[RichardEdward]

please see the website for expanded discussion of the myths

https://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2475

what does everyone else think about civilians carrying on planes?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

The link does not work. Try this one.

https://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=2475

[LS]

Not smart. Decompression DOES occur, depending on the gun. You cannot guarantee someone will not carry the "wrong" gun on. (Gee, that would be "gun control"). It is one thing for a crew member to be armed. But your gun goes off in your home or shed, maybe you get hurt, maybe you die. It discharges accidentally in the air, 250 people or more die. Not smart.

[Nitro]

Beware, this is a secure link

[Tacis]

Arming airline pilots is not that illogical. Many pilots for the major US airlines also belong to military reserve units where the often carry sidearms while on duty. Many of these pilots are already trained and quite comfortable with a weapon.

[Highest Authority]

The Constitution and I both support your argument!

[Aurelius]

BUMP

[Justin Thyme]

Well, out of the 12 myths stated, 5 of them are, at a minimum, very poorly written.

Numbers 2, 3, 4, 7 and 11 all say may/might/could...and these words imply the possibility, if not the probability of something occuring. Therefore, they are not myths, but actual possibilities.

That's not even going into the fact that myths 2, 4, 10 and 11 all say very similar things (reducing the 12 myths to 8).

For the record, I am all for certain qualified, trained, and somewhat regulated people to carry firearms on an aircraft.

Also, having studied logic and philosophy (philosophy was my second major), the article is one of the poorest written rationalizations of the arguements for carrying guns on aircraft, rife with redundancy and sloppy logic.

[chainsaw]

Our government, for some unexplained reason, thinks that only FBI agents, or air martials are trustworthy enough to carry a weapon. Think about this.

The pilot is in control of a 300,000 lb. missile traveling faster than a .45 cal. bullet at muzzle velocity. Would it not be wise to allow him the means to defend that missile.

If a properly trained pilot is not trustworthy enough to handle a gun get him out of the cockpit.

If we have any Ruby ridge personnel on these planes take their guns away from them, they are not trust worthy.

[Paradox]

I agree with the others, its not the best article, but I would like to expound on the explosive decompression myth, which IS a myth. Its a hollywood invented myth. Its cool to show people flying around airplanes when someone shoots a gun, or to watch an Alien get sucked out into space through a tiny hole. Explosive decompression would occur when a significant breach of the cabin. A single bullet hole wouldn't suffice. Lets say a bad bullet hole would be 1/2 inch in diameter. I contend that you could stop up that hole with nothing but your thumb!

Such a hole would have an area of about 0.2 square inches. Now assuming the WORST case, that the cabin pressure is 14.7 psi, and the external pressure is zero (which only occurs in space), then you would have a sucking force of about 3 friggin pounds.

Take some superglue, make a 1/2 inch circle on your thumb, then stick it to a 3 lb. weight, then lift. Killing you? No. A bit sore maybe. Its no big deal.

That scene in Alien Resurrection, while certainly cool looking, was a crock of huey.

[Bobsat]

Everybody should check out the link. I especially like this:

"On the whole, citizens are more successful gun users than are the police. When police shoot, they are 5.5 times more likely to hit an innocent person than are civilian shooters." -- CATO Institute Policy Analysis No. 109, TRUST THE PEOPLE: THE CASE AGAINST GUN CONTROL, by David Kopel

[xm177e2]

MYTH #12 "We don't want the plane to depressurize at 30,000-feet because someone thinks they saw a hijacker." -- Representative Greg Walden

Judging by how some idiots have grounded flights because they saw people praying or they saw an Arab with some confetti... I don't think weapons-free is the answer for airplanes, I think they should be treated like the inside of a prison. But pilots should have access to handguns (or larger firearms) if they so choose.

[Waco]

Reckon the "myths" are courtesy of Greyhound or Amtack?

[mil-vet]

Roger the myths list! Myths is exactly what the gun control fools are all about.

FACT #1: I won't fly until I am allowed, as one trained to carry and (heaven forbid) use a handgun, to carry my weapon on my aircraft of choice!

FACT #2: 911 would never have happened if those passengers qualified to carry (police officers, military, folks with a valid license to carry, etc.), along with the flight crew, had been armed!

FACT #3: We're going entirely the wrong direction by totally disarming everyone who boarsds an aircraft; this just makes 'em easier, softer targets for hijackers! One or two "air marshalls" can be easily overcome by a few hijackers, but not half the passenger list!!