Posted on 11/12/2001 9:06:00 AM PST by t-shirt
Jet 'exploded into pieces'
Monday, 12 November, 2001
BBC Residents watched as firefighters battled the blaze
Eyewitnesses have spoken of their horror at seeing an Airbus A300 crash into a residential area of New York. Witnesses reported seeing a fire or explosion on one side of the aircraft as an engine fell off.
The plane then crashed into the Rockaway area of Queens.
I saw the flames and the smoke and I just thought, 'Oh no, not again'
Milena Owens, who lives yards from the crash site, said she was putting up Thanksgiving decorations on her window when she saw the plane fly far too low.
"I heard the explosion and I looked out the window and saw the flames and the smoke and I just thought, 'Oh no, not again'."
"The whole house shook," said Gus Cholakis, who lives 100 yards from the spot where some of the wreckage came to rest.
Resident's prayers
"I looked out the window, the first thing I saw was a huge fireball right outside."
Mr Cholakis, 38, said he had known 13 of those lost when the World Trade Center collapsed.
This neighbourhood has been through enough
Gus Cholakis
He admitted he was praying he had not lost more friends, adding: "This neighbourhood has been through enough."
John Maroney, 47, said the engine plummeted onto a Texaco petrol station near his house, and pieces of plane were only a few hundred yards away.
"That's probably what shook us up from our beds. The whole house jumped.
'Climbing position'
"We were all out there with fire extinguishers and hoses, but we couldn't do much."
Ethan Moses said he had seen the plane climbing in the sky after take-off.
It was travelling to the left slightly and then it just nose dived straight down
Ethan Moses , "It was in a climbing position and when I looked up I saw fire on the left side of the engine," he told CNN.
The wing appeared to separate from the rest of the plane, which veered to the left and then plunged into a nose dive, he said.
"It was travelling to the left slightly and then it just nose dived straight down," Mr Moses said, adding that fire spread on the ground, moving from house to house within seconds.
Phyllis Paul said she heard the plane's engine drone louder as it descended.
Falling metal
"It was very, very loud. Because of what happened on 11 September, it gave me a chill," she told CNN.
"It was getting louder and louder and I looked out the window. I saw a piece of metal falling from the sky."
The wings were going backwards and forwards like it was trying to balance itself
Phyllis Paul
Beverly Browne, from Brooklyn, said she saw white smoke coming from the plane before it crashed.
"The wings were going backwards and forwards like it was trying to balance itself. There was white smoke coming out of it.
"It just couldn't seem to stabilise itself. The next thing I knew it had crashed."
? David Solero was driving over a bridge by Rockaway when he saw fire on the left hand side of the plane.
He told CNN: "We looked up and saw the fire coming from the left hand side - it could have been an explosion."
Plane 'veered'
Other witnesses told reporters that the fire or explosion was on the right hand side of the plane.
Mr Solero added: "It could have been the engine was on fire.
I was scared it was going to veer towards us and hit us - we stopped dead in our tracks
David Solero, "It flew right over us, started to veer to the left then it veered back right.
"I was scared it was going to veer towards us and hit us - we stopped dead in our tracks.
"We saw something fly off the plane."
One woman fled her home, fearing she could be killed.
Concorde-like sound
She told CNN: "It was a huge, loud sound. It seemed so loud that I was like ducking almost.
"I just heard - it sounded like Concorde flying too low and then it just hit.
Eyewitness
-- "It blew up into a huge fireball and I jumped out the second floor of my house." "It hit the house behind me and I think it exploded into pieces."
"I went over the deck in the front of my house because the back was so hot."
"We were just in shock and we had to evacuate two streets away. It was so horrible." "There is a lot of terror here. Everybody is in shock."
"I was very, very lucky."
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"Michael Riconosciuto issues an alert to terrorist threat
Now he's in the hole at Springfield, MO.!!
...
The recent terror attacks were the first part of an effort to target aircraft for terrorist purposes. 37 surface to air missiles have been/are being transported from Canada to the US for the purposes of shooting down aircraft over highly populated areas."
