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Jesus Christ: The Sum and Subtance of Biblical Prophecy
Modern Reformation Magazine ^ | September/October 2001 edition | Kim Riddlebarger

Posted on 10/10/2001 5:20:52 AM PDT by sola gracia

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To: Middle of the Road; Matchett-PI; Jerry_M; RnMomof7; Mark17
you ignorant bastard...

Actually, we are not the ones without a Spiritual Father. We have a Mighty God who has poured out his blood to redeem us; who has Shed his Grace upon us. (Hebrews - you pick the chapter, but try 10:14)

My Lord God Jesus will be in the midst of the saints and he will rejoice over us with His gladness, He will quiet us in His love, and he will rejoice over us with His singing. (Zephaniah 3:17) He will do so with His whole heart.

Again, what do you have that can possibly compare?

61 posted on 10/10/2001 8:08:17 PM PDT by CCWoody
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To: artios
Very well written: I express my feelings of Christ in poetry: Here is one I wrote in 1996:

He Is Eternity

Why does His name live on
when all others are long gone
forgotten but for a passage in history
what is the secret of His sweet mystery?

All who tormented and abused Him
forgotten in historical dim
His followers were few
but they remained true

Would a man hang hinself for a liar
would men suffer persecution for a fraud
would men walk thru fire
except it be for the LORD?

Why was His life so signicant?
He taught but for a few years
three only and yet
His crucifixion brings us to tears

But wait, they are tears of joy
He rose from the grave in three days
taking the keys of death from their keeper
we no longer have to fear the grim reaper

His promise is everlasting life
no fear, no pain, no strife
if we but see and perceive
that He is eternity

Copyright (1999). All Rights Reserved
July 11, 1996

62 posted on 10/10/2001 8:33:06 PM PDT by poet
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To: CCWoody
"you ignorant bastard..."

LOL!!

And they say that the Calvinism/Arminianism debates get "nasty"?

Of course, this "godless infidel" (Middle of the road) has shown us his true colors. The characteristics of unregenerate "flesh" have shown through all the talk of "love" and "peace".

63 posted on 10/11/2001 6:07:58 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Middle of the Road
"Islam is the fastest growing religion."

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. (Jesus, God in the flesh, Matthew 7:13-14)

Satan is the "deceiver of the nations". We are told in Revelation Chapter 20 that those who follow after him are more numerous than the sands of the seashore. I have absolutely no problem with believing that Islam, as well as other abominable cults, is experiencing an explosion of growth.

You still haven't responded to my earlier point. Why is it that Christianity led to the formation of the USA, and Islam leads to the formation of repressive regimes like that found in Afghanistan? Your fruit is rotten.

64 posted on 10/11/2001 6:21:10 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Jerry_M, Midddle of the Road Diaper Head
Here is what I heard:

All muslim governments now and throughout all history are all tyrannical, despotic murderous and oppressive regimes. They murder Jews and Christians and thier chief aim is "peace" through death to all infidels. Islam means everyone else has been murdered - that is the lesson of all history regardless of what the Q'uran says. Muslims teach their children to lay low while in the minority and then rage like a lion and take over when in the majority. That is what they did to Bosnia, Serbia and now America. It is not a religion of peace - it is a religion of death to all who disagree. They lie, cheat, steal and murder in the name of their god - the god of this world - satan.

I am looking for evidence to refute it. So far muslims have not denounced the mass murder of civilians except to say "murdering an innocent is sin" - BUT they do not think Americans are innocent - because they also go one to say why we are guilt of bad foreign policy etc etc.... Middle of the Road diaper head has only seemed to confirm the horrible hypothesis.

65 posted on 10/11/2001 12:44:02 PM PDT by artios
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To: Jerry_M
And they say that the Calvinism/Arminianism debates get "nasty"?

I hear thats more than a rumor *grin*

66 posted on 10/11/2001 6:41:21 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: artios
I had to come back for one last post after listening to The President of the "United" States.

