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To: Pelayo
I firmly believe the RCC is the most dangerous to it's body of "faithful".

So what is wrong with Catholics? Do you believe we don't have faith in our Lord too?

If you will note what I said, I didn't say there was anything at all wrong with "Catholics". I did say I believed the RCC was dangerous to the "Faithful".

I believe there countless millions of Catholics in this world who have no idea who the Lord is. They pray to Mary, they pray to various Saints, they pray to statues, they never pray directly to Jesus. What the "Official Church Teaching" is, it is of no matter if the "people" don't have any idea what it is. This is what I believe is dangerous.

I believe those "Catholics" who can sort through all the "extras" and find the way directly to the Lord are o.k. in spite of the misdirection.

You may note some Protestants, as well as Catholics, think I am full of it. So be it.
3,260 posted on 10/27/2001 10:54:58 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE
I believe there countless millions of Catholics in this world who have no idea who the Lord is. They pray to Mary, they pray to various Saints, they pray to statues, they never pray directly to Jesus. What the "Official Church Teaching" is, it is of no matter if the "people" don't have any idea what it is. This is what I believe is dangerous.Z

I think you are jumping at shadows. Catholics pray to other people besides Jesus, but prayer isn't worship. Only God do we [Catholics] worship. And, we do it every day at mass. One of the reason we don't like Protestant faith is that you ain't worshiping Jesus, just praying to Him. We sacrifice ourselves to God and we offer the only worthy sacrifice to Him in the form of His only Son. We love God above all else. Your silly argument that the RCC is bad because some people might not understand it, is true. But, you are missing the point.

3,267 posted on 10/27/2001 11:37:46 AM PDT by Pelayo
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To: OLD REGGIE
I believe there countless millions of Catholics in this world who have no idea who the Lord is. They pray to Mary, they pray to various Saints, they pray to statues, they never pray directly to Jesus. What

Oh Christ almighty, will you get off this "pray to statues" and "pray to Mary" crap! I mean, this is like Jack Chick 101 stuff.

Go ahead, dishonor Mary by not asking her to pray for you and by not calling her blessed (uh, that one's taken right from the Bible). I'm sure Jesus likes us to not give His Mother the respect she deserves.

I believe that Protestantism is harmful to the faith of millions myself. By allowing people to be their own popes and make up their own doctrine as they see fit (i.e., God will bend to my will, and not vice-versa), the further one gets from the Reformation, the worse and worse the beliefs of the followers. Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, Seventh Day Adventism, Moonies, Mormons, the old Worldwide Church of God, Oneness Pentecostalism, Snake-handling Pentecostalism, Jim Jones, Christadelphianism, Swedenborgianism, and Branch Davidianism are all descendants of the Protestant Reformation, and late ones at that. I'm waiting myself for the advbent of a Christian Scientologist movement by the 22nd century, the way things seem to be headed.

The later one gets, the less a connection one has to the Truth. That is why we have the seat of the Pope, that is why we have unchanging truths.

Catholicism has its own offshoots, but all of them are laughed at, if not outright excommunicated or heretical.

You can throw crap like "pray to ceramic statues" and "pray to Mary" but your accusations are false.

3,271 posted on 10/27/2001 11:54:49 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: OLD REGGIE
I believe there countless millions of Catholics in this world who have no idea who the Lord is. They pray to Mary, they pray to various Saints, they pray to statues, they never pray directly to Jesus.

If you knew anything of the Catholic Church you would know how ridiculous your statement is. If they have no idea who the Lord is then they aren't truly Catholic.

Would you consider someone to be a true fundamentalist/protestant/whatever you are if they have no idea who the Lord is? Of course not.

3,278 posted on 10/27/2001 1:03:53 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: OLD REGGIE
I believe those "Catholics" who can sort through all the "extras" and find the way directly to the Lord are o.k. in spite of the misdirection.

WHEW!!!!!!! Glad to know that, if I work hard enough, there's a chance that OLD REGGIE might deem me (grant me?) capable of salvation in the name of Jesus Christ! To think, I was listening to 2000 years of the Faith, when all I had to do was listen to someone out of a Jack Chick comic.

You may note some Protestants, as well as Catholics, think I am full of it. So be it.

How can anyone think that OLD REGGIE could be full of it? I mean, you're POPE OLD REGGIE I, for goodness sake, granted the power to bind and loose all that is on Earth and in Heaven! I owe my salvation to you your Popefulness!
3,282 posted on 10/27/2001 1:18:35 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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