your whole post is my sentiment exactly. i love jesse, a good old american, proud of it, and refreshingly unapologetic about it.
2 posted on 12/07/2001 4:53:46 PM PST by nocommies
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Here is how the votes went:


The 78-21 roll call by which the Senate voted Friday to bar U.S. participation in a new international criminal court.

On this vote, a "yes" vote was to bar American participation in the court and a "no" vote was to kill the proposal.

Voting "yes" were 32 Democrats and 46 Republicans.

Voting "no" were 18 Democrats and 3 Republicans.

Democrats Yes

Baucus, Mont.; Bayh, Ind.; Breaux, La.; Carnahan, Mo.; Carper, Del.; Cleland, Ga.; Clinton, N.Y.; Conrad, N.D.; Corzine, N.J.; Dorgan, N.D.; Durbin, Ill.; Edwards, N.C.; Feinstein, Calif.; Graham, Fla.; Harkin, Iowa; Hollings, S.C.; Johnson, S.D.; Kerry, Mass.; Kohl, Wis.; Landrieu, La.; Lieberman, Conn.; Lincoln, Ark.; Mikulski, Md.; Miller, Ga.; Nelson, Fla.; Nelson, Neb.; Reid, Nev.; Rockefeller, W.Va.; Schumer, N.Y.; Stabenow, Mich.; Torricelli, N.J.; Wyden, Ore.

Democrats No

Akaka, Hawaii; Biden, Del.; Bingaman, N.M.; Boxer, Calif.; Byrd, W.Va.; Cantwell, Wash.; Daschle, S.D.; Dayton, Minn.; Dodd, Conn.; Feingold, Wis.; Inouye, Hawaii; Kennedy, Mass.; Leahy, Vt.; Levin, Mich.; Murray, Wash.; Reed, R.I.; Sarbanes, Md.; Wellstone, Minn.

Republicans Yes

Allard, Colo.; Allen, Va.; Bennett, Utah; Bond, Mo.; Brownback, Kan.; Bunning, Ky.; Burns, Mont.; Campbell, Colo.; Cochran, Miss.; Collins, Maine; Craig, Idaho; Crapo, Idaho; DeWine, Ohio; Domenici, N.M.; Ensign, Nev.; Enzi, Wyo.; Fitzgerald, Ill.; Frist, Tenn.; Gramm, Texas; Grassley, Iowa; Gregg, N.H.; Hagel, Neb.; Hatch, Utah; Helms, N.C.; Hutchinson, Ark.; Hutchison, Texas; Inhofe, Okla.; Kyl, Ariz.; Lott, Miss.; Lugar, Ind.; McCain, Ariz.; McConnell, Ky.; Murkowski, Alaska; Nickles, Okla.; Roberts, Kan.; Santorum, Pa.; Sessions, Ala.; Shelby, Ala.; Smith, N.H.; Smith, Ore.; Snowe, Maine; Stevens, Alaska; Thomas, Wyo.; Thompson, Tenn.; Thurmond, S.C.; Warner, Va.

Republicans No

Chafee, R.I.; Specter, Pa.; Voinovich, Ohio.

Others Not Voting

Jeffords, Vt.

Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


3 posted on 12/07/2001 4:54:16 PM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: nocommies
Nothing like a guy who whisles Dixie in an elevator with Carol Mosley Braun.
4 posted on 12/07/2001 4:55:41 PM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar


TODAY'S FLOOR VOTES

The following roll call votes took place on the Senate floor today.

