[SheLion]

"There's an uprising. That's what I'm feeling out there,"

[SheLion]

[Duke Nukum]

They can take your smokes but they can never take your freedom.

[JimVT]

Dammit...we are being overrun by Big Brotherism.

Same crap here in Burlington, Vermont.

I quit smoking 10 years ago and always get a smile when I see cartons of cigs are now almost $40 when I remember getting a carton of Luckies and Pall Malls for $1 each on Okinawa in the 50s.

But if a joint gets too smoky for me I go somewhere else!

"joint" meaning bar-restaraunt, of course!

[BluSky]

Light bulb 'OFF'.

Light bulb 'ON'.

Hmmm . . . seems social engineering IS a failure.

[proxy_user]

This raises an interesting issue.

Typically, the special-interest group is well-organized, and the opposition diffuse.

Now what will happen if both the pro-smoking and anti-smoking groups are well organized?

[AD from SpringBay]

"Seventy percent of people in the city of Madison don't smoke, and the City Council was just representing what many of our constituents want," she said.

By this logic, will they soon outlaw homosexuality and begin instituting public prayer in their schools?

[The kings dead]

believes most people support the ban. "Seventy percent of people in the city of Madison don't smoke

I'm a nonsmoker who thinks government has no business telling people what they may allow on their own property (so long as it stays confined to their property, as tobacco smoke in any significant concentration does).

[lewislynn]

Others, meanwhile, are concerned about other problems, such as cigarette butts - once left inside bars, instead being dropped on the sidewalk and running into the city's lakes.

Polluting the air wasn't good enough for mindless smokers, now you're gonna pollute the drinking water with your cigarette butts.

Do you smokers also throw your trash out the windows?

[Blood of Tyrants]

It is through intimidation of a few that they steal power. Here is an old idea but a good one; civil disobedience. If all the tavern and bar owners got together and simply ignored the law, there is literally nothing they could do about it.

[nothingnew]

"Seventy percent of people in the city of Madison don't smoke, and the City Council was just representing what many of our constituents want," she said.

This is why the framers created a republic, not a democracy.

The ban exempts private clubs; retail tobacco stores; up to 25 percent of rooms in bed and breakfasts, motels and hotels; and until Jan. 2, 2006, existing separately ventilated smoking rooms.

This is why appeasement does not work.

Civil disobedience is the only way to fight back, and this would include the IRS and the ludicrous taxation in this country.

FMCDH