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Smoker's saliva a 'cocktail of chemicals'
Yahoo ^ | 06/02/04 | Reuters

Posted on 06/02/2004 4:43:14 AM PDT by Colosis

LONDON (Reuters) - Smoking destroys protective molecules in saliva and transforms it into a dangerous cocktail of chemicals that increases the risk of mouth cancer, scientists say.

"Cigarette smoke is not only damaging on its own, it can turn the body against itself," said Dr Rafi Nagler, of the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa, Israel.

Saliva contains antioxidants, molecules that normally protect the body against cancer, but Nagler and his colleagues have discovered that cigarette smoke destroys the molecules and turns saliva into a dangerous compound.

"Our study shows that once exposed to cigarette smoke, our normally healthy saliva not only loses its beneficial qualities but it turns traitor and actually aids in destroying the cells of the mouth and oral cavity," he added.

In research reported in the British Journal of Cancer on Wednesday, Nagler and his team studied the impact of cigarette smoke on cancerous cells in the laboratory.

Half of the cells were exposed to saliva exposed to cigarette smoke and the other half just to the smoke. Cells exposed to the saliva mixture had more damage and it increased along with the time of exposure.

"Most people will find it very shocking that the mixture of saliva and smoke is actually more lethal to cells in the mouth than cigarette smoke alone," Nagler added in a statement.

Smoking and drinking are the leading causes of head and neck or oral cancers, which includes cancer of the lip, mouth, tongue, gums, larynx and pharynx. Nearly 400,000 new cases of the illness are diagnosed worldwide each year with the majority in developing countries. The five-year survival rates are less than 50 percent.

Nagler and his colleagues believe the research could open up new avenues to develop better treatments to prevent oral cancer.

"This insight into how mouth cancer can develop offers more reasons for smokers to try and quit," said Jean King, of Cancer Research UK, which publishes the journal. "People know the link with lung cancer and this research adds compelling evidence about the damage smoking can do to the mouth."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: health; pufflist; smokers; smoking; smokingbans
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To: CyberCowboy777
When I smoked I did not spend my time thinking about my next smoke. I am not sure where you get this idea,

what gives me that idea is the absolute panic by smokers whenever another ban on smoking occurs. They certainly are worried that they will not be able to have a cigarette in the local restaurant. If not, they wouldn't care about the bans and be happy to wait one lousy hour in order to smoke.

801 posted on 06/04/2004 10:05:13 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Colosis
[ Smoker's saliva a 'cocktail of chemicals' ]

Is that anything like the air at a Libertarian Fund raiser(cocktail of chemicals).?.

802 posted on 06/04/2004 10:09:48 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: VRWC_minion
It is not about the 1 lousy hour, it is about the rights of a property owner.

Why would 1 lousy hour of smoke in a restaurant you choose to enter make you willing to take property rights?
803 posted on 06/04/2004 11:22:42 AM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: cinFLA; All; Judith Anne; Gabz; tpaine; Xenalyte; CSM; Liberal Classic
Wow CinFLA, over TWO HUNDRED POSTS on this thread alone over less than 48 hour period.

Who is paying you to spam? Your posts are more than 25% of this entire thread and that is a LOT considering it is over 800 posts now.

What is your anti-freedom agenda and who is bankrolling it?

804 posted on 06/04/2004 12:22:50 PM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp

Holy cat! I'm just wondering if he's off today, or if the boss is cool with that much FR.


805 posted on 06/04/2004 12:35:03 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Cedar lattice . . . works every time.)
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To: cinFLA
1) They only used mortality data, not illnesses, thus they can only speak to mortality rates.

2) When they say there is a 20% risk factor for SHS relate coronary disease they really mean that there is a 20% risk factor for SHS related coronary deaths.

Thus they are concluding that SHS kills.

OK, so they only used mortality rates. Doesn't that mean the death rate?

And then YOU decide that when they say a 20% risk factor for coronary heart disease they actually MEAN a 20% risk factor for coronary heart disease DEATH rates.

I believe it said there MAY BE a link between SHS and 20% risk factor in coronary heart disease.
Nothing about a 20% risk factor in coronary heart disease DEATH rates.

You lie and try to make everyone believe it.

There is a PROVEN risk factor involved when a person smokes

I have seen very few studies PROVING a risk factor from SHS and most of those were cherry picked metastudies that lacked firm scientific doctrine.

806 posted on 06/04/2004 12:36:18 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Xenalyte

Aah,leave the poor guy alone.

It's the weekend and he's out looking for a Freeperdopehead woman to spend it with.


807 posted on 06/04/2004 12:47:58 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Just another Joe

JaJ........this is just what I was saying earlier.

This study looks at disease - not death.

it's pretty hard to do a study regarding the DEATH of anyone, when the study is contacting LIVE people.