"these people HIGHJACKED a religion"

"Islam is a religion of peace"

"Please my fellow Americans don't use this as an excuse to pick on someone because they look different than you or "have a different religious belief" because that is what makes OUR country great!"(Freepers he was talking to you!!!0

"This is NOT a war on Islam

"Many Muslim leaders have come out against these evil doers"

"jewish and christian women went shopping with the muslim women who were afraid of being attacked"(by Freepers!!!!)You heard everything he said and I could go on and on but I have wasted enough time energy and emotion with you "radicals" I came into this web-site because of my father who belongs and I saw all the blasphemy and misinfomation about Islam so I thought I would shed some light on Islam-I had the best of intentions- You would of done the same thing had it been an attack on Christianity, unfortunately it turned into even more of an attack against me personally and my religion which is what I believe in NOW STRONGER THAN EVER.

I have shared this with two others in your organization privately, but seeing this is my last post I'll share with you all. I am a 31 year old whiteMale married to a christian women with 2 unbelievably gorgeous children. I was born and raised a Christian, went to a Christian school, involved in christian youth groups and programs, preached the gospel "according" to Matthew, mark, luke, and John etc......and in my search for questions I had that my answers were you got to have faith I prayed to God and asked him for answers asked Him for the truth and I was introduced to Islam and three years later I testified that there is NO GOD, but GOD, he has NO partners and nothing is equal to or greater than him and Mohommed is his slave and messenger.

I have studied many religions and have a certain respect for all. Go back and read the posts and tell me how tolerant, respectful, and understanding the "Freerepublic" is.

Funny thing is I stood with you guys across the street from the Vice Presidents house chanting "get out of Chaney's house" I stood in front of The Supreme Court with you the day of the Ruling and I was a Muslim fighting for and representing what was right along with other Jews and Christians. Religion is a tough, personal, and emotional topic, feelings get hurt and it is unfortunate. Now, we disagree on something, and the true reasons why is because of your ignorance and I don't mean that in a bad way you(most Freepers) have no knowledge about true Islam they see what the Washington Post says about it. My Dad is the biggest Post basher especially during the election he would say its a "Communist newspaper" but now everything it says is the gospel(no pun intended!) I keep telling him it is still the same "Communist Paper" I took a screen name Middle of the Road because I knew how far right you guys are (and I'm not that far)and I'm definately not a liberal I wouldn't be allowed to work with my dad if I was! I started making some posts to try to come to some common ground with you people to try and educate and in return got bits and pieces of my statements cut and the bible quoted to me how i along with all my "diaper-headed" "turbin to tight" muslim brothers and sisters are going to hell.

This is a world topic about terrorism not Islam the President that you and I voted for said it several times himself! There is a verse in the Quran that says-Surah 42 8-hopefully i can stop If God had so willed, He could have make them a single people; but He Admits whom He will To His Mercy;And the wrong-doers Will have no protector Nor helper What! Have they taken for worship protectors other than God? but it is God-He is the Protector, and it is He who gives life to the dead:It is He who has powers over all things. Whatever it be wherein Ye differ, the decision Thereof is with God Such is God my lord: In Him I trust, and to Him I turn. He is the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth. To him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth.almost doneThe same religion has He established for you as that Which He enjoined Noah- The which We have sent By inspiration to thee_ And that which We enjoined On Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely that ye should remain steadfast in Religion and make no divisions therein To those who worship other things than God Hard is the way To which thow callest them. God chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself Those who turn to Him,/b>

Who knows how to end this? Thanks for reading it, apologies will be accepted both by personal and public posts. And May God Bless America, Your Families, The Innocent people abroad. May God make it easy to see his signs and get us back to whats important Love of God, Family, Friends, and Neighbors. Peace

67 posted on 10/11/2001 8:07:41 PM PDT by Middle of the Road
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To: Jerry_M; Middle of the Road
Now, it will be far better for you to bow your knee before Him now....

This is otherwise known as the argument from the future; the "Join Us or Die" argument.
It's been used for thousands of years.

