But few want it to come so quickly and so messy. 
Posted on 11/21/2001 6:50:27 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
Imagine that an organism is sick. Imagine that the sick cells convince the organism that they were healthy, and in fact, the healthy cells are sick. The gullible organism would just get sicker and sicker.
This is the relationship between society and homosexuals today. Gays argue that same-sex behavior is no different than being left-handed. On the other hand, they say heterosexual behavior is not natural, but socially conditioned and “oppressive.” Heterosexual society and family are being ravaged. Our stupid, opportunistic and craven leaders have betrayed us. We don´t even know we are at war.
Let´s decide whom, in fact, is sick.
Let´s look at gay behavior as defined by two gays, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen Ph.D., authors of After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90´s(1989).
In Chapter Six, they outline “ten categories of misbehavior,” drawn from their own experiences, wide reading and thousands of hours of conversation with hundreds of other gays. Their contention is that the gay lifestyle, not gay sexuality mind you, “is the pits.” They want gays to improve their image by addressing “what is wrong with a lot of gays.” (276)
What follows are some highlights. As you read this, ask yourself if there is another human community, including the Mafia that could make these generalizations about itself. Ask yourself if we haven´t caught this disease, or at least the sniffles.
• The authors say “a surprisingly high percentage” of pathological liars and con men are gay. This results from a natural habit of self-concealment, and leads to a stubborn self-deception about one´s own gayness and its implications.
• They say gays tend to reject all forms of morality and value judgments. Gay morality boils down to “If it feels good, I´ll do it!” If a gay feels like seducing a trusted friend´s lover, he´ll do it, justifying it as an act of “sexual freedom” and the friend be damned.
• They say gays suffer from a “narcissistic” personality disorder and they give this clinical description: “pathological self absorption, a need for constant attention and admiration, lack of empathy or concern for others, quickly bored, shallow, interested in fads, seductive, overemphasis on appearance, superficially charming, promiscuous, exploitative, preoccupied with remaining youthful, relationships alternate between over idealization and devaluation.”
• As an example of this narcissism, the authors say “a very sizable proportion of gay men” who have been diagnosed HIV positive continue to have unprotected sex.
• They say the majority of gays are extremely promiscuous and self-indulgent. They must continuously up the ante to achieve arousal. This begins with alcohol and drugs and includes such “forbidden” aspects of sex as wallowing in filth (fetishism and coprophilia) and sadomasochism, which involves violence.
• They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males, including children.
• Many gays are “single minded sexual predators” fixated on youth and physical beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are “the real queerbashers.” Disillusioned themselves, they are cynical about love.
• “Relationships between gay men don´t usually last very long.” They quickly tire of their partners and fall victim to temptation. The “cheating ratio of ‘married´ gay males, given enough time, approaches 100%.”
• Even friendships are based on the sexual test and hard to sustain. Unattractive gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover.
• The authors say gays tend to deny reality in various ways: wishful thinking, paranoia, illogic, emotionalism and embracing crackpot ideas.
Is there any doubt that this behavior is sick? I feel no malice toward gays. I feel the same way about people who have the flu. I want them to get better and I don´t want it to spread.
Unfortunately, even the authors of this book are deceiving themselves. They claim that it is the gay lifestyle and NOT gay sexuality that is “the pits.” Who are they kidding? The two are inseparable.
The authors of this book are public relations experts who believe that “our problem is fundamentally one of bad image with straights.” The book details “a comprehensive public-relations campaign that should go a long way towards sanitizing our very unsanitary image:”
“Desensitization”: flooding straight America with advertising presenting gays in the “least offensive manner possible.”
“Jamming”: Advertising that equates fear of gays with hatred of Jews, Blacks and women.
“Conversion”: Presenting images of gays that look like regular folks. “The image must be the icon of normality.”
They say “it makes no difference that the ads are lies” because “we are using them to…counter negative stereotypes that are every bit as much lies.”
This book was written in 1989 and obviously a campaign similar to this has taken effect. Read what the authors say about it:
“By Conversion, we mean something far more profoundly threatening to the American Way of Life [than subversion] …We mean conversion of the average American´s emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media. We mean…to turn their hatred into warm regard whether they like it or not.” (153)
Thus gays want Americans to learn that something they naturally and justifiably regard as sick, is in fact healthy. Thus Americans will be defenseless to resist their importunities whether in parks, barracks, bathrooms or classrooms.
