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Bush Civil Rights Appointee Denied Seat by Commission, Refused Recognition
AP ^ | 12/7/01 | Will Lester

Posted on 12/07/2001 8:13:22 AM PST by Jean S

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights refused Friday to seat - or even recognize - a new commissioner appointed by President Bush.

Cleveland labor lawyer Peter Kirsanow watched quietly from the audience as attempts by the three Republican commissioners to have him seated or acknowledged were repeatedly voted down 5-3. Kirsanow attempted to vote for the first 10 minutes of the session but he was ignored and eventually sat silent as his allies continued debate.

The meeting opened with an attempt by Republican commissioners to adjourn until the dispute over the commission's makeup is resolved. But Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry persuaded the commission to reject that effort, saying it is impossible to know when the legal dispute will be resolved.

Berry recounted how President Reagan fired her in 1983 and how she fought through the courts to get back on the board.

She said accepting the White House or Justice Department interpretation of the law on the commission's makeup "would threaten the very independence of the commission."

Commissioner Christopher Edley, an ally of Berry, said he has told House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt that the White House is trying to reshape the commission in an apparent retribution for some of his work.

Berry - a frequent critic of the 2000 elections and particularly of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, younger brother of the president - presides over a panel on which six commissioners lean Democratic and two lean Republican. The White House has already announced it plans to appoint Jennifer Cabranes Braceras to replace Yvonne Lee, whose term is expiring in early December. If Kirsanow is seated, the commission would be split 4-4.

Kirsanow was sworn in Thursday night to fill the seat of Victoria Wilson, an independent whose term, the White House says, expired Nov. 29.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there was no legal merit to Berry's claim that Wilson's term has not expired, noting a ruling by the Justice Department's legal counsel and Clinton administration records that indicate it has expired. He denied rough politics on the White House's part, saying Kirsanow was installed within the letter of the law.

Berry said the White House's moves were "about muzzling us and it's scary to have them take all of this time and energy. It makes me even more afraid for the preservation of the commission."

The dispute between the Republican White House and a prominent black civil rights leader surprised the Bush team.

By taking the disputed seat held by Wilson, Kirsanow, a member of the largely conservative Center for New Black Leadership, would effectively rein in Berry's power over the commission.

The Bush administration maintains Wilson's term ended Nov. 29, when the term of the man she succeeded, Judge A. Leon Higginbotham Jr., would have expired. Higginbotham died in 1998.. This expiration date was spelled out in the Clinton administration's paperwork on Wilson's appointment, the White House says.

Berry argued the documents are wrong and are trumped by federal law, which says new commissioners will fill a six-year term.

Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation.

The commission received a letter from the Justice Department late Thursday informing Berry that she is not allowed to retain outside legal help without Attorney General John Ashcroft's permission. Berry rejected that opinion.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilrights; kirsanow; maryfrancesberry
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To: JeanS
Berry said the White House's moves were "about muzzling us and it's scary

"Scary." One of the touchy-feely crowd's favorite words. Infantile.

121 posted on 12/07/2001 9:20:29 AM PST by gumbo
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To: ken5050
Look for the GOP to retake the Senate and pick up 10+ seats in the House, and then hopefully, dump Lott and start to play hardball..

Look for Jeffords to try and extend his term in the senate, borrowing a page from Frances the Talking Mule, by claiming that since he changed parties, a full six-year term starts on the day he bolted.

122 posted on 12/07/2001 9:20:51 AM PST by yikes
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To: homeschool mama
Berry hasn't won...Bush is giving her enough rope to hang herself. Calm down and watch. ;o)

I'm calm, thanks, but I'm afraid I'm going to be saying I-told-you-so on this one.

123 posted on 12/07/2001 9:22:18 AM PST by Havisham
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To: prambo
Well said, Prambo!
124 posted on 12/07/2001 9:24:05 AM PST by elephant
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To: Let's Roll
Why not shut off the heat and lights in the name of national security.
125 posted on 12/07/2001 9:25:18 AM PST by yikes
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To: prambo; Dutchy
Total and complete disregard for the normal, and necessary, COURTEOUS conduct of a polite society AMEN!!
126 posted on 12/07/2001 9:25:32 AM PST by StarFan
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To: JeanS
Typical!!!! She thinks she is ABOVE the law... that the LAWS don't apply to her. And Conyers and Nadler agree. Go figure!!!!

She is a very hateful prejudiced black woman. She does NOT serve ANYONE well, but mostly the Black Community!!! If I had the time, I'd do a search on her to prove my points. But others will have to do it today. (I have grandchildren coming over so the parents can Christmas shop) I can assure you, I've read of this woman for a few years. She is pathetic!!!!

127 posted on 12/07/2001 9:25:40 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: kezekiel

Assuming successive 6-year terms, her current 4th term would be up in January '04, Bush's last year in office.

Guess again. She says that she was appointed as chair of the commission January 25 (or so) 1999, so her term is not up until about a week after the next president is sworn in. If Bush is also the next president, I don't think she will be reappointed.

