‘WE'RE GOING TO CONQUER AMERICA'

New York Post ^ | 11/12/01 | DANIEL PIPES

[kattracks]

November 12, 2001 --

[Elsie]

the crushing weight of rule by the Old Testament.

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Rip Van Winkle! Is that YOU posting as Woofer???

You've been asleep a LOoooOOOOoong time. Christ (you know, the title of the fellow we Christians follow) has implemented a NEW testament, as the OLD one was merely to point us toward Him.

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NIV Galatians 4:21-31
 21.  Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says?
 22.  For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman.
 23.  His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise.
 24.  These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar.
 25.  Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children.
 26.  But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.
 27.  For it is written: "Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband."
 28.  Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise.
 29.  At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 
 30.  But what does the Scripture say? "Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman's son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman's son."
 31.  Therefore, brothers, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

 

 

 

NIV Hebrews 7:18-20
 18.  The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless
 19.  (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

 

 

 

NIV Hebrews 8:6-13
 6.  But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, and it is founded on better promises.
 7.  For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.
 8.  But God found fault with the people and said : "The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
 9.  It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I turned away from them,  declares the Lord.
 10.  This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
 11.  No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, `Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest.
 12.  For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."
 13.  By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

 

 

NIV Hebrews 9:1-4
 1.  Now the first covenant had regulations for worship and also an earthly sanctuary.
 2.  A tabernacle was set up. In its first room were the lampstand, the table and the consecrated bread; this was called the Holy Place.
 3.  Behind the second curtain was a room called the Most Holy Place,
 4.  which had the golden altar of incense and the gold-covered ark of the covenant. This ark contained the gold jar of manna, Aaron's staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant.

[Hatteras]

"* Siraj Wahaj, the first imam to deliver a Muslim prayer for the U.S. House of Representatives, holds that if Muslims unite, they could elect their own leader as president; "take my word, if 6-8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us."

"But we must perform trickery and sneaky tactics. We must not choose a candidate who is overtly Muslim, we will use the American stealth plan. We have chosen an infidel candidate to support, we are firmly entrenched in her pockets, and when she is elected we will cast her aside. Our plan is working, heh heh, stupid American infidels... All your bases..."

[Dan from Michigan]

Conquer us? The Brits tried and look where it got us.

* Omar Abdel Rahman - the blind sheikh later convicted of planning a "day of rage" by blowing up New York buildings and architecture - in 1991 called on Muslims to "conquer the land of the infidels."

Die already, will you. BTW - We have 200 million guns here, so we aren't gonna be conquered. You;ll have to kill us first.

[IronJack]

‘MUSLIMS make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country,"

They keep our undertakers, hospitals, and law enforcement fully employed, as well as assisting pro bono in urban renewal programs. They help prevent overpopulation, and help us test our emergency preparedness. How can we ever thank them enough?

[Valin]

Thanks for the flag

[proudofthesouth]

If they belive in the Jihad and are american citizens then I consider this to be a treasonous act. DEPORT THEM!

[Valin]

Besides your "evanglicalism" doesn't work. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US (or was up 'til 9/11).

If it is (and as I have no fifures to prove or disprove this), the advantage it has(as a belief system) is it's simplicity, "there is no god but god, and mohammed is his prophet", as opposed to the trinity in christian thelogy. It also appeals to the idea that there is something you have to do to get to heaven, or some way you must live, as opposed to christianity that says it's already been done all you have to do is accept it. Islam is really more than just a religion it reaches down throughout society telling each member what there duties are to each other and to god. As I see it there is only one small problem with it...it's wrong.

[wcbtinman]

"Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US...."

Does anyone ever comment that Islam rules over most if not all of the social/political cesspools of the world?

I guess that makes it appropriate for America. We seem to be headed in that direction under the guise of "tolerance".

[BellStar]

Thank you for the PBS link it was a real eye-opener for me! I have posted it on my site. What a gret service you have done.

[calmseas]

Well stated. Thank you. I was wondering if I was the only one uncomfortable with the Muslim cleric offering a prayer at ground zero yesterday. If figured I was just a racist, bigoted, Mohammed-phobe. And then Bush does that kiss-on-each-cheek thing. I wanted to gag.

I realize of lot of our sucking up to Islam is for its propaganda value. But I hope we don't let the guard down. These people are, as a whole, out to defeat Christianity. I guess that statement makes me a bigot. So be it!

[Valin]

Does anyone ever comment that Islam rules over most if not all of the social/political cesspools of the world?

You noticed that too.

[PLK]

Refuse to conduct business with Muslims

You mean I can never have a cup of coffee at Donutland or stay at a Day's Inn again??? Buying gas at the local convenience store might be tricky, as well.

[Vinnie]

I have a friend whose pregnant wife had an incident with a Middle Eastern proprietor at a local Subway.
The man literally threw her change at her and called her 'dirty'.
All the Subways in the area are owned by similar people. I wonder if this is the situation nationwide.

[FITZ]

I can see it if it's for propaganda, also there are people who are Muslim who aren't trying to destroy the US like the Turks and Jordanians and maybe the Persians.

[aculeus]

These quotes are worth a bump!

[No Truce With Kings]

It is sad and ironic that Blacks are converting to islam. The Blacks have always blamed the "White man" for slavery. Well, it was the Arab (muslim) slave traders who started the whole slave trade business with North America.

Even more ironic is that Christianity was adopted by blacks long before it spread to Western Europe. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church was founded bare years after the Crucifixion. And the Ethiopians were never slave traders. So you have a religion with long roots in Africa, and instead of adopting it, black militants pursue a religion that has traditionally served to enslave blacks.

[Brian Allen]

Thanks, kattracks, dennisw! -- physicist; Ron -- Heads Up!

[Brian Allen]

If every Christian would convert one person every year, in 30 years there would be over a billion Christians.

And, given that there are more than two and a half billion of us [Including more than 350 million in America and 200 million in "China!"] -- and that the whole shebang began with one Mans admonition that we love one another -- I guess by your -- or any other -- measure we are doing pretty well, eh snotters?

[Thinkin' Gal]

How to make america an Islamic Nation

[woofer]

Rip Van Winkle! Is that YOU posting as Woofer???

No Elsie, it is I, woofer, posting as, now listen real closely, woofer.

Looks like your brand kinda reminds me of the "Let's Make A Deal" show. What happens if I opt for the third door?

On second thought, don't answer.