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Smoker's saliva a 'cocktail of chemicals'
Yahoo ^ | 06/02/04 | Reuters

Posted on 06/02/2004 4:43:14 AM PDT by Colosis

LONDON (Reuters) - Smoking destroys protective molecules in saliva and transforms it into a dangerous cocktail of chemicals that increases the risk of mouth cancer, scientists say.

"Cigarette smoke is not only damaging on its own, it can turn the body against itself," said Dr Rafi Nagler, of the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa, Israel.

Saliva contains antioxidants, molecules that normally protect the body against cancer, but Nagler and his colleagues have discovered that cigarette smoke destroys the molecules and turns saliva into a dangerous compound.

"Our study shows that once exposed to cigarette smoke, our normally healthy saliva not only loses its beneficial qualities but it turns traitor and actually aids in destroying the cells of the mouth and oral cavity," he added.

In research reported in the British Journal of Cancer on Wednesday, Nagler and his team studied the impact of cigarette smoke on cancerous cells in the laboratory.

Half of the cells were exposed to saliva exposed to cigarette smoke and the other half just to the smoke. Cells exposed to the saliva mixture had more damage and it increased along with the time of exposure.

"Most people will find it very shocking that the mixture of saliva and smoke is actually more lethal to cells in the mouth than cigarette smoke alone," Nagler added in a statement.

Smoking and drinking are the leading causes of head and neck or oral cancers, which includes cancer of the lip, mouth, tongue, gums, larynx and pharynx. Nearly 400,000 new cases of the illness are diagnosed worldwide each year with the majority in developing countries. The five-year survival rates are less than 50 percent.

Nagler and his colleagues believe the research could open up new avenues to develop better treatments to prevent oral cancer.

"This insight into how mouth cancer can develop offers more reasons for smokers to try and quit," said Jean King, of Cancer Research UK, which publishes the journal. "People know the link with lung cancer and this research adds compelling evidence about the damage smoking can do to the mouth."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: health; pufflist; smokers; smoking; smokingbans
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To: CSM
It isn't about health, it is about controlling others to your preferances. Fascism, pure and simple.

We've tried to stay on the health issues inspite of numerous attempts to take us away from that discussion.

301 posted on 06/02/2004 1:43:28 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA

In the interest of the new government programs aimed at reducing the occurance of Alzheimers, we must pass legislation requiring people to smoke. You supportive?


302 posted on 06/02/2004 1:45:44 PM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: cinFLA
So does every other Vietnam veteran.

Who were you with, jackboot?

303 posted on 06/02/2004 1:46:05 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: cinFLA

So, which do you think is more unhealthy, obesity, or smoking?

Which do you kills more people? Which has more diseases related to it, obesity, or smoking? Which is responsible for more heart disease, obesity, or smoking? Which should be more regulated by the FDA, addiction to tobacco, or obese parents raising obese children? Which do you think causes more long-term disability, obesity or smoking?

Those are smoking related health questions.....


304 posted on 06/02/2004 1:47:32 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: CyberCowboy777
I dismiss the value of a medal to the discussion at all.

You think that veterans should not have more say in veterans affairs than non-veterans?

305 posted on 06/02/2004 1:47:38 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: CSM
So you are willing to work to prove others wrong instead of proving your own claims to be right? Typical.

Ducking the challenge. I am not surprised.

306 posted on 06/02/2004 1:49:04 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: CSM; cinFLA

Seems that would be the consistent position, were consistency even remotely possible.


307 posted on 06/02/2004 1:49:13 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: CSM
It could be any lung and the poster of the picture never provided anything to prove it wasn't a coal miner's lung. I don't have to prove it's from a coal miner, they have to prove it wasn't.

Bravo, Bravo, my friend!!!!

It is a point most of the gnatzies refuse to accept. When they choose to behave as prosecutor, judge and, jury they forget one aspect of the process........if they make the accusation, they need to prove it, not the other way around.

When called on it, one of the Military Reserve Units in Delaware actually did stop lying to children. they used a pig's lung that had been injected with a whole mess of stuff and claimed it was the lung of a human smoker.

