Posted on 10/18/2001 7:25:25 AM PDT by Eala
Larry Ellison is promoting a new National ID Card based on Oracle software. He'll give the database engine away free to show his good spirit (but maintenance and upgrades will not be free.)
Sample of Larry Ellison's new National ID Card
Larry Ellison is promoting a new National ID Card based on Oracle software. He'll give the database engine away free to show his good spirit (but maintenance and upgrades will not be free.)
Here's a prototype of what his new card might look like. Of course, it would do nothing to combat terrorism, but it would help the government and corporations keep closer tabs on innocent people in the USA.
Turns out Jefferson may have gotten in backwards. The price of excessive vigilance is liberty.
More ironic than funny: Ellison's family took its name (not that long ago) from Ellis Island. He wants his card to be "optional" for citizens who don't mind being interrogated and searched when they travel, but mandatory for immigrants.
Has it been over a year since you last donated to the Electronic Frontier Foundation? We fight stuff like Larry's card.
I've never had that idea. The U.S. government in its current form: annoys me, worries me, intrudes on me, angers me and keeps me vigilent.
However, Islamic terrorists, who walk among us (mostly illegally) HAVE killed us, and want to kill ALL of us.
For all of the bad attributes of our hugely bloated bureaucracy, they don't want to kill us in large numbers. The Islamic warriors do. And, they are here, like it or not.
I'm a pragmatist. I'm a citizen by right, and a card identifying that status does nothing to diminish my rights a citizen. What it does is winnow out ... not only those Muslim bastards but also the Russian mafioso etc. ... who are working at crime and murder within our borders!!!
I'm willing to accept the process, as much of a pain in the ass it will be, of acquiring a non-counterfittable, picture ID card that says ... this person is a legal American. Having a card in no way changes ANY of the rights or privileges that American citizens already enjoy. It's a way to make sure the frauds that DON'T deserve the rights and privileges, that don't have the best interests that Americans share, that don't answer to American law ... don't move easily among us.
I don't understand, in any way, the problem ... if an American government is so despotic that they will use some ID card to identify us .... man, an ID card is the LEAST of our problems.
I'm not worried about our government, I'm worried about Muslims who are skulking in Newark cafes and bogus educational institutionals who are actively planning to to kill you, me and all of our family, friends and neighbors. I want them killed, if not, deported.
You've been an idiot since October 5th, 2001 here. So which banned idiot were you before you re-registered? You creeps are so predictable.
Wow, thanks for that elaborate insight into the "Grapes of Wrath". LMAO!!!! I was going to read the book. Or buy the Cliff Notes. Or watch the movie. No need now!
The "Classics" sure ain't all that. They're way easy to figger out!
Dumbass.
If the ID card was just that- a piece of plastic with your name/nationality on it, fine. Identification doesn't bother me. Monitoring does. Modern technology makes that more than possible and then some.
And make no mistake: if it can be produced, it can be counterfitted.
My point is simply this; the cards may be useful, however minimally, in fighting the threat of terrorism. But they will also outlast the threat. If a mandatory ID card law is passed, I sincerely doubt it would be reversed when the threat is passed. At which point, it's use as a monitoring system leaves everyone at the mercy of our political leaders.
To place that much weight on their nobility would be idiocy, since our government changes members every couple years. I wouldn't be to worried about this under say, G.W. Bush. Under someone like Hillary Clinton on the other hand...
Perhaps. He seems to me to be a somewhat more obnoxious version of Texasforever (who BTW is a great debator though we don't always agree).
But don't count Arne out just yet. I've read his posts before, and sooner or later he always gets around to making an honest arguememnt.
Either you guys are newbies who don't have an informed opinion, or you are recycled jerkoffs. Either way, don't worry if I blow off your criticisms, ok? I just can't get down on myself for criticism from you or metmoblah, Dr. Skank or whoever. You guys have no credibility with me. You are just more shit on an increasing FR pile.
If kahuna JimRob, WrightisRright, John Huang2, Kat, Common Tator, SneakyPete, Laz, Dead, Deb, MudboySlim, Hugh Akston, Gonzo, Sinkspur, BillieHowlinHLLSnowBun or any of the ladies from the Guild etc. -anybody I respect - told me to cool it ... I'd cool it. Stat. You don't rate.
I'd say "LOL", but it's not funny. They couldn't use a tattoo because there are too many people for whom there are real-life associations. My wife's nanny survived Auschwitz. She had the blue tattoo. And she woke up many a night from nightmares, screaming about "the smell."
An implantable RF ID transponder, now, might work. Somewhere I still have a 10-year-old Electronic Design (or was it EDN?) article about an early design. Range was quite limited, since it used energy collected during the query burst to power the response. But with the increase of low-power electronics technology, and various advances in RF technologies since then, one that works over a range of, say, several meters is far from unimaginable. Think of it:
At the airport: No more checking in (except for your luggage), boarding passes (as such, you still get a card with your seat assignment), etc. They know when you arrive, they know who's going through the security points, they know who has boarded, or exited, the plane.
At the bank: Holdups become very difficult. They know who you are. Unless you wrap the transponder in foil, but then you set the "unidentiable person entering premises" alarm.
No more prison breaks. Why, unless you want to be a "mountain man" the rest of your life? They'll know where you are the instant you set foot in (any) town.
No driver's license needed. It's on file in the government's Oracle databases.
Frightfully convenient, no?
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