Riconoscuito is famous from the Inslaw/PROMIS/Cabazon/Wackenhut/Casoleri/Octopus scandal, so all you conspiracy theory debunkers can come out of the woodwork. He is apparently a computer genius and weapons designer, who met with Osama bin Laden in the 80's and helped arm the Afghanis. Since then he's been in jail for what he says are trumped up drug charges. He's issued these warnings based on his connections and the web site link above has copies of letters to authorities.
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGATP04RYTC.html
Now tell me is this a theory?--"And how much do you want to bet these are union employees who must be laid off in reverse seniority order"
--Trust but Verify
I'll answer, no it's not.
Anymore than this one statement by me is:
"And how much you want to bet they are laying off a lot of the older, higher-paid, higher-skilled American citizen maintainance, baggage handlers, and security folks, while keeping the lower paid less skilled foriegn nationals--many of whom are Middle Easterners."
For either to be a theory we'd have had to have laid out what we thought caused the accident with atleast some evidence supporting it. Neither statement did so.
144 posted on 11/12/01 2:01 PM Pacific by Don Myers
I agree, and I never said it did have to be a bomb for there to be an explosion or a even for there to be fireball.
But the Government in now outrageously claiming there was no explosion even though eye witnesses saw one.
And the Airbus is best described as a gaggle of airplane and engine parts flying together in loose formation.
http://www.airdisaster.com/special/special-aa191.shtml
I watched this thing start and come about since the early ‘60s. Communists started it and liberals have supported it. The whole idea is to get more “minorities” in this country than “majorities”.
The feds and conservative citizens set back the Communist “revolution” in this country in the 1950s. The execution of the Rosenbergs in 1953 represented the lowest point in the Communist movement in America, which had been going on since the 1930s and which was supposed to end in a violent “revolution”, but our government stopped the “revolution”. Then the Communists tried a different tactic, working through government agencies, the liberal media, and the educational system.
The liberal media has taught “minorities” that all “majorities” (“whites”) have harmed them greatly throughout all of history, and the long slow plan developed among liberals and Communists in government in the 1960s-‘70s was to “get even” and subdue the “majorities” by gradually bringing in more immigrants from “minority” countries. Republicans have stupidly gone along with this so they can get cheap non-union labor for their factories, farms, ranches, and other businesses.
Now we’re going to have to spend the next 10-20 years trying to find all the “minority” terrorists and criminals among us.
Before 9-11, about thirty thousand Americans were already being murdered in this country every year, mostly by “minorities”. One-world-ism and Communist "revolutionary" activity has been going on here for the past 70 years. The militant Islamic foreign Arabs are now taking advantage of what the Communists set up long ago.
When you think of Communism, don’t think “Soviet Union”. Think “commune....ism”. They want the entire world to be a “one-world” commune with a one-world government. They no longer have to join Communist parties to be Communists. They are one-worlders. I’ve watched them grow in number, during the past 40 years. I’ve watched them change from being Soviet oriented to being just individuals, a lot of individual “one-worlders”.
White House spin machine? ??
Its looking like its not a terrorist attack
White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there were no unusual communications from the
cockpit of an American Airlines plane that crashed Monday in New York, and a senior
administration official added, "It's looking like it's not a terrorist attack."
Spin doctors to eye witnesses:
" That wasnt an explosion you heard.
It was a catastrophic mechanical failure. "
Investigators suggested the noise was caused by a catastrophic mechanical failure.
White House says no unusual communication from American
Airlines jetlinerWhy would there be unusual communication if
the aircraft was blown up by terrorists?
White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there were no unusual communications from the
cockpit of an American Airlines plane that crashed Monday in New York. The head of the
U.S. safety board said, ``All information we have currently is that this is an accident.''
"Like a bomb exploded" says witness
The crash of an American Airlines jet south of New York's John F. Kennedy airport
started fires "all over the Rockaway peninsula," witnesses said.
Wreckage found at four locations
A senior Bush administration official told CNN initial indications are that there was
an exlosion aboard the plane, an Airbus A300, but that the source of the explosion is unknown.
Witness saw explosion on right side of aircraft
Jackie Power, an eyewitness who lives in Brooklyn, told ABCNEWS she and her seeing an explosion and flash on the right side of the plane where the wing meets the
fuselage, and the the plane plunged straight down.
FBI says explosion on plane...255 passengers onboard
The FBI believes there was an explosion on board the jet which crashed in New
York with 255 people on board.
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