Posted on 10/21/2001 6:49:04 PM PDT by blam
MONDAY OCTOBER 22 2001
FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
FROM DAMIAN WHITWORTH IN WASHINGTON
AMERICAN investigators are considering resorting to harsher interrogation techniques, including torture, after facing a wall of silence from jailed suspected members of Osama bin Ladens al-Qaeda network, according to a report yesterday. More than 150 people who were picked up after September 11 remain in custody, with four men the focus of particularly intense scrutiny. But investigators have found the usual methods have failed to persuade any of them to talk.
Options being weighed include truth drugs, pressure tactics and extraditing the suspects to countries whose security services are more used to employing a heavy-handed approach during interrogations.
Were into this thing for 35 days and nobody is talking. Frustration has begun to appear, a senior FBI official told The Washington Post.
Under US law, evidence extracted using physical pressure or torture is inadmissible in court and interrogators could also face criminal charges for employing such methods. However, investigators suggested that the time might soon come when a truth serum, such as sodium pentothal, would be deemed an acceptable tool for interrogators.
The public pressure for results in the war on terrorism might also persuade the FBI to encourage the countries of suspects to seek their extradition, in the knowledge that they could be given a much rougher reception in jails back home.
One of the four key suspects is Zacarias Moussaoui, a French Moroccan, suspected of being a twentieth hijacker who failed to make it on board the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania. Moussaoui was detained after he acted suspiciously at a Minnesota flying school, requesting lessons in how to steer a plane but not how to take off or land. Both Morocco and France are regarded as having harsher interrogation methods than the United States.
The investigators have been disappointed that the usual incentives to break suspects, such as promises of shorter sentences, money, jobs and new lives in the witness protection programme, have failed to break the silence.
We are known for humanitarian treatment, so basically we are stuck. Usually there is some incentive, some angle to play, what you can do for them. But it could get to that spot where we could go to pressure . . . where we dont have a choice, and we are probably getting there, an FBI agent involved in the investigation told the paper.
The other key suspects being held in New York are Mohammed Jaweed Azmath and Ayub Ali Khan, Indians who were caught the day after the attacks travelling with false passports, craft knives such as those used in the hijackings and hair dye. Nabil Almarabh, a Boston taxi driver alleged to have links to al-Qaeda, is also being held. Some legal experts believe that the US Supreme Court, which has a conservative tilt, might be prepared to support curtailing the civil liberties of prisoners in terrorism cases.
However, a warning that torture should be avoided came from Robert Blitzer, a former head of the FBIs counter-terrorism section. He said that the practice goes against every grain in my body. Chances are you are going to get the wrong person and risk damage or killing them.
In all, about 800 people have been rounded up since the attacks, most of whom are expected to be found to be innocent. Investigators believe there could be hundreds of people linked to al-Qaeda living in the US, and the Bush Administration has issued a warning that more attacks are probably being planned.
Newsweek magazine reports today that Mohammed Atta, the suspected ringleader who died in the first plane to hit the World Trade Centre, had been looking into hitting an aircraft carrier. Investigators retracing his movements found that he visited the huge US Navy base at Norfolk, Virginia, in February and April this year.
They WILL talk then, the faster the better. How about a barrel of chitterlings& pig s**t? I belive the details of use are quite well known.
This article, incidentally is awsome, I was truly moved. Having been involved with aerospace, I can frankly tell you that once a crash occurs one could walk through the plant and not hear a sound, even normal manufacturing was muffled. This didn't stop until someone passed the news that we weren't involved in anything connected with the crash. Then at least some production got completed. Everyone in the aviation industry feels a bond with everyone else there, and realizes that it is their component that stands between a relaxing flight and disaster. Having calibrated many instruments, I can still feel the cold fear that grips you when you hear that "XX Airlines just lost one"..especially if you know that you had done the instrument work for that aircraft..
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"I think we should play like the Russians did in the cold war. These people just disappear, never to be seen from or heard from again.The message gets out loud and clear."
Two problems with that...
1. These guys are part of a suicidal death cult to begin with.
2. Their families are likely rewarded or punished depending on their loyalty to the terrorist's cause.
Ship them to Turkey.
Options being weighed ? Why not use them, their not painful. IMO I don't consdider them torture so by all means use them !!
Yup. The Turks will have them 'speaking in tongues.'
Well then we will at least know the SOB is innocent; the bastard should've talked.
Damn right we should use torture! This is war. Thousands of American lives are at stake, perhaps millions. We've already lost thousands, and these demons know no bounds. Hang them by the thumbs and skin 'em alive until they either talk or die. One American life is worth 10,000 of theirs.
For the period of time they still have tongues.
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