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Under the Gun
New Republic ^ | 3 Dec 2001 | Staff

Posted on 12/03/2001 9:00:44 AM PST by white trash redneck

Under the Gun

Post date 12.03.01 | Issue date 12.10.01    

Though her 2000 presidential campaign proved a dismal failure, Elizabeth Dole did say some useful things about gun control. Assault weapons should be banned, she argued, noting, correctly, that "you don't need an AK-47 to defend your family." Gun-show vendors should require a three-day waiting period for buyers. And "it's wrong," she declared, "to let people carry concealed weapons." Considering that most GOP presidential candidates furiously suck up to the National Rifle Association, Dole's positions were refreshing--even if cynics suggested they were a Sister Souljah ploy to make her stand out in a crowded primary field. These days, however, Liddy is running for Senate in North Carolina. And given the state's gun-friendliness--and the fact that she faces two conservative primary challengers--the last thing she wants to do is stand out on gun control. And so, in a statement to a local gun-rights group last month, Dole explained that she has now concluded that the assault weapons ban doesn't work. North Carolina's concealed weapons law isn't "wrong"-- it's a "common sense proposal." And as for imposing new waiting periods at gun shows, "We do not need new restrictions on those who already observe the thousands of gun laws on the books." A flip-flop of this magnitude can't help but raise the question: Was Liddy expressing her sincere beliefs last year, or is she expressing them now? And does she even know?


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To: *bang_list
bump for a RINO.
21 posted on 12/03/2001 10:24:24 AM PST by coloradan
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22 posted on 12/03/2001 10:25:47 AM PST by Servant of the Nine
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To: billbears
Does North Carolina have a "shall issue" concealed carry law? If so, than Ms. idiot Dole hasn't bothered to see what the rate of permit revocation is for the state. She is just another neo-Commie in disguise. Its the old argument that all the statists push: "The people have the right to keep and bear the arms which government thinks they should have", also known as the so-called Goldilocks Gun Control travesty, this one's too big, this one's too small, etc., etc., etc.
23 posted on 12/03/2001 10:26:55 AM PST by 45Auto
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To: white trash redneck
I don't think she has any beliefs. This would put her in good company; few politicians have any principles or beliefs.
24 posted on 12/03/2001 10:28:43 AM PST by alpowolf
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To: white trash redneck
Cheap romanian AKs are in very short supply right now. Lots of places are sold out. Everybody wants one. Maybe she decided that her best hope would be courting the voter's block that uses AK's for home defense. Would't that be a hoot!
25 posted on 12/03/2001 10:38:16 AM PST by FreeInWV
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To: white trash redneck
A good question. I fear that Liddy is John McCain with big hair, Jim Jeffords in a skirt.

Jerrold Nadler with smaller boobs?

26 posted on 12/03/2001 10:41:33 AM PST by Gargantua
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To: white trash redneck
"Was Liddy expressing her sincere beliefs last year, or is she expressing them now?"

I bet she will vote with the gun-control crowd, if elected.

27 posted on 12/03/2001 11:05:08 AM PST by gatex
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To: gatex
Dole is an elitist phony. You can bet she'll vote anti-gun if elected and defend the sellout of our rights as "reasonable restrictions."
28 posted on 12/03/2001 5:07:43 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: white trash redneck
To Editor for Editorial page.

Citizens in 44 states “Do not fear Gun Owners who “Citizen Carry” (CC).”

In 1986 only eight (8) states allow “citizen carry” (CC) and crime was on the rise. In the year 2001, 42 states now have CC laws on the books and crime continues to drop. Researchers to the self-defense issue, has noticed crime begin dropping immediately after enactment in each state and showed up four - five years before the Brady law. Our Indiana neighbor has issued 350,000 CC permits and zero (0) has been revoked for a firearms homicide. In these states Police Chief’s are pleasantly surprised in the quality of the applicant.

There are 21 times more (est. 2,500,000) CC owners than “street” policeman (120,000) in the United States. Policemen killed 330 innocent citizens in 1996 and CC’ers (30). Statistically you are 300 times more likely to be innocently shot by a policeman than a CC owner. Sidebar: 700,000 Doctors kill by mistake 90,000 people annually in our nation. Our hearts should go out to each and every family and our heads need to be crystal clear on this issue. Also Citizen Carry citizens commit less crime that even Police officers as a statistical group.

Women are the fastest growing group of gun owners in the United States. “Dial 911 and Die” is real with 911 response times from 5 to 30 minutes. Police only stop 4% in the act violent crime. What logic would as representative suggest to a woman to “talk down” the rapist with AIDS or HIV or STD? 10 minutes is a long time. Get your watch and start talking. Do GG (Gun Grabbers) honestly think the rapist will use a condom? Women should be outraged at the GG for forcing such defenseless thinking. Did you know most rapes last from 2 to 4 hours.

Question? Why do you think, judges, probation officers, bail bondman, attorneys and social workers are given the right to CC or decide to carry illegally? If you ask they will tell you, they are dealing bad guys everyday and know the mindset of these early release felons.

Bad guys will always have guns. It is “dumb and dumber” to believe America is safer by taking away firearms from honest American Citizens or to make felons. Anti gun groups and faulty ordinances in Chicago land are doing just the opposite providing “gun free zones” for criminals to operate in.

Most all State Statues are written to protect the general public not the individual. It is the individual’s responsibility to protect themselves and their families at home and away from home.

Road Rage: It is a myth that CC owners kill cops, or citizens with Road Rage. In the United States over the last twenty years only two (2) known road rage shootings have occurred. Believe me if Road Rage shootings were a problem, the Gun Grabbers (GG’ers), would let us know. One case, after a car accident in TX, the driver begins to punch the man in the face, breaking his eye socket, nose. Profusely bleeding from the face and fearing for his life, the 65 yr old driver pulled his gun and shot the road raged driver saving his life.

· My personal thoughts: Every solid citizen who elects to “CC” carry’s a tremendous burden. This burden is to stay legal, or be charged with a felony or at least a grand jury indictment, should they ever break one of 25,000 gun laws or kill an attacking criminal. We have plenty of criminal laws to put them away for life should any CC’er turn to the dark side. · Jesus in the Bible was smart enough to cast blame on Cain for killing Abel, not blame the stone. Those who believe the “GG” fear spinners need to wake up. · One final closing thought, Christian religions and other religions teach the need to protect ones self. Jesus said in Luke 22:36 30 He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. The sword was the finest weapon outside of the home of its time, far better than rocks, clubs, and stones.

Department of Justice, FBI, CIA, statistics and facts

Facts and Figures (700k file)

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/gunfacts.pdf

29 posted on 12/03/2001 7:00:59 PM PST by CHICAGOFARMER
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To: white trash redneck
Or does Liddy just not HAVE any sincere beliefs?
30 posted on 12/03/2001 7:03:31 PM PST by xm177e2
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