I have nothing against honest work to keep children from starting smoking or even encouraging adults to stop --- but the operative word is HONEST. I will not tolerate twisting of science or out right lies.

308 posted on 06/02/2004 1:50:44 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: cinFLA

Most of the attempts to change the subject were YOURS, oh mighty one who regulates the threads.

Hey! Anybody want to change the subject, and talk about how their memorial day went? Let's see if the thug can stop us.

I'll start! The whole family came, all the grandkids. Incidently, all the adults smoke. We had a grand time here in the country, some wonderful meals and late night talks together. My son didn't get a VSM because he served in Korea, but he did get a lot of medals, and some of them he can't tell me about...and we did have some family who couldn't make it because they're in Iraq.

How bout y'all? ;-D


309 posted on 06/02/2004 1:51:01 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: bikepacker67
"Public" is the operative word - private property is what we are discussing.

Your access to property via the right of the property owner to allow you access does not invalidate the right of the property owner define the access.

I can invite you to my house to burn some burgers and not hand over my right to define to parameters of your visit. I can disallow or allow many things, up to and including your privilege to smoke on my property.

My father, an ex-smoker, does not allow smoking anywhere on his 8 acres. That is his right as a private property owner, whether he allows "public" access to that property or not.

310 posted on 06/02/2004 1:51:26 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: Judith Anne
So, which do you think is more unhealthy, obesity, or smoking? Which do you kills more people? Which has more diseases related to it, obesity, or smoking? Which is responsible for more heart disease, obesity, or smoking? Which should be more regulated by the FDA, addiction to tobacco, or obese parents raising obese children? Which do you think causes more long-term disability, obesity or smoking?

Obesity is a condition; smoking is an activity.

311 posted on 06/02/2004 1:51:39 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Judith Anne
You're doomed to die too

But seeing that I'm not a smoker, I'll likely live longer than a smoker.

It must be tough knowing that even though smoking doesn't cause heart disease, cancer or emphysema that the poor smoker is going to die earlier than his nico-nazi neighbors. What an unfair world to be born into.

We know quiting won't increase his lifespan, the poor slob. And, there really is no point in coming up with any cures for the diseases that plague smokers, the evidence of cures won't be conclusive because it will only be based on statistics. What a poor bunch.

312 posted on 06/02/2004 1:52:00 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Judith Anne

I passed out cigarettes to orphans, because I'm addicted.


313 posted on 06/02/2004 1:52:16 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Gabz
When called on it, one of the Military Reserve Units in Delaware actually did stop lying to children. they used a pig's lung that had been injected with a whole mess of stuff and claimed it was the lung of a human smoker.

Which unit was this. They should be outed!

314 posted on 06/02/2004 1:53:27 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
I am willing to listen and respond, but I prefer to do that with those committed to the same.

So can I expect all my post to you in this debate to be used in manipulative ribbing or can I expect the point to be debated?
315 posted on 06/02/2004 1:55:48 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: cinFLA
Obesity is a condition; smoking is an activity.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Now, if that's your general reasoning level, I have to congratulate you on staying alive as long as you have. I honestly thought, as a nurse, that being that stupid was mostly fatal.

316 posted on 06/02/2004 1:56:11 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: VRWC_minion
But seeing that I'm not a smoker, I'll likely live longer than a smoker.

Is that how you make your life choices? By what will lengthen or shorten your life? If not, why single out this activity particularly?

317 posted on 06/02/2004 1:57:27 PM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem..)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Gosh, we should have done that...but we were too busy exposing the grandkids to barbecue and second hand smoke...well, maybe next year...;-D


318 posted on 06/02/2004 1:57:28 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: VRWC_minion

"But seeing that I'm not a smoker, I'll likely live longer than a smoker."

He says just before getting hit by a bus.


319 posted on 06/02/2004 1:57:39 PM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: CyberCowboy777

See your post below and think whether or not it invites debate...

LOL - that has to be the most ironic thing I have read in awhile. LOL!

320 posted on 06/02/2004 1:58:15 PM PDT by cinFLA
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