It is a measure of the authors´ cynicism and self-deception that THEY quote psychologist M. Scott Peck, who in People of the Lie characterizes people who suffer from “malignant” narcissism simply as “evil.”
Evil people, Peck says, have “an unshakable will to be right and will not consider the possibility that they are wrong…Their main weapon, interestingly enough is the lie with which they distort reality to look good to themselves, and to confuse others.” (297)
Gays can continue to fool themselves. But let us not. Some of these people are evil. Their behavior is sick. And it´s contagious.
Homosexuality is like smokers, alcoholics, drug addicts, certain sexual fetishes, or other unhealthy behavior. The people who engage in these behaviors either think that what they do is perfectly normal, or they have no way to stop doing what they are doing. Because homosexual activity is so emotionally based, it requires more intensive therapy to change the behavior.
Regarding the APA, Time Magazine, back in the early 1970s, reported on the gay activists demonstrating outside of the APA's meeting, which got violent. It was through threats, not any scientific research, which got the APA to take the behavior off of its abnormal list. Look at all of the so-called studies in recent years - none of them state they show conclusively that homosexuality is genetic, and none of the favorable ones have come even close to being duplicated by other researchers. But you wouldn't know that from the media and the activists.
Without getting too much into Catholic theology regarding human sexuality, all of our body parts perform basic biological functions. The human behind is used for removing waste from our bodies. It is not built for intercourse, and is greatly harmed by those who engage in placing things there. Other body parts give pleasure as well, but, again, that's not allowed, either (Catholic theology coming into play). How anyone could say homosexual activity is anything but abnormal, I'll never know.
From your post I have no idea what side of this issue you are taking, but this statement is wisdom.
Some are and some aren't. Some of Gods commands existed before they were given to Jews.
So are we saying those are all antiquated now?
No, but as those of us who know the Bible can tell you, the only aspects of the Judaic law that are binding on the Christian are those involving sexual morality.
Technically, no aspects of Judaic law apply. Realistically, when one knows God through Christ he will find it difficult to violate the 10 commandments as laid out in the old testament and further amplified and expanded by Jesus in the new testament.
As I said above, there were other laws and commandments that existed before the Jews and were practiced by the early church.
By the way, what exactly does the Bible say about homosexuality?
It calls it an abomination.
Homosexual sex is a sin. But so is heterosexual sex outside of marriage. And so is lusting after other woman (or men) when you're married. The point being that everyone sins. It's part of human nature to sin. All sin is the same in Gods eye. Any sin makes us unworthy of God.
If you two really want to discuss belief, go to this thread:
The NeverEnding Story (The New Christian Chronicles)
I guarantee you'll find people to agree and disagree with.
The problem in-a-nutshell is... In this life even if you don't try to fly, the bottom arrives anyway. Nobody escapes the bottom.
But few want it to come so quickly and so messy.
Which is why decent people must condemn the homosexual lifestyle. Nothing good can come from such poisonous weeds.
Oh no, are you one of those guys that actually bought into the idea that God destroyed Sodom because they were inhospitable! LOL!
Pardon me if I find your touching and clearly deep concern for homosexuals absurd, as they push the homosexual agenda into the public schools and continue to attack the Boy Scouts, among other outrages from this tiny group of perverts.
Your angry anti-Christianity speaks for itself.
Christians consider the bible the Word of God and the naming of homosexual behavior as an abomination was from God, not man. Your casual, sneering rejection of that fact is offensive and no, for that you are not 'pardoned'.
Humans are on the top of the mammal chain. A male and a female produce a young human.
Homosexuals produce nothing. Homosexuals are a waste of human life--waste of a mammal. Period.
You want to talk about feelings?...well I'm sure as hell glad you were not around when the fight began to put us normal mammals on top...otherwise we could just as well be sex slaves for horses, dolphins etc...
Your kind is not normal.
SR
Ah, one of those anti-Judeo-Christian bigots! Sorry, I didn't realize I was wasting my time.
I'm not aware that homosexuals say this about heterosexual behavior among heterosexuals. Anyone got anything to back this up?
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