68 posted on 10/11/2001 8:16:23 PM PDT by dbbeebs
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To: Middle of the Road
"I have studied many religions and have a certain respect for all"

"Zionist"? "Ignorant bastard"? "Certain respect"?

If you go back and read, you will see that the opening post in this thread deals with the supremacy of Jesus Christ. When you came along and injected that your Islam was on a par with Christianity, there were a number of us here who felt it to be our duty to point out to you that all roads do not lead to God. It was Jesus Himself who stated that He is the only way to God, and we believe Him. You are the one who proved to be disrespectful.

70 posted on 10/12/2001 6:23:36 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Jerry_M
everything that I wrote and thats what you took from it?

You go above and read everything again and see who was disrespectful. If I was I APOLOGIZE to ALL who I disrespected, emotions get involved with religion and mine did get away from me.

This thread started as a "biblical prophecy" and turned into an Islam bashing session way before I posted anything.

It is my hope that others got more out of what I wrote than what Jerry did.

71 posted on 10/12/2001 6:38:41 AM PDT by Middle of the Road
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To: Middle of the Road
"This thread started as a "biblical prophecy" and turned into an Islam bashing session way before I posted anything."

You sir, are a liar. There was no mention of Islam prior to your interjecting it into the conversation. You are the one who has been disrespectful. Are you so stupid as to think that people cannot read the thread and see that this is so?

72 posted on 10/12/2001 6:54:47 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Middle of the Road; CCWoody; RnMomof7; artios; Matchett-PI
Re. your 67. Something does't sound right. You state that you grew up as a Christian, and actually "preached the Gospel" prior to your Islamic enlightenedment. Yet, you showed yourself to be completely ignorant as to what Christians would believe about the nature of Jesus Christ in your earlier posts. You asked whether Jesus had made us, whether He made the rain, etc. If you had been a "christian", even nominally, you would have known that Christians consider Jesus Christ to be God. You would have known that we consider Him to be far more than a prophet. You would have known things that would have resulted in your not being so clueless.

I guess that when you start telling lies, you don't know where to stop.

73 posted on 10/12/2001 7:07:21 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Middle of the Road
All three religeons are based on more or less similar ideas. They were written by desert men who think that they are superior to women. Yet they all like virgins!
74 posted on 10/12/2001 7:17:00 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Middle of the Road
All three religeons are based on more or less similar ideas. They were written by desert men who think that they are superior to women. Yet they all like virgins!
75 posted on 10/12/2001 7:19:16 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Matchett-PI
From youth he had suffered from a kind of hysteria, and this vision seems to have increased his tendency to hallucinations and ecstasy.

There was an intermission of two or three years before the vision reappeared, after which revelations came rapidly.
This sounds familiar. I've read about this sort of thing before.
76 posted on 10/12/2001 7:32:09 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Middle of the Road;Jerry_M; CCWoody; artios; Matchett-PI
You were the first to raise Islam..post #10..very early in what may have been an interesting Christian discussion.

We live in America where the cry of victimhood is heard through out the land..but in this case the proof is right here for all that care to look..you raised Islam just looking for a fight.To say otherwise is a lie and you know it.

You got what you wanted..but in the process showed a side of Islam that is not pretty...You started with a lie,and then another lie,and then anger, then rebukes..and then returned to the lie..

You have a right to worship as you please,but please do not expect to find ANY common ground with the followers of Jesus Christ,there is NONE

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Our Spiritual differences lead to Christians being stoned to death in Muslim countries,not just a few sharp words..we have no Spiritual fellowship, Middle..not now not ever!

77 posted on 10/12/2001 8:02:44 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Middle of the Road LIAR since October 9th, 2001

78 posted on 10/12/2001 8:07:39 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: Jerry_M
LIAR since October 9th, 2001

My guess is it started before that *grin*

79 posted on 10/12/2001 8:11:54 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: philosofy123
You've got to quit spewing your crap and then running away. You did that on the "Does God exist" thread too. You continue this crap and I'll suggest to the powers that be, that you be sent to the bench
80 posted on 10/12/2001 8:25:57 AM PDT by lockeliberty
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