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Enough is Enough!!! Time To Cancel ALL VISAS Of Aliens in USA!!
Israel Broadcasting Network ^ | October 25, 2001 | Arutz Sheva

Posted on 10/25/2001 2:52:11 PM PDT by FresnoDA

NOW IS THE TIME TO CANCEL ALL VISAS!! WE MUST DEPORT ALL ALIENS, ENACT A MORATORIUM ON IMMIGRATION!!!


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September 27, 2001, Thursday
A NATION CHALLENGED: IMMIGRATION; Suspects in Hijackings Exploited Loopholes in Immigration Policy
By DIANA JEAN SCHEMO and ROBERT PEAR
Source: The New York Times
Section: National Desk
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Abstract
Hijackers who flew airliners into World Trade Center and Pentagon exploited immigration system that critics contend is riddled with loopholes and that is geared to ease the way for commerce, whether in form of tourism, business or study; experts on terrorism say security precautions often take back seat to pressure from industry, concerns of neighboring governments and even bureaucratic rivalries in US government; say sheer volume of daily border crossings--300 by land from Mexico alone--make exclusion of all foreign terrorists impossible; photo (M)


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Five Israelis Held In New York

October 25, 2001

Five young Israelis are "on the verge of collapse," according to family members, as their incarceration in New York on charges relating to the Bin Laden attacks continues. They were arrested on Sept. 11, only hours after the World Trade Center attack, on charges of "plotting to blow up" a New York bridge.

Katie Shmuel of the Galilee town of Yokne'am, southeast of Haifa, says that her son Yaron is in "a very critical psychological situation," given that they are not allowed to have visitors and the difficult conditions in which they are being held. "Even the Israeli Consul-General in New York was allowed to visit only after asking several times and receiving a special permit," Katie told Arutz-7's Yosef Zalmanson today. "He was allowed to talk to them only in English, and only from behind a glass partition. The Consul told me that the boys are in a bad state and that they are being held under difficult conditions."

When asked why the five youths, aged 22-26, are being held, Katie replied with despair: "It's ludicrous. They were on the George Washington Bridge [between upper Manhattan and New Jersey] at the time of the bombing, and the FBI had warnings of a terrorist plot, of guys in a white van, to blow up the bridge. So when the FBI saw this van, with my son and his four friends - one of them had a large sum of money, there were two razor knives in the van, and one of the boys is named Omer, which the FBI guys thought was Omar - they put one and one together and got three, and immediately arrested them... For the first few days, the boys were held in an FBI dungeon, tied up, with no clothes and no food." She said that original reports that they had been arrested while boisterously watching the disaster from a rooftop "are totally fabricated. For one thing, they weren't even on a roof, they were in a van..."

When asked how she explains her son's continued incarceration and that of his friends, she said, "I truly have no explanation for this incredible story - except this: The Americans are using them as pawns to pressure the Israeli government. Am I being clear enough?" She said that President Moshe Katzav and others had attempted to intervene, but there have been no results so far. The youths are being held in the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn.

A spokesperson for the Israeli Consulate in New York told Arutz-7 that in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, "the Americans now have different procedures for dealing with the detention of anyone arrested in connection with the attacks. Every single request of ours must go through the FBI and the State Department's legal team." She said, "We are doing as much as we possibly can on their behalf," including, she said, getting local Jewish leaders involved in the cause of the imprisoned young Israelis.



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Conclusion:

Until our nation (USA) truly addresses immigration legal/illegal, our Homeland Defense Program is a joke!  We must cancel all Visas, and deport Aliens, both legal and illegal, and clear the deck.

As with the Israelis being held still in New York, whether innocent or not, we must act.  Some will say this is "Throwing the Baby out with the bathwater", maybe.  But mark these words, this action WILL OCCUR, deportations, if another major terrorist attack occurs!!

IMHO  

In other words, it is time to push Control/Alt/Delete!!