128 posted on 12/07/2001 9:26:23 AM PST by BruceS
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To: Defiant
You raise a good point. I wonder if they need 4 or 5 members for a quorum. If 4, the 3 GOPers plus the new person could hold meetings without Berry. If 5 are needed, there is no quorum IF the 3 GOPer's walk out, since there are only 4 "legitimate" members left.

Exactly! And now, by participating in a bogus meeting with an illegal member with an expired term, have they endorsed her crazy view? Why didn't the Bush administration have an immediate plan of action after her letter was published? Does the boundless hubris (or adject stupidity) of the 'Rats really surprise them anymore? Are they being sneaky or foolish?
129 posted on 12/07/2001 9:26:45 AM PST by balrog666
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To: StarFan
I read her term will expire several days after Dubya's first term in office.

Actually, there is some controversy over that too. Seems her appointment expires just days before Bush's last day of his first term, but she submitted paperwork showing that her appointment expires a day or two AFTER the last day of Bush's first term. Of course, if he wins reelection then it doesnt matter. I will try to find more info on that. I remember hearing Boortz talk about it.

130 posted on 12/07/2001 9:26:51 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Havisham
One thing you don't say to a TEXAN,knock this chip off my shoulder.Another is "just cross this line".Berry will be a has been,trust me,you just don't dare, a TEXAN, to do anything.
131 posted on 12/07/2001 9:27:33 AM PST by eastforker
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To: doug from upland
Watch..after the courts rule against her..she'll file a complaint with the US Civil Rights commission....this will be a thirty ring circus...
132 posted on 12/07/2001 9:28:46 AM PST by ken5050
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To: mvscal
Enacting law here: click "section 1975"

But note that by her interpretation of the law, one would resonably claim the appointment (according to Clinton for a term of less than 6 years) would not be legal in the first place.

Rather than use the chairwoman's interpretation to rule the previous woman's term illegal had been all along, a court would respect the Presidents' use of their power IMHO.

133 posted on 12/07/2001 9:29:53 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: Miss Marple
Nope, not humiliation. He is well aware of what is going on, and I think is to be commended for taking the position and sitting quietly while the Republicans tried to get Berry to see reason. All was recorded as proof of her malfeasance.

The administration had no idea what Berry was capable of when they first engaged her on this appointment and they should have. No amount of incriminating film has prevented this cretin from having her way. She beat a former President to retain her appointment, remember? Our best hope is that she meets an early demise, which is little hope at all since she's the precisely the kind of monster that gave rise to the vampire legends -they refuse to die.

134 posted on 12/07/2001 9:31:08 AM PST by Havisham
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I doubt W is even "working" this thing right now. Most likely his staff are the ones doing the manuevering. Hell, the guy is heading up a war, the little pyscho on this commission is small time. If some earlier posts were correct, The Prez selects who is the chairman. The Prez selects who is the Vice Chairman. If I am correct, I read last night that without the Justice Department behind hte commission, it is essentially pointless. So, let them bark as loud as they like and spit out reports as much as they like. And after a few months, relieve this idjit from her duties as chair anything.

Meanwhile, moving quielty through the courts would be the best bet. I have no doubt that this woman is teamed up with some lib whacko's attempting to spring a PR trap. Time will tell though huh?

135 posted on 12/07/2001 9:31:12 AM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: balrog666; Defiant
From the list provided in post 51, looks like there is only one Republican, the rest are dem or independent.
136 posted on 12/07/2001 9:31:34 AM PST by agrace
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To: JeanS
So, who controls the paychecks for this commission? An order ought to be sent to whoever issues the checks to stop the check of the person leaving the board and start the check of the person Bush appointed.

Clinton's letter to the board member stating the date her appointment would end should be enough to settle this matter.

137 posted on 12/07/2001 9:32:02 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Havisham
Wonderful letter. I simply wrote asking where I might find a copy of the amendment to the law which Conyers and Nadler site. I'll give them a few hours before I begin a squeaky wheel campaign in the hopes of seeing only her elbows and ass in view on national TV as the Marshalls escort her out.
138 posted on 12/07/2001 9:32:30 AM PST by StarFan
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To: JeanS
Two words: Recess Appointment

Serves 'em right for shoving Bill Lan Lee down OUR throats.

139 posted on 12/07/2001 9:33:06 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: BruceS
A cross between "wishful thinking" and a reasonable political analysis ( I hope)..the House is easier...the redistricting will result in at least a 10 seat pickup....the Senate should go GOP by +3, at least....most of the seats up are Dems..and the national Dem leadership is so far out of touch with the rest of the country...Cleland in GA, Johnson in SD, are two prime examples....they cannot run on the positions of the national party,,and don't forget, there's a good chance that as we role into the 2002 campaign, we;ll be engaged in a war somewhere.....and Bush will be out on the stump....with the 90%+ popularity rating...
140 posted on 12/07/2001 9:34:41 AM PST by ken5050
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