Posted on 10/11/2001 9:39:48 AM PDT by malakhi
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As I said before your last rant, this has nothing to do with what I was discussing. I didn't mention any specific "atrocities" (as you did), nor did I bring up the past. I'm talking about a continuing present condition (it is not new).
Having said this, I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.
I think I may be in agreement with you on this, although I am just now starting to understand it.
I know the argument will be, that there is only one name whereby a man can be saved, that is the man Christ Jesus.
I believe this is being said to us, the ones who read it and believe it, and not to a Muslim or a Buddhist, or someone who would never have the opportunity to read it, but rely on their own Holy writings to show them the way, but of course that has nothing to do with us, since we are now under the salvation plan of Christ.
You are failing to admit what the RC's want us all to believe (as they do), THEY ALONE OWN THE FIRST 1500 YEARS OF CHRISTIANITY. I'm still waiting for them to produce a patent or copyright. I have dealt with them on this issue time and time again (especially when I first started posting). If you go back and read my early posts you will see a lot of this type: "Catholics don't own history!"
Yes apparently it is the only "defense" he can come up with. So far I have seen no denials or coherent refutations of the "fa" word charge. It sure is telling, isn't it?
Ah, Ah, Ah, not so fast. By virtue of disagreeing with you, they are against you. What's that old saying about a man divided against himself - can't stand.. That's truth. Your make believe reality is that it makes any sense. I'm gonna go tell this to my door. At least the noise waves will sink into it.
Kinda reminds me of that scene in Braveheart:
"I demand that you recognize these documents"
"Those documents were lies when you wrote them"
LOL
First, it's a bad idea to base eternal destinations on feelings or what we want. Either you believe God (what is written in the Bible) or you don't. Second, as Jesus told us, there is none that are "good" except God. Now believing that there are many, many people who will be damned because they reject Christ, or fail to place their trust in him, is not politically correct these days. But truth is not P.C. these days.
BigMack
What is it that you are just now starting to understand?
Becky
Becky
pegleg wrote: That's your make believe reality, not truth.
Some of their teachings and writings DO contradict each other...on topics such as Peter being the Rock (NOT), the OT canon (apocrypha), the bodily assumption of Jesus' mother, and her immaculate conception, papal infallibility, and so on. (I have learned this from Geisler's book, Catholics and Evangelicals, Agreements and Differences, just so you know my source.)
I'm interested in seeing what writing by Ignatius you have in mind. At ccel.org I found a bunch of his epistles, but I don't know which one I should read about the eucharist. Let me know, OK?
Why do your words make me weep? They are music to my ears. Blessed Saviour!
JHavard wrote: I think I may be in agreement with you on this, although I am just now starting to understand it.
How can you guys know so much about the Bible (even contending for it) and yet not believe it? (Forgive me if I have jumped to conclusions....please fill me in.)
JMHO, but I think it is best to avoid references to the recent atrocities as comparisons to the positions of those we debate here. If you wish to bring up historical events, fine. But these events are too raw, the situation is ongoing, and we are all on the same side when it comes to fighting the terrorists. Let's not forget that.
"Thin skin" for reacting to the comparison of any of us to terrorists? If one of the Catholics made this sort of accusation against any of you, I would have reacted in exactly the same way. I thought it was over the line. As I said to Havoc, above, we're all on the same side when it comes to defending our nation.
Thanks, Havoc.
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