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1 posted on 10/23/2001 12:01:43 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 10/23/2001 12:08:28 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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It is unclear from what I have read whether the nukes are actually missing or their inventory system is just so antiquated that it can't locate them. So, it may not be apocalyptic, it may just be an abacus glitch.
3 posted on 10/23/2001 12:09:36 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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Maybe this is why Osama is so cocky in his speaches. Perhaps his plans include the unthinkable. After all, he does not think but only reacts to a situation. He has already comitted an unthinkable nightmarish act without hesitation! I shudder to think what might be next!!

......and the devil shall be loosed for a short season.
4 posted on 10/23/2001 12:11:02 AM PDT by R_Kangel
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RUMORS! I think?
5 posted on 10/23/2001 12:17:21 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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It's ALL for sale in Russia.
6 posted on 10/23/2001 12:21:02 AM PDT by Vicki
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What's different here is that this war, unlike any for several centuries in the western world, is one between societies and civilizations, and not between governments or nations. That's why the other side makes no demands, and deliberately targets non-combatants. Our enemies despise our civilization to its core, and will accept nothing less than our total capitulation to their model of civilization.
7 posted on 10/23/2001 12:22:06 AM PDT by sourcery
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Nothing can top or equal 9-11-01 except a nuclear device detonated in the US by the rag heads. It will be the last thing the Muslims ever do.
8 posted on 10/23/2001 12:27:18 AM PDT by garyhope
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The world has changed. We are getting used to it.
10 posted on 10/23/2001 12:29:59 AM PDT by Movemout
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12 posted on 10/23/2001 12:36:34 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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Those switches mentioned in the article are kryton switches. High speed detonators for the high explosive needed to compress the core of a nuclear bomb and produce fission.
13 posted on 10/23/2001 12:48:37 AM PDT by Zorobabel
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Al Qaeda's operations against the US, which have closed its Congress, stock market and central mail handling facility in its capital city, appear to have cost less than one million dollars.

It is possible that the terror network's major expenditures have been to equip it with nuclear weapons. This may explain why, in a situation in which the use of tactical nuclear weapons is indicated, they have not been used yet.

17 posted on 10/23/2001 1:10:45 AM PDT by Fulbright
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Hey, John, thanks for posting this article. You're bringing facts to light and helping others see the big picture. I've been travelling to Russia since 1994, and I can attest to the free-for-all.

The Russian mafia is ruthless, blood-thirsty and without morals. Plus, there are two kinds of mofia that most people overlook. One is the business mafia, those are the guys you run into while doing business in Moscow and such that suggest and assist with the bribs that are necessary to conduct normal business. They are also involved heavily in bank fraud both in Russia and abroad, as well as a peice of the car theft ring, vodka sales, etc...They'll kill, but only when they have too.

Then you have their mortal enemies, the Chechin mafia -- MUSLIMS of the worst kind. They are just as connected but have their central activities in illegal arms trade, drugs, prostitution, extortion, etc...Both mafia groups are connected to the military in one way or another, and have the local police wired for sound and on the payroll. Both groups are extrememly wealthy, the former more so and better organized with slightly higher morals. The MUSLIM Chechin mafia is segmented and disorganized with fringe groups acting in cells all over central and eastern Europe.

Given my experience with these groups, I'd have no problem believing that the MUSLIM Chechin mafia has indeed sold and exported nuclear weapons out of Russia, and materials needed for their construction. Draw what conclusions you'd like, but I consider it as fact that our enemies are so armed. Additionally, I have no doubt that those weapons are south of our border, if not already in our county. Imagine the amount of cocaine that is transferred from S.America to Europe and the amount of heroine that is transported from Europe to S. AMerica only to end up in our country. Hundreds of thousands of tons. If someone actually planned on taking in one of potentially several nuclear devices, can anyone confidently say they haven't already arrived on US soil, or will at some point in the future?

Complete and total extermination of the terroristically inclined is the only answer. That and a hard-line crackdown on our borders, and illegals in this country.

20 posted on 10/23/2001 1:50:23 AM PDT by CBF
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I was wondering why Bin Laden was saying: "Having nukes is my perfect right". I mean, after all his attacks and killings, don't you think that statement is a bit redundant? I am wondering if he is using that as a code word for either the Anthrax attacks or for a nuke attack.

In fact he is meaning USING nukes is his own right, a statement meant to prepare the world for his own wrath - a sort of nuke usage appology. THat could imply that he has nukes already and are making them ready.

Just as the war on drugs was a failure, the smugglers have used the same drug routes and readily bribe-able "reliable" custom officers to pass nukes. We certainly are seeing the tip of the iceberg in this story.

If the gung ho US forces go near Usama and are able to capture him, then that means he has no nukes. However, if he has nukes, he probably kept them for himself or kept some behind the lines as a mean of hostage taking of Americans. So the nearer we get to Bin Laden, the more likely US forces in Afghanistan will get nuked or some Western asset or country will get nuked.

22 posted on 10/23/2001 2:07:26 AM PDT by lavaroise
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Well, I guess the Soviets finally learned their lessons in capitalism. Supply and demand, laizzes-faire, free markets.... this sucks.
24 posted on 10/23/2001 2:42:20 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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A question comes to mind:

Just because you have a Soviet suitcase nuke, what guarentee is there you can actually use it? It's not like these things are just a box with a big red button that has a smiley nuclear cloud printed on it, with a label that reads "Uncle Gorkys Old-Tyme Nuclear Device" printed on the side.

There are keys and codes involved in this, with no guarentee that the Russian Mafia had access to those..of course, no guarentee that they DIDN'T have access to them either. :(

I'm more worried about radiological weapons though...
26 posted on 10/23/2001 3:53:13 AM PDT by WyldKard
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One gets the feeling that it is only a matter of time before one of these things is used against us..... here or there!

Mike

29 posted on 10/23/2001 4:56:37 AM PDT by MichaelP
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Now remind me again: under whose watch did all this happen?
37 posted on 10/23/2001 5:35:33 AM PDT by Elenya
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IT is a question of time until we have the first nuclear weapon detonated in an American city unless we start taking this war seriously. For those who missed it we got a clear statement of the enemy intent of september 11, 2001. A second statement about the enemy's moral abjuration of weapons of mass destruction has been made by the anthrax letters. If they do not at present have nuclear weapons they will get them. Those who say the detonation sequence requires too much specialized training for Al Qaeda to obtain are deluding people. Clearly the Soviets had a number of people trained to use these devices. Clearly at least some of these people are very much hurting for money. Cearly the idealogical imperative is pretty much gone for at least some of these people. Clearly the efficiency of the KGB in regulating the activities of these people has evaporated. It only takes one trained person to pass the knowledge along.

The above was only for the Soviet weapons that are missing. Pakistan is an Islamic state. Pakistan is facing radical Islamic groups within its own borders. The former head of ISI had very stong ties to the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Pakistani nuclear weapons are therefor also at risk. The failure of the USA to respond to an attack on the United States with a weapon of mass destruction calls into question the whole idea of mutually assured destruction and opens the way for one of the organizations to use one or more of these weapons.

maybe after a few of these go off we will have a situation where we will close our borders to those who are trying to kill us and we will go after those already here who seek our destruction

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

51 posted on 10/23/2001 6:18:31 AM PDT by harpseal
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Kinda gives you that certain glow, eh?
58 posted on 10/23/2001 7:07:51 AM PDT by Hoosier
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bttt
83 posted on 10/23/2001 1:58:13 PM PDT by a_federalist
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