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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: aligyrl-02
It's possible he'd have a good case, but when the Ninth rules, he might want to forget all about lawyers and lawsuits.

That would be un-American.

Ali, the forum hasn't been the same since you kept an eye out for "disrupters." Nowadays, they're all over the place!

Grrrrr . .

2,241 posted on 11/29/2001 8:38:55 PM PST by alcuin
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To: FallGuy
Hey Fallguy... Ever heard of Touristguy, and, is he any relation?
2,242 posted on 11/29/2001 8:39:34 PM PST by Mad Dawgg
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To: TLBSHOW
What the hell are you talking about? Unless someone has stolen my password, my posts are MY POSTS. I'm not posting here at the behest of anyone. In case you have forgotten, I was invited here by the owner/founder of Free Republic.
2,243 posted on 11/29/2001 8:39:39 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Mad Dawgg
Not that kind of Sandwich!

Gotta love a little Ann & Cheese samich.

2,244 posted on 11/29/2001 8:39:57 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: TLBSHOW
Do yourself a favour, and read the spew they post on the AF'ers site.To lurk here and then post their replies on threads, then lend bitchy commentary, all reminds me of woebegone street urchins with their gresy noses pressed up against the storefront glass, desperately wanting to come in the candy store.Harry shouldn't have put that link there.Its a pathetic spectacle of cranky outcasts and anti social losers.
2,245 posted on 11/29/2001 8:40:07 PM PST by habs4ever
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To: Arator; nopardons
I was just going to say the same thing to nopardons. Who died and put you in charge of who is and isn't "welcome" here? Last time I checked, that was Mr. Robinson's job.

Man, so much hate and nastiness around here....

(can't we all just get along?)

:-)

2,246 posted on 11/29/2001 8:41:28 PM PST by incindiary
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To: VaBthang4
Where did you get that Outrageous accent?!?!?
2,247 posted on 11/29/2001 8:42:47 PM PST by Illbay
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To: TLBSHOW
still waiting for the answer to where the password is to your reunion 2? As you already LIED to howlin that you don't have a site and lo and behold you have 2.

Reunion Squared is a forum I set up after the original Reunion fell into chaos. As ex-Reunioneers had already gravitated to FRU Reunion or Reunion Reformation after the original Reunions demise, Reunion Squared never got off the ground. It is an empty non-functioning non-forum. Clear?

2,248 posted on 11/29/2001 8:43:01 PM PST by Arator
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To: Arator
I see you've met nopardons. You're in good hands. She's running the Welcome Wagon now that Howlin has logged off. Direct any grammar questions you may have to TLBSHOW. He can read nopardons' posts fluently.

ROFL!!

2,249 posted on 11/29/2001 8:43:21 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: VA Advogado
Gotta love a little Ann & Cheese samich.

Mad Dawgg in is best Homer Simpson voice: Annnnnnnn Cheeeeeese Yuuuuummmmmm!

Oh Hell... Now ya done it!

Standby for the Moose and Cheese posts!

Mad Dawgg dives into his foxhole and Screams:

INCOMING!!!!!

2,250 posted on 11/29/2001 8:43:46 PM PST by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg; lowbridge; Howlin; Billie
To answer your question, Tourist Guy is hilarious.And no , no relation.
2,251 posted on 11/29/2001 8:45:24 PM PST by FallGuy
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To: alcuin
It's the price of fame, alcuin. ;-)
2,252 posted on 11/29/2001 8:45:48 PM PST by aligyrl-02
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To: incindiary
(can't we all just get along?)

Only if you promise to stick around this time.

2,253 posted on 11/29/2001 8:47:23 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Harry, why don't you switch threads and go with current events. Like you used to do. Try it.

This thread is petering out. Where's Joe Montana?

2,254 posted on 11/29/2001 8:47:38 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Where's Joe Montana?

LOL....Amnesty for all!!!

2,255 posted on 11/29/2001 8:50:32 PM PST by Uni-Poster
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To: nunya bidness
Aww...thanks! Maybe I will this time.

:-)

2,256 posted on 11/29/2001 8:51:21 PM PST by incindiary
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To: FallGuy
To answer your question, Tourist Guy is hilarious.And no , no relation.


2,257 posted on 11/29/2001 8:52:43 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: incindiary
Man, so much hate and nastiness around here....

I know. Can you believe it? What on earth has happened to FR in our absense? ;^)

Back in the day, this place just basked in a conservative love-vibe that was intoxicating. Now, it's mood is dark, brooding, and morose.

Let's think good thoughts and spark that conservative love-vibe again, Cindy. This place needs a little sunshine. LOL.

2,258 posted on 11/29/2001 8:53:42 PM PST by Arator
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Who said I had logged off?

I thought you'd be over there, hanging out with eschoir like you usually do.

2,259 posted on 11/29/2001 8:55:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
"..and you didn't happen to get it there did you?"

Hmm, turning the table tactic. I've always thought you were a Dem plant, this just may confirm it ;-)
2,260 posted on 11/29/2001 8:55:28 PM PST by Registered
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