1 posted on 10/25/2001 2:52:11 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Agreed, ship all space aliens to Roswell and beam them up.
2 posted on 10/25/2001 2:54:36 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Ha, agreed. Just throwing in 2 cents worth. Hope I didn't leave a cent out!
3 posted on 10/25/2001 2:55:46 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
All Illegals OUT!!
4 posted on 10/25/2001 2:57:23 PM PDT by RetiredArmy
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To: FresnoDA
I'm more worried about the Canadian border than Mexicos.
5 posted on 10/25/2001 2:57:36 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: FresnoDA
Deport them where? To Madagascar or to Poland?
6 posted on 10/25/2001 2:58:54 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: FresnoDA
Cancel their darn Master Cards too!
7 posted on 10/25/2001 2:59:31 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: ambrose
Send them home.
8 posted on 10/25/2001 3:00:39 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: FresnoDA
So, Should my wife who is from Brizal be kicked out of the country? Listen to what you are saying... Kick all people from another country out... ok I live in San Francisco I tend to see more people from other countries then from here, so are you saying that we should get rid of all of them? We wouldn't have much of a country left then would we? I totally agree that the INS needs a kick in the behind and needs to crack down and do background checks on people before they enter, but to kick everyone out we would no longer be a super power, just a large land mass with a sparse population.
9 posted on 10/25/2001 3:02:32 PM PDT by Nouge
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To: ambrose
Devil's Island.
Where else ?
10 posted on 10/25/2001 3:03:54 PM PDT by XGMan
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To: FresnoDA
It's interesting that some continue to find humor in this huge security threat.

I guess 6,000 Americans being murdered in such a violent manner has not got their attention and some refuse to wake up to the fact that our borders and immigration policies are a national digrace and now a complete national security nightmare.

I guess the question now is, when will the Federal Government end this immigration "free for all"?

11 posted on 10/25/2001 3:08:45 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: WarHawk42; 101viking
Bang*
12 posted on 10/25/2001 3:09:58 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: FresnoDA
"We must cancel all Visas, and deport Aliens, both legal and illegal, and clear the deck."

What about my wife, who is an immigrant? How about the millions of other immigrants married to U.S. Citizens and reside in the U.S. legally and are productive residents of this country?

I guess family values means nothing to some so-called "conservatives".

13 posted on 10/25/2001 3:14:58 PM PDT by JoeMomma
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To: FresnoDA
"Whether the Israelis are guilti or not?"
Israeli Jews are not commiting terrorism anywhere, much less against America. Treating the guilty and the innocent alike is unjust.
We should investigate and if neccesary expell all Muslims with Student VISAs. The terrorists come from this group. We should also look at the other VISAs from these countries.
Indiscriminate expulsions are unjust. We need to discriminate between threats and non-threats. Fundamentalist Muslmin men are threats.
Ron
14 posted on 10/25/2001 3:15:31 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: FresnoDA
BUMP
15 posted on 10/25/2001 3:16:15 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Bump sir Joe!!
16 posted on 10/25/2001 3:20:46 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Nouge
Visas Expire. If your wife, from Brazil is legally imigrating or filing for citezenship, more power to you. The problem is this, too many here on Student Visas, Work Visas, EXPIRED DOCUMENTS, etc. It is time to tighten this noose up, big time. Sorry it gores your Ox!! Afterall Nouge, THIS IS WAR!!!
17 posted on 10/25/2001 3:22:38 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: JoeMomma
Naturalize your wife, once she is a citizen, no problem. It is time for EVERYONE to play by the rules. Remember Joe, WE ARE AT WAR!!
18 posted on 10/25/2001 3:27:31 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Enough is enough. I've had it with these 'nuke em destroy em deport em' nonsense. Lets talk turkey.

Lets say we're talking about 1 million aliens (many of whom are green-card holders) OK. Let's assume each contributes an average of $20k directly to the GDP. We're talking about a $20 billion hit to the GDP right away.

Then, let's add in the multiplier effect. Afterall, deported aliens won't be buying burgers and cars and TVs. And the drop in business will cause lower wages, and less demand in other sectors, who will also have reduced wages, etc etc. At a modest 5-to-1 multiplier effect, we are now talking of $100 billion.

OK. Now let's add in the cost of having the army seal in the Mexican border. Another few $billions.

Now let's add in the bureaucratic cost of processing mass deportations. More taxes, please.

By now, most are saying "heck, is this worth it?"

Well, not really. This will put the economy in a tail spin. It still won't protect us from a container that might carry a weapon of mass destruction. It won't protect our troops and embassies. Furthermore, by alienating middle-easterners, it will reduce our ability to hire linguists for counter intelligence operations.

I know some are saying "but we gotta do sumptin."

Fine. Lets start by hiring a few thousand Americans of middle-eastern background with good language skills, and have them infiltrate these organizations. Then, instead of mass deportations, we can deport a few hundred non-productive, parasitic terrorists. Before we do, we collect as much info as possible about their networks, so we can insure that if their buddies apply for visas, they are quickly identified.

I personally volunteered to work for the FBI as a Persian linguist. I love the USA. But I'm annoyed as heck at these morons who keep blabbering about mass deportations. Get a clue, please.
19 posted on 10/25/2001 3:29:27 PM PDT by Persian_Libertarian
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To: FresnoDA
This won't happen until 250,000 Americans are slaughtered
20 posted on 10/25/2001 3:30:08 PM PDT by Mr.E
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