[Persian_Libertarian]

Enough is enough. I've had it with these 'nuke em destroy em deport em' nonsense. Lets talk turkey.

Lets say we're talking about 1 million aliens (many of whom are green-card holders) OK. Let's assume each contributes an average of $20k directly to the GDP. We're talking about a $20 billion hit to the GDP right away.

Then, let's add in the multiplier effect. Afterall, deported aliens won't be buying burgers and cars and TVs. And the drop in business will cause lower wages, and less demand in other sectors, who will also have reduced wages, etc etc. At a modest 5-to-1 multiplier effect, we are now talking of $100 billion.

OK. Now let's add in the cost of having the army seal in the Mexican border. Another few $billions.

Now let's add in the bureaucratic cost of processing mass deportations. More taxes, please.

By now, most are saying "heck, is this worth it?"

Well, not really. This will put the economy in a tail spin. It still won't protect us from a container that might carry a weapon of mass destruction. It won't protect our troops and embassies. Furthermore, by alienating middle-easterners, it will reduce our ability to hire linguists for counter intelligence operations.

I know some are saying "but we gotta do sumptin."

Fine. Lets start by hiring a few thousand Americans of middle-eastern background with good language skills, and have them infiltrate these organizations. Then, instead of mass deportations, we can deport a few hundred non-productive, parasitic terrorists. Before we do, we collect as much info as possible about their networks, so we can insure that if their buddies apply for visas, they are quickly identified.

I personally volunteered to work for the FBI as a Persian linguist. I love the USA. But I'm annoyed as heck at these morons who keep blabbering about mass deportations. Get a clue, please.

[FresnoDA]

Keep your money, and your GDP. THIS IS WAR. TIME TO START THINKING LIKE WE ARE IN ONE!!! P.S. IMHO!!

[S.O.S121.500]

"I love the USA."
Then I imagine you will have no problem getting someone to vouche for or sponsor you.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Oh sure, your right. It would hurt our economy, and who would flip our burgers and mow your lawn?

You know I am so damn tired of people that are afraid to do anything because we may loose a few bucks and hurt the economy. So damn what. I don't care if it cost our economy 500 billion.

How soon we forget that we just had 6000 people murdered, all of whom met a violent death. I say deport every single Mid Easterner that is not a citizen. Every single one. And to be fair, deport every single illegal alien. It should have been done years ago. Enough is enough.

We have millions of criminal illegal aliens in our country. Should we just look the other way? How many millions more do we take in until it chokes us off? Would 20 million more be enough for you? How about 65 million more? How many millions more would be enough for you? Enough is enough.

[LiberteeBell]

This will put the economy in a tail spin.

This "It's The Economy, STUPID!" mentality makes me ill. Leaving terrorist amongst us is suicidal. What exactly do you think will happen to the economy if 1 million AMERICANS are killed?? Hmmmmmmmm?

It still won't protect us from a container that might carry a weapon of mass destruction. It won't protect our troops and embassies.

You're right. But if we deport illegals and cancel visas and deport foreign nationals from hostile countries along with tightening up our borders, there's a good possibility that terror cells on our soil will be disrupted enough to prevent widespread harm.

Furthermore, by alienating middle-easterners, it will reduce our ability to hire linguists for counter intelligence operations.

That is BS. There are plenty of bi-lingual AMERICANS who would do this work. Besides, it's just a little late for counter intelligence ops after the clintoons managed to ignore the threat for 8 years. Foreign nationals asking for that kind of job now would make me suspect that they may be double agents.

[constans]

Well, you raise a good point... the cost of deporting all resident aliens (legal and illegal) is not worthwhile because the money could be better spend elsewhere and would prevent terrorism much more efficiently.

The "deport them all" proposal is similar to saying, "would you spend $2 trillion on my pet program to save 1 life?" Obviously not, because you can save the same number of lives for a much lower cost with money spent elsewhere. Likewise, we can prevent terrorist attacks more easily by enacting other solutions that are less costly and more efficient than deporting all resident aliens. For those that say, "but this is war", that's no excuse to do stupid things. Unless the main goal is to do things like, "unify the country" by giving Americans a sense of, "we're all in this together to deport non-citizens", it's not the most efficient means of staving off terrorism.

[FITZ]

We had a better and much safer US before we had all these ME immigrants. Also the Islamic countries could really use the skills and knowledge these immigrants have. They can go home and build up nice businesses and universities in their own countries.

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[A Navy Vet]

Thanks for volunteering to assist in the war effort. What'd they say?

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[RussianBear716]

Don't try using logic with some of the posters here ... it only baffles them and encourages them to type in all CAPS as if screaming makes one's argument more legitimate.

Yes, we are in a war with terrorists, be it Taliban or Arafat. However, labeling all foreigners as terrorists or all Muslims as evil is hardly truthful or useful. OH No!! I'm trying to use logic .... please excuse me and continue all you CAPS LOCKED unfortunates.

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[garbanzo]

But I'm annoyed as heck at these morons who keep blabbering about mass deportations.

The blabberers aren't primarily interested in terrorism or reason for that matter. The truth of the matter is that they don't like non-white people.

[RightOnline]

Re: Your #19: Faulty logic; erroneous thinking.

Just exactly where do you come up with the numbers you're using? Are you suggesting that there are really that many in this country illegally and that their presence has that profound an impact on our economy (POSITIVE impact, that is)???

Utter nonsense.

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[Age of Reason]

WE'VE NO MORE ROOM.

ROUND UP ILLEGALS AND SEND THEM BACK; THEN HALT LEGAL IMMIGRATION TOO.

[dozer7]

Lets say we're talking about 1 million aliens (many of whom are green-card holders) OK. Let's assume each contributes an average of $20k directly to the GDP. We're talking about a $20 billion hit to the GDP right away.

the majority of the money for hispanics goes back to mexico, we are the biggest source of hard currency. illegals are a major source of hard money bears repeating. this money does not contribute much to the GNP\\regards