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(Rollcall Vote No. 359 Leg. )

December 7, 2001   6:02PM


BILL NO.: H.R.3338
AMENDMENT NO.: S.Amdt. 2336

TITLE: Helms Amdt. No. 2336

REQUIRED FOR MAJORITY: 1/2
RESULT: Amendment Agreed to


                              YEAS --- 78
  Allard                  Ensign                  McCain
  Allen                   Enzi                    McConnell
  Baucus                  Feinstein               Mikulski
  Bayh                    Fitzgerald              Miller
  Bennett                 Frist                   Murkowski
  Bond                    Graham                  Nelson (FL)
  Breaux                  Gramm                   Nelson (NE)
  Brownback               Grassley                Nickles
  Bunning                 Gregg                   Reid
  Burns                   Hagel                   Roberts
  Campbell                Harkin                  Rockefeller
  Carnahan                Hatch                   Santorum
  Carper                  Helms                   Schumer
  Cleland                 Hollings                Sessions
  Clinton                 Hutchinson              Shelby
  Cochran                 Hutchison               Smith (NH)
  Collins                 Inhofe                  Smith (OR)
  Conrad                  Johnson                 Snowe
  Corzine                 Kerry                   Stabenow
  Craig                   Kohl                    Stevens
  Crapo                   Kyl                     Thomas
  DeWine                  Landrieu                Thompson
  Domenici                Lieberman               Thurmond
  Dorgan                  Lincoln                 Torricelli
  Durbin                  Lott                    Warner
  Edwards                 Lugar                   Wyden

                              NAYS --- 21
  Akaka                   Daschle                 Levin
  Biden                   Dayton                  Murray
  Bingaman                Dodd                    Reed
  Boxer                   Feingold                Sarbanes
  Byrd                    Inouye                  Specter
  Cantwell                Kennedy                 Voinovich
  Chafee                  Leahy                   Wellstone

                            NOT VOTING --- 1
  Jeffords


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5 posted on 12/07/2001 4:56:10 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
ill bet the house hitlary was one of the 21, maria cantwell, carnahan, schumer, kennedy, the typical freaks, and carnahan is told how to vote by hillary anyways.
6 posted on 12/07/2001 4:56:34 PM PST by nocommies
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Jeffords didn't vote? *Snort*

Can anybody tell me anything Daschle has voted FOR since Bush took office?

7 posted on 12/07/2001 4:57:12 PM PST by Howlin
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I watched the vote. Two Republicans from what I could tell: Arlen Sphincter and George Voinovich of Ohio (surprised me, too.) Most of the "yes, let's allow our military personnel to be tried by Syrian judges" votes were people like Daschle.

A strange side note: Even Hitlery Clinton voted with Helms. Weird.

8 posted on 12/07/2001 4:58:51 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Thanks for posting the votes...usual suspects.
9 posted on 12/07/2001 4:58:53 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
bump
10 posted on 12/07/2001 4:59:52 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Even Hitlery Clinton voted with Helms.

Maybe Hillary is worried about being extradited to a foreign land, either for crimes she has commited or or crimes she is planning to commit.

11 posted on 12/07/2001 5:01:20 PM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Howlin
The big shockers to me are #97 and the Ambulance Chaser .... otherwise, the list of Nay votes contains the usual suspects.

I guess Specter is still looking for the Scottish law precedent .....

12 posted on 12/07/2001 5:01:54 PM PST by kayak
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Nothing like a guy who whisles Dixie in an elevator with Carol Mosley Braun.

Are you serious? Did Helms actually do this?

13 posted on 12/07/2001 5:02:08 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: kayak
I looked for HIM first..........LOL. I was surprised, too! But, then, he really can't get any business for his friends over there, can he?
14 posted on 12/07/2001 5:02:38 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Recovering_Democrat
my mistake, i forgot shes running for president, gotta shift right to the center for the campaign.
15 posted on 12/07/2001 5:02:49 PM PST by nocommies
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
How will the Libertarians spin this as another example of the New World Order
16 posted on 12/07/2001 5:02:57 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
...a weaker amendment by Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT)

What else should we expect from the degenerate scum-son of the corrupt Tom Dodd (D-CT) who was thrown out of the senate by his own party (no mean trick, considering they all are whores and scoundrels) for being a criminal psychopath?

18 posted on 12/07/2001 5:03:23 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Dodd knows all about being a player.
20 posted on 12/07/2001 5:06:47 PM PST by OldFriend
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