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Bin Laden Hideout Revealed By Man Who Delivered Groceries- Promised Al-Qa'ida's Wives If They Die
Times UK ^ | 11/29/01

Posted on 11/29/2001 5:25:56 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar

From NICK PARKER
on the Afghanistan border

THE secret of Osama bin Laden's mountain hideout was revealed yesterday — by the man who delivers his groceries.

Trader Haji Jamal saw the terror chief last week when he delivered food to the remote cave complex by mule convoy.

He said bin Laden and his fanatical 400-strong bodyguard had set up an intricate supply-chain at the al-Qa'ida fortress village of Tora Bora, close to the Khyber Pass and the Pakistan border.

He told an undercover Afghan reporter: "I saw the sheik (bin Laden) after he returned from a short run to the Pakistani border."

Jamal would not say what was on the monster's shopping list, but said he took the order from military commander Anwar Gul. Gul is answerable to ageing warlord Younis Khalis, who first invited bin Laden into the area in 1996.

Grinning Jamal then admitted he would be delighted if the al-Qa'ida fighters kept their pledge to defend their master "to the last breath". He chuckled: "They have advised me that if they are killed I am authorised to take their wives. The ones I do not want I must give to my fellow tribesmen."

Sources in Jalalabad said yesterday that bin Laden led his men out of the city about two weeks ago to take refuge in the caves 35 miles south west. His retreat was said to have been so hurried that he left behind a fleet of trucks.

Tora Bora is made up of bunkers and ammunition depots surrounded by dense forests in the shadow of cave-riddled 13,000ft peaks.

With US help, the caves were expanded and cut more than 1,000ft into mountainsides at angles in the 1980s during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. They are now believed to have running water, electricity, and heating and ventilation systems — and have been described as "the last word in Nato engineering".

Years of blistering Soviet barages failed to smash the network of tunnels, and military strategists believe a bloody ground assault or a long siege may be needed to clear them now.

American bombers have already dropped GBU 28 "bunker-buster" bombs which burrow into rock before detonating a warhead packed with 1,000lbs of high explosive.

But Allied commanders fear they have only wrecked cave entrances, allowing bin Laden and his cronies to scurry from other exits.

The terrorists are also thought to have regularly set up decoy encampments to draw US fire.

Washington is now considering using giant "daisy cutter" bombs which ignite a cloud of fuel vapour, creating a fireball to suck oxygen from the caves — and suffocate anyone caught inside.

US General Tommy Franks, leading the Afghan operation, confirmed the search for bin Laden and Taliban chief Mullah Mohammed Omar was now centering on Tora Bora. Anti-Taliban leader Mohammed Zeman said he too was "90 per cent" sure bin Laden was there, riding horses in the mountains at night and sleeping during the day.

He said he met US officials to talk about bin Laden and al-Qa'ida — and added: "The only decision we made was to eliminate them."

Last night Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Stufflebeem said bin Laden and the Taliban were losing control of their troops because of US attacks on communication systems.

He added: "In some cases they are severed from communicating by any means whatsoever. The effect of reducing and isolating the leadership is that troops under their control are not going to know what it is they should be doing."


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1 posted on 11/29/2001 5:25:57 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: right_to_defend
We got the bastard now yes!!!
3 posted on 11/29/2001 5:36:58 AM PST by weikel
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To: right_to_defend
Don't forget the pig's knuckles
4 posted on 11/29/2001 5:37:50 AM PST by wattsmag2
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"They have advised me that if they are killed I am
authorised to take their wives. The ones I do not want
I must give to my fellow tribesmen."

Yeah, sure. LOL!

5 posted on 11/29/2001 5:37:59 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Click Here for graphic of hideout.

Notice they even have the secret door listed. Don't tell anyone about the secret door. It's a secret.

6 posted on 11/29/2001 5:39:00 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I would suspect that the ventilation shafts would be apparent in the evening with thermal detection. That would be the best method of "smoking them out" if you get my drift.
7 posted on 11/29/2001 5:39:55 AM PST by oc-flyfish
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To: Tai_Chung
The whole complex is powered by hydroelectric power which apparently even works during a 5-year drought.
8 posted on 11/29/2001 5:42:04 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Washington is now considering using giant "daisy cutter" bombs which ignite a cloud of fuel vapour, creating a fireball to suck oxygen from the caves — and suffocate anyone caught inside.

Daisy cutters are conventionally explosive, not fuel-air.

9 posted on 11/29/2001 5:43:05 AM PST by coloradan
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To: oc-flyfish
Khyber Pass ?
10 posted on 11/29/2001 5:43:21 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Tai_Chung
A neutron bomb of course can clean out all cockroaches very easily.
12 posted on 11/29/2001 5:43:51 AM PST by MaxwellWolf
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
You get wives for delivering groceries, I wonder what they guy who mows the lawn gets. LOL
13 posted on 11/29/2001 5:45:32 AM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
NOW - LET'S ROLL!
14 posted on 11/29/2001 5:46:00 AM PST by TheUglyAmerican
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To: oc-flyfish
That's not necessarly so. With a properly designed counter-flow heat exchanger, the exit air tem. could be controled.
15 posted on 11/29/2001 5:46:26 AM PST by babygene
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To: coloradan; 11th Earl of Mar
.....bombs which ignite a cloud of fuel vapour, creating a fireball to suck oxygen from the caves — and suffocate anyone caught inside.

Send 'em up in a fireball of flaming bacon grease!
(fuel-air mixture exploding missile packed with lard and bacon drippings)

Fatwaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!


"The Taliban are about to take a pounding" - Britain's Tony Blair

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16 posted on 11/29/2001 5:48:13 AM PST by ppaul
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Why don't we just cut off the groceries?
18 posted on 11/29/2001 5:48:50 AM PST by Vinomori
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To: 11th Earl of Mar; tex-oma; Zviadist
Ever heard of desinformation and propaganda? This is a classic British secret service planted story. In fact, it was published yesterday in The Telegraph as an 'exclusive' story; an Afghan journalist had risked his life and went up to Tora Bora where he gathered all this 'information' only to return unharmed to tell the Telegraph journo. And now this: it appears in The Times as well. Same story, same bollocks. Don't believe a word of it.
19 posted on 11/29/2001 5:57:56 AM PST by NewAmsterdam
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To: Tai_Chung
This all sounds like something from a Bond-send-up like Austin Powers. Maybe bin Laden has a "Mini-Me", too, and he strokes a cat or small dog in his lap while he plots in his evil lair...
20 posted on 11/29/2001 5:58:24 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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