Even if the study had confirmed the previously thought 30% increased risk of coronary heart disease, it would remain statistically insignificant for either contracting the disease or death caused by the disease. Statistical significance doesn't not occur until there is at least a 100% increase in the relative risk (RR 2.00) but preferably 200% (RR 3.00) without any finding falling below parity (RR 1.00).

Nearly every finding of this study falls below parity and few if any reach the 2.00RR to make it mildly significant.

Anyone believing the Cancer Society and the rest of the alphabet cartel stopped funding this study for any reason other than the numbers were not meeting their pre-determined expectations is fooling no one but themselves.

A 40 year study that get's defunded at 38 years because the funders disagree with the appearing outcome, should not be discounted just because of the funding source of the final 2 years that show results consistency with the rest of the finding.


808 posted on 06/04/2004 1:14:50 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
It is not about the 1 lousy hour, it is about the rights of a property owner.

The issue wouldn't even come up if the smoker could wait.

809 posted on 06/04/2004 1:15:45 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
Lame excuse for taking property rights.
810 posted on 06/04/2004 1:18:37 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: CyberCowboy777
I agree about private property rights. The gov't should not take them without compensation.

However, you changed the subject. The original point was smokers are preoccupied with their next cigarette and panic at the thought or mere suggestion they may not be able to smoke whenever the urge strikes.

811 posted on 06/04/2004 1:29:41 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
I contested your assumption that all smokers panic at the thought or mere suggestion they may not be able to smoke whenever the urge strikes.

Your reasoning for that failed logic was that they would not care about the restaurant issue otherwise, which is course is simply not true.

The fact that many nonsmokers are against the attack on private property should make this point clear.
812 posted on 06/04/2004 1:34:17 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: VRWC_minion
"The original point was smokers are preoccupied with their next cigarette and panic at the thought or mere suggestion they may not be able to smoke whenever the urge strikes."

Balderdash! Your original point was that smokers were worshipping cigarettes instead of God. You made it several times. I notice you've dropped that, since your "I'm speaking for the Holy Spirit in YOUR life" badge got yanked.

813 posted on 06/04/2004 1:40:52 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: CyberCowboy777
The fact that many nonsmokers are against the attack on private property should make this point clear.>Maybe you are right, they are not addicted and just because they need numerous cigarette breaks while working when it comes to dinner out they really don't think about a cigarette. In fact they only care about property rights and not about having their next cigarette. But don't you think its a bit odd that this is the only property right issue smokers as a group protest ?
814 posted on 06/04/2004 1:42:09 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion

Odd? When it's aimed directly at them? If people were shooting bullets at smokers instead of regulations, you'd expect them to notice and take exception, but since it's only regulations, they should ignore it?

When it mentions SMOKERS specifically, it's odd that they notice? Where are you from? Pluto, or the other one?


815 posted on 06/04/2004 1:44:42 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Judith Anne
Balderdash! Your original point was that smokers were worshipping cigarettes instead of God

This is a fact. I didn't withdraw my comments. Smokers carry them everywhere, they give their first fruits toward purchasing them, they are continually in contact with their cigarettes, the kiss them all day long, when they cannot have one they long for the moment they can reconnect with one, they even lay their lives down for it. In short, God would love it if we all gave half the attention to him that smokers give to tobacco.

816 posted on 06/04/2004 1:45:48 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Judith Anne
Odd? When it's aimed directly at them?

But I thought that smokers were concerned ONLY because of the property rights. If you make the case that they are concerned because of the smoking then you make my case. Its aimed at the ability of smokers to smoke during the lousy hour that they are in the restaurant. If they could wait comfortably, they wouldn't care and it wouldn't threaten them.

817 posted on 06/04/2004 1:48:45 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion

You, sir, are beyond description. Now scurry off and tell God how much better YOU are, than smokers. I'm sure He'll want to pat you on the head.


818 posted on 06/04/2004 1:49:38 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: VRWC_minion

I can wait comfortably. I smoke my more or less five cigarettes each day, and I will NEVER quit, because sanctimonious prigs like you exist.

If your aim is to convict the hearts of smokers and get them to change their ways, then YOU'd better change YOURS. In other words, get the beam out of your own eye, first. We can all see it, funny YOU can't.


819 posted on 06/04/2004 1:53:28 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Judith Anne
Now scurry off and tell God how much better YOU are, than smokers

None of us are worthy in God's eyes. However, Jesus changes us and makes us want to become more like Him every day. God loves us and he does not want us to harm our bodies and he does not want us to be addicted. He gave his Son so that we can be free from the bondage of sin. Smokers don't need to stay slaves of cigarettes, if they let Jesus into their hearts he will remove from them the need to smoke and set them free. For some this can take time, for some he will heal them immediately.

It only requires asking God.

820 posted on 06/04/2004 1:54:06 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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