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I'm curious. Where do you get the idea that no U.S. government in any form would ever hurt you?

I've never had that idea. The U.S. government in its current form: annoys me, worries me, intrudes on me, angers me and keeps me vigilent.

However, Islamic terrorists, who walk among us (mostly illegally) HAVE killed us, and want to kill ALL of us.

For all of the bad attributes of our hugely bloated bureaucracy, they don't want to kill us in large numbers. The Islamic warriors do. And, they are here, like it or not.

I'm a pragmatist. I'm a citizen by right, and a card identifying that status does nothing to diminish my rights a citizen. What it does is winnow out ... not only those Muslim bastards but also the Russian mafioso etc. ... who are working at crime and murder within our borders!!!

I'm willing to accept the process, as much of a pain in the ass it will be, of acquiring a non-counterfittable, picture ID card that says ... this person is a legal American. Having a card in no way changes ANY of the rights or privileges that American citizens already enjoy. It's a way to make sure the frauds that DON'T deserve the rights and privileges, that don't have the best interests that Americans share, that don't answer to American law ... don't move easily among us.

I don't understand, in any way, the problem ... if an American government is so despotic that they will use some ID card to identify us .... man, an ID card is the LEAST of our problems.

I'm not worried about our government, I'm worried about Muslims who are skulking in Newark cafes and bogus educational institutionals who are actively planning to to kill you, me and all of our family, friends and neighbors. I want them killed, if not, deported.

The killed/deported idea sounds fantastic. Best way to deal with the problemthat I can see, although you forgot internment. We can do these things w/out the ID cards.

If the ID card was just that- a piece of plastic with your name/nationality on it, fine. Identification doesn't bother me. Monitoring does. Modern technology makes that more than possible and then some.

And make no mistake: if it can be produced, it can be counterfitted.

My point is simply this; the cards may be useful, however minimally, in fighting the threat of terrorism. But they will also outlast the threat. If a mandatory ID card law is passed, I sincerely doubt it would be reversed when the threat is passed. At which point, it's use as a monitoring system leaves everyone at the mercy of our political leaders.

To place that much weight on their nobility would be idiocy, since our government changes members every couple years. I wouldn't be to worried about this under say, G.W. Bush. Under someone like Hillary Clinton on the other hand...