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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: BRL
there ought to be a lot of sharp axes here tomorrow. at least 2200 by my count.
2,201 posted on 11/29/2001 8:01:05 PM PST by mlocher
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To: NYCVirago
I'm particularly fond of this line:

If I seem that way, it's only because so many seem to be absorbed with me....

2,202 posted on 11/29/2001 8:01:28 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Sam Spade
From: Sam Spade

But, listen. You're not the people I will be talking to in the next few weeks. I should save my discussion for them. Translation: "I'm going to stop posting like a computer nerd on crack and try to put on the guise that I have a little bit of sanity."

So you are one of the mentals that is ill?

2,203 posted on 11/29/2001 8:02:25 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: aligyrl-02
do you think, looking back, he munged up the LAT/WP lawsuit as well?

Let's see: an ultraultraultra liberal jurist, appointed by the guy this forum helped get impeached, ruling on a case where one of the "journalists" whose work was "infringed" had written several sycophantic articles about getting that very jurist appointed to the federal bench.

A completely level playing field, IMHO. ;-)

2,205 posted on 11/29/2001 8:04:37 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: harrowup
Eureka! Your problem is clear to me now. You simply don't comprehend the difference between free and cheap.

LOL.

2,206 posted on 11/29/2001 8:04:38 PM PST by alcuin
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To: IronJack
You know as well as I do that in almost every case, FR's detractors are the result of simple personality clashes. When a site attracts the number of posters this one does, there's always going to be a lunatic fringe. Folks with delusions of grandeur, paranoia, idiocy, and just plain psychos. Eventually, their madness becomes apparent, people complain, and they get banned. Being the outcasts they are, they can never admit that it was their anti-social behavior that earned them the punishment, nor that they have no inherent right to be where they're not wanted.

Actually, to borrow another line from Dr Murray Bank's old "WHAT TO DO UNTIL THE PSYCHIATRIST COMES," I believe such folk are basically saying:

WATCH ME, MOMMY, WATCH ME!
WATCH ME, MOMMY, WATCH ME!

And when their addiction to manipulated attention is perceived by them to sag, they get more shrill and obnoxious . . . actually reminding me of Shrillfanny and Billdoe.

Maybe we could begin a refrain of merely replying:

WATCH ME, MOMMY, WATCH ME!

whenever they rear their ugly finger work.

2,207 posted on 11/29/2001 8:05:24 PM PST by Quix
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To: Sam Spade

To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for the pics. Everyone looks magnificant.

Wish I could've been there.

16 Posted on 07/25/1999 21:52:54 PDT by Ironic Commentary (the_mad_composer@hotmail.com


Nothing's worse than a spurned suck-up, except for a spurned suck-up who can't spell.

Oh, my sides!

2,208 posted on 11/29/2001 8:05:58 PM PST by FR Truth Teller
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
In my best Gomer Pyle voice: 'Well, I'll be....'

I should've guessed. I've found many of your postings (under your former handle) - particularly your dissertation on 'Tulip' - to be quite a blessing.
I just joined the OPC around 2 1/2 years ago, and have found the church to be one of the few outposts of sanity here in Sodom & Gomorrah West.

Your's in Christ,

El Cid (yup, one of my favorite movies from way back)

2,209 posted on 11/29/2001 8:06:26 PM PST by El Cid
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To: Irma
***Ummmm, Arator, remember all those vanities you posted? And what about the marine guy on every thread dragging people to vote in your poll? ***

LOL. Sure I do, but my vanities were never about me, they were about saving the country, entertaining my fellow FReepers, and provoking debate! And that poll wasn't about me, it was about the candidates and revealing in a compelling way the wide spectrum of conservative political opinion on FR.

I am but a humble servant, eager to serve. I am not the issue. Whether you like me or hate me is not the issue. The issues were and are the issue! Focus people!

LOL. Hi, Irma! This thread is really starting to feel like old times. How's Dan Quayle doing these days? (Remember, he whipped Bush in that FReeper Poll!)

2,210 posted on 11/29/2001 8:06:30 PM PST by Arator
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To: summer
and you didn't happen to get it there did you?
2,211 posted on 11/29/2001 8:06:31 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
To The Contrary
Reunion Reformation
Anti-FReepers with an Attitude
2,212 posted on 11/29/2001 8:07:41 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: aligyrl-02
Given what you know about your ex-pro bono lawyer, via the Buckley Bomb, and how he talked you into the failed Eschoir lawsuit that has, so far, cost FR $105,000,000, do you think, looking back, he munged up the LAT/WP lawsuit as well?

It appears that Jim has good cause and/or grounds on which to sue his ex-lawyer, along with those who acted in concert with him.

2,214 posted on 11/29/2001 8:09:58 PM PST by Churchill Gomez
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To: Arator
Never about you? Like the "Has Jimrob Lost His Mind?" vanity you posted because you had a hissy fit about a yanked thread?

Oh, my sides!

2,215 posted on 11/29/2001 8:10:24 PM PST by FR Truth Teller
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To: TLBSHOW
No, I didn't, silly.
2,216 posted on 11/29/2001 8:13:18 PM PST by summer
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Harry, do know where the News of the Weird link HH put up has gone. It's the one you bitched about when he reorganized things a couple of weeks ago. I need some info off of there. Thanks in advance.
2,217 posted on 11/29/2001 8:14:43 PM PST by chuck allen
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To: FR Truth Teller
Spelling flame?!?!?!? SPELLING FLAME?!?!?!?

Is that the best you can do, Mojo wanna-be?

2,218 posted on 11/29/2001 8:16:04 PM PST by Sam Spade
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To: Sam Spade
Yeah - ignore the ass-kissing on your part.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

2,219 posted on 11/29/2001 8:17:05 PM PST by FR Truth Teller
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
ok so those are your bookmarked and well traveled sites that you love to post at. Thank you for the warning.
2,220 posted on 11/29/2001 8